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Free mode; Will it give a free mode?
Topic Started: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:44 pm (1,778 Views)
WeiWuShuJin
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Dynasty Warriors 7 NEED A FREE MODE !!!!
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I don't think free mode is that necessary for the game. But it would be fun. Too bad it won't be in the game.
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Tbh, this needs to be locked and archived... People just dont listen and all this does is cause people to complain about something they know damn nothing about...

I have seen multiple times people explaining the free mode situation but there is still that person who says "Free mode is gone?.. Game sucks.. Wah" and then someone following that with some invalid reason into why free mode should be in when they too have ignored everything else.

Its all so very sad.
Edited by Joetri10, Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:15 pm.
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Omg no free mode but freemode was my favorite oh well but in qonquest mode can we hav a free choice of characters
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I swear, then the worst part is if half these people whining about free mode had read any information about the game they'd realize Conquest is basically an upgraded Free Mode. The only details for Conquest that aren't confirmed yet:

-All story mode stages being on Conquest Map
-Choice of Faction on Conquest Map

That's it, that's all that separates this from Free Mode and these things could still be active (we haven't received enough severe details about Free Mode to be able to tell yet) but given the fact there are well over 100 (possibly up to 200) hexes on the map I don't see how it'd be possible to not have the story mode missions.
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Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:13 pm
Tbh, this needs to be locked and archived...
As far as I'm aware there is still some doubt over whether the battles that appear in Conquest Mode will be the same as the ones in Kingdom Mode; and until that issue is resolved I'd say the topic is still relevant.

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but given the fact there are well over 100 (possibly up to 200) hexes on the map I don't see how it'd be possible to not have the story mode missions.
What? When did you see so many? Got a link to the picture or video etc please?
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Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:08 pm
I swear, then the worst part is if half these people whining about free mode had read any information about the game they'd realize Conquest is basically an upgraded Free Mode. The only details for Conquest that aren't confirmed yet:

-All story mode stages being on Conquest Map
-Choice of Faction on Conquest Map

That's it, that's all that separates this from Free Mode and these things could still be active (we haven't received enough severe details about Free Mode to be able to tell yet) but given the fact there are well over 100 (possibly up to 200) hexes on the map I don't see how it'd be possible to not have the story mode missions.
I'm fine with conquuest mode my only concern is will I be able to use any character I want
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Yes you will Cannibal.

And Xiu on the facebook album there are pics of the entire conquest map (albeit not all are unlocked) but looking at the map its divided into about one hundred pieces. I can literally count them when I get back to make sure my estimation isn't too far off though (I kinda wanna do it now). You can see the silhouettes of