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Free mode; Will it give a free mode?
Topic Started: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:44 pm (1,777 Views)
PowerfulGuanPing
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I don't know if it'll give a free mode.
I hope so because there i can train and have fun if anyone knows something write it.
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It's already been confirmed that Conquest Mode has replaced Free Mode. It is similar to Free Mode, you can play the Story Mode battles and gaiden stages from DW4 will be making a return in this mode. Also, there are some what-if stages. Ultimately, Conquest Mode is Free Mode + many other awesome features!

Hope this answers your question!
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No free mode ?!

This game is officially worse than DW6
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Hmm, it's just the name that changes... with more content. :mellow:
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Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:44 pm
No free mode ?!

This game is officially worse than DW6
1. Limited stages
2. Clones
3. Limited Musuos
4. 7 Cut Characters

Those four features were the ones most complained about in the previous installment, the one you think is better than this one. Now, DW7:

1. No Free Mode
2. Same S-string and charge attack; no clones
3. 15 new characters including Guan Suo
4. 20-25 stages per Kingdom Mode
5. Good voices
6. Jin: New Kingdom
7. Extended after Wu Zhang Plains

So, you still think DW6 was better than this game! Come on, you're either in a fit right now or you just downright can't judge, because no one can say that this game is worse than the one preceding it! Honestly, think before you post! People who keep saying this really annoy me!
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Since everybody ignored my post from a couple of hours ago in the DW7 thread, I'll post it here and hope for a response.

Xiuzhao
 
Frayling0
Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:13 pm
NEW INFO REGARDING CONQUEST/FREE MODE

I have outright asked Chin whether Kingdom Mode stages would be playable in Conquest Mode, because the rage over this is frustrating me.

His exact response was:

"The map should be but the story I don't think so."

So basically as we thought, no cut scenes, but who f'ing cares, the story mode battles will be playable on Conquest Mode! It is basically Free Mode +!
You think story = cut scenes? :hmmm:

Same map but different story is not what I think of when I hear Free Mode. It sounds just like Xtreme Mode of games past; familiar maps with random officers scattered all over the map. So yeah, I'm still going to operate under the assumption that there is no classic Free Mode in this game.

If you really want to clear the air over this and bug Insp. Chin some more, ask him whether the same officers appear in Conquest Mode just as they do in Kingdom Mode. A clear answer to that will shut me up.
Edited by Xiuzhao, Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:02 pm.
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If everybody ignored your post on the main thread, XiuZhao, then I doubt anyone will answer it here! That place has a lot more people so I don't think posting it here will help.

And I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but if you need the answers and you have a facebook, then ask Chin yourself! Don't see the harm in it.
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Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:50 pm
Pandemonium
Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:44 pm
No free mode ?!

This game is officially worse than DW6
1. Limited stages
2. Clones
3. Limited Musuos
4. 7 Cut Characters

Those four features were the ones most complained about in the previous installment, the one you think is better than this one. Now, DW7:

1. No Free Mode
2. Same S-string and charge attack; no clones
3. 15 new characters including Guan Suo
4. 20-25 stages per Kingdom Mode
5. Good voices
6. Jin: New Kingdom
7. Extended after Wu Zhang Plains

So, you still think DW6 was better than this game! Come on, you're either in a fit right now or you just downright can't judge, because no one can say that this game is worse than the one preceding it! Honestly, think before you post! People who keep saying this really annoy me!
Lol, good voices... *looks at half the Shu Cast and Zhong Hui* Yeah... you can say that >.>

Everyone in DW6 had a decent voice that matched their character, except a few... but more than DW7 does.
Edited by YumichiHeart, Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:55 pm.
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Free Mode is still in it's just been merged with Destiny Mode so you can do what if scenarios and level up characters together at once.

A little advancement never hurt anybody ;)
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Remember how in the WO series when you completed a faction's Story Mode you could replay any of the stages with any characters? I have a sneaking suspicion that will happen here too, thus combining Musou Mode and Free Mode. If that's the case, there's no need for Free Mode at all.
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:02 pm
Remember how in the WO series when you completed a faction's Story Mode you could replay any of the stages with any characters? I have a sneaking suspicion that will happen here too, thus combining Musou Mode and Free Mode. If that's the case, there's no need for Free Mode at all.
This.

I think they will opt for this system.
If so, we do not need the Free Mode.
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Conquest seems to be an enhanced Free Mode. I'll reserve judgement until we have a more in-depth explanation of Conquest.
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Xiuzhao
Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:01 pm
Since everybody ignored my post from a couple of hours ago in the DW7 thread, I'll post it here and hope for a response.

Xiuzhao
 
Frayling0
Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:13 pm
NEW INFO REGARDING CONQUEST/FREE MODE

I have outright asked Chin whether Kingdom Mode stages would be playable in Conquest Mode, because the rage over this is frustrating me.

His exact response was:

"The map should be but the story I don't think so."

So basically as we thought, no cut scenes, but who f'ing cares, the story mode battles will be playable on Conquest Mode! It is basically Free Mode +!
You think story = cut scenes? :hmmm:

Same map but different story is not what I think of when I hear Free Mode. It sounds just like Xtreme Mode of games past; familiar maps with random officers scattered all over the map. So yeah, I'm still going to operate under the assumption that there is no classic Free Mode in this game.

If you really want to clear the air over this and bug Insp. Chin some more, ask him whether the same officers appear in Conquest Mode just as they do in Kingdom Mode. A clear answer to that will shut me up.
Stop whining, did you ever consider asking him yourself? I have found out quite a few things for this forum, but people like you demand detail and that isn't always possible pre-game release. Chin has answered some of my questions, and I actually did ask the one you want answered - but he chose not to reply to it. Clearly it's something we're not going to find out much more about.
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If I can't make some fictional scenarios (simple example I used before: Lu Bu in YTR, Yellow Turban side) like in free mode, I won't be very happy and definitely will not be listening to anyone who claims conqest mode is a better version of free mode.

Also, I don't think story mode battles are going to be replayable with any character, haven't they already confirmed that in the story mode you can only play the battles with a pre-set character?

Free mode isn't just about playing any battle, it's about playing any battle on any side. And it's being able to play them whenever you want, without having to play several hours to get to each battle (or having to do that for each character seperately, for that matter).
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:30 pm
Xiuzhao
Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:01 pm
Since everybody ignored my post from a couple of hours ago in the DW7 thread, I'll post it here and hope for a response.

Xiuzhao
 
Frayling0
Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:13 pm
NEW INFO REGARDING CONQUEST/FREE MODE

I have outright asked Chin whether Kingdom Mode stages would be playable in Conquest Mode, because the rage over this is frustrating me.

His exact response was:

"The map should be but the story I don't think so."

So basically as we thought, no cut scenes, but who f'ing cares, the story mode battles will be playable on Conquest Mode! It is basically Free Mode +!
You think story = cut scenes? :hmmm:

Same map but different story is not what I think of when I hear Free Mode. It sounds just like Xtreme Mode of games past; familiar maps with random officers scattered all over the map. So yeah, I'm still going to operate under the assumption that there is no classic Free Mode in this game.

If you really want to clear the air over this and bug Insp. Chin some more, ask him whether the same officers appear in Conquest Mode just as they do in Kingdom Mode. A clear answer to that will shut me up.
Stop whining, did you ever consider asking him yourself? I have found out quite a few things for this forum, but people like you demand detail and that isn't always possible pre-game release. Chin has answered some of my questions, and I actually did ask the one you want answered - but he chose not to reply to it. Clearly it's something we're not going to find out much more about.
Whining? Oh pleeeeeease show me how and where I whined so I may suck up to the ever righteous Koei like everyone else. And I certainly don't demand detail as you say; that was the first time I have ever suggested (not demanded) a question for someone like Insp. Chin, and seeing as the topic at the time was Conquest Mode vs Free Mode, I think I was perfectly within my right to bring up a valid point such as that.

And do you know why he didn't answer you if and when you asked that particular question? Because the answer is probably no, and it's policy to ignore questions that will upset fans. Either that or he just forgot.

So yes, I am still operating under the assumption that there is no classic Free Mode. And the funny thing is, if I'm wrong, which I hope I am, I get a lovely surprise upon opening up Conquest Mode; but if everyone else is wrong, the most important factor in Dynasty Warriors' replay value is suddenly swept from under their collective feet.
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I respect you Xiuzhao since your opinions are usually very well written, but I'm going to be sitting across the table from you on this one.

I believe even if Story Mode's missions are missing from Conquest Mode, Conquest Mode's missions will provide a lot of replayability in and of themselves. I'm also one to think that Koei will in no way throw away a chance for easy content and replayability (they'd be complete idiots if they did pass it up).

I can see your requirement for truth, and your wanting to squash rumors until such truth emerges though, but sadly most people on this forum are going to spread every little thing they hear whether its true or not.

I hope (and believe) Story Mode's missions will find their way into Free Mode minus the Story bits, if they don't it'll really suck but it won't stop me from buying the game.
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:25 pm
I respect you Xiuzhao since your opinions are usually very well written, but I'm going to be sitting across the table from you on this one.
Thank you; with such a courteous response I always try and reply in kind. :wave:

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I believe even if Story Mode's missions are missing from Conquest Mode, Conquest Mode's missions will provide a lot of replayability in and of themselves. I'm also one to think that Koei will in no way throw away a chance for easy content and replayability (they'd be complete idiots if they did pass it up).
On the first point, undoubtedly yes. The free roam aspect adds heaps of replay value. It does sound quite a lot like Xtreme Mode and Destiny Mode from pre-DW6, the replay value of which I found were quite hindered by bad design and attention to detail. I am holding out for Koei learning their lessons from past games though when it comes to such modes. I still maintain that Free Mode was always the biggest factor when it came to replay value, in my experience at least.

As for your second point, well, I wouldn't ever put it past Koei; although I do think they're putting more effort and consideration into this game than they have for years.

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I hope (and believe) Story Mode's missions will find their way into Free Mode minus the Story bits, if they don't it'll really suck but it won't stop me from buying the game.
Pretty much the same for me, but several things are making me inclined to wait for it to come down in price before I buy it. I'll wait a couple more weeks before I fully decide on that though.
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:54 pm
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Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:50 pm
Pandemonium
Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:44 pm
No free mode ?!

This game is officially worse than DW6
1. Limited stages
2. Clones
3. Limited Musuos
4. 7 Cut Characters

Those four features were the ones most complained about in the previous installment, the one you think is better than this one. Now, DW7:

1. No Free Mode
2. Same S-string and charge attack; no clones
3. 15 new characters including Guan Suo
4. 20-25 stages per Kingdom Mode
5. Good voices
6. Jin: New Kingdom
7. Extended after Wu Zhang Plains

So, you still think DW6 was better than this game! Come on, you're either in a fit right now or you just downright can't judge, because no one can say that this game is worse than the one preceding it! Honestly, think before you post! People who keep saying this really annoy me!
Lol, good voices... *looks at half the Shu Cast and Zhong Hui* Yeah... you can say that >.>

Everyone in DW6 had a decent voice that matched their character, except a few... but more than DW7 does.
well, considering this game has a lot more characters, I bet it'd be relly hard for them to find a good voice actor for each characater, so by standards, I think this game's voices are better than DW6's. That's just my opinion though. I was just trying to prove my point that this game is a lot better than the previous one anyway!
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:43 pm
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:54 pm
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Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:50 pm
Pandemonium
Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:44 pm
No free mode ?!

This game is officially worse than DW6
1. Limited stages
2. Clones
3. Limited Musuos
4. 7 Cut Characters

Those four features were the ones most complained about in the previous installment, the one you think is better than this one. Now, DW7:

1. No Free Mode
2. Same S-string and charge attack; no clones
3. 15 new characters including Guan Suo
4. 20-25 stages per Kingdom Mode
5. Good voices
6. Jin: New Kingdom
7. Extended after Wu Zhang Plains

So, you still think DW6 was better than this game! Come on, you're either in a fit right now or you just downright can't judge, because no one can say that this game is worse than the one preceding it! Honestly, think before you post! People who keep saying this really annoy me!
Lol, good voices... *looks at half the Shu Cast and Zhong Hui* Yeah... you can say that >.>

Everyone in DW6 had a decent voice that matched their character, except a few... but more than DW7 does.
well, considering this game has a lot more characters, I bet it'd be relly hard for them to find a good voice actor for each characater, so by standards, I think this game's voices are better than DW6's. That's just my opinion though. I was just trying to prove my point that this game is a lot better than the previous one anyway!
Well, that's your opinion. I love the pre-6 games and also enjoyed 6 (though not as much). I do consider free mode to be and important aspect of the games and if we lose the basis of it, then it will hurt this game a lot for me. It may not be such an important aspect for you, but it does make me question the quality of 7. I'll need more info before I can make a decision though.
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Ok I have to ask a question, since I may be misleaded here.

Free Mode was nice in past Dynasty Warriors, but I hardly played it, and when I did it was after I beat the game, and not that often.

In contrast to this I NEVER played free mode in Samurai Warriors. Why? I find that if you can go to story mode and select one of an individuals stages at any time, its much more fun having a unique battle to their story than replaying a generic version of a map which I've already played with other characters. So for "replay value" in Samurai Warriors I would just go back and play through story mode levels.

Here's what I'm getting at: some people seem to be operating under the suspicion that we can choose which story mode stages to play after we've beaten the story mode once in kingdom mode.

HOWEVER if this notion is incorrect its also a huge sign for free mode, if its not incorporated into conquest mode.

The WO system operates under the function that you can play any stage once you beat it, and so does the SW series. But not ONCE has that been in DW.

My point being it is impossible that story mode will incorporate a free mode function, unless they deviate from the norm with story mode.

My question though is: Why is free mode so important, if we have conquest mode anyways?
Edited by Cereal Killer, Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:04 am.
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I fail to see logic in some people.

Second post, one guy explains: "Conquest mode is free mode, except with more features."

Third post says: NO FREE MODE!?!?!?!?? SUXORS!!

Basically, Conquest mode will be played somewhat similar to old musou modes, where you go through the timeline with your characters' events. As you play those levels, they'll be available to be at any time with any character.

OH GEEE THAT SOUNDS LIKE A FAMILIAR SETUP!

If you want to complain, at least know what you're talking about first.
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My question though is: Why is free mode so important, if we have conquest mode anyways?
Because we don't know whether the battles in Conquest Mode will play out like they do in Kingdom Mode, like they did in the Free Mode of old. We know they're going to be the same maps as Kingdom Mode, but the key is whether they're going to have the same sequence of events.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:18 am
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:03 am
My question though is: Why is free mode so important, if we have conquest mode anyways?
Because we don't know whether the battles in Conquest Mode will play out like they do in Kingdom Mode, like they did in the Free Mode of old. We know they're going to be the same maps as Kingdom Mode, but the key is whether they're going to have the same sequence of events.
Do you really think they're going to drastically change the main stages? I mean I don't think they're going to take a standard DW badass approach to WZP in Kingdom Mode and then in conquest mode change it up to "Lol Jiang Wei and Sima Yi, we're going to throw in some random npc's on the same map and call it Wu Zhang Plains." I mean yeah, you wont be getting the character specific events, but that's a fault created by Kingdom mode itself, seeing as free mode was just the generic version of the battle with the generic events and never had anything character specific anyways.
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I mean I don't think they're going to take a standard DW badass approach to WZP in Kingdom Mode and then in conquest mode change it up to "Lol Jiang Wei and Sima Yi, we're going to throw in some random npc's on the same map and call it Wu Zhang Plains."
That's the thing though, they did that in previous games with Xtreme Mode for example; and honestly I expect them to do it again.

And it's those generic events in Free Mode that you talked about that I'm worried won't be included. We all think it would be stupid of Koei not to include those battles in Conquest Mode, but I'll never put that kind of thing past Koei until persuaded otherwise.
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I mean I don't think they're going to take a standard DW badass approach to WZP in Kingdom Mode and then in conquest mode change it up to "Lol Jiang Wei and Sima Yi, we're going to throw in some random npc's on the same map and call it Wu Zhang Plains."
That's the thing though, they did that in previous games with Xtreme Mode for example; and honestly I expect them to do it again.

And it's those generic events in Free Mode that you talked about that I'm worried won't be included. We all think it would be stupid of Koei not to include those battles in Conquest Mode, but I'll never put that kind of thing past Koei until persuaded otherwise.
Exactly true, Koei has done things like this before. It's what has so many people so shaky about the lack of free mode. I don't think we'll learn more until the game releases, so there is no point in worrying.
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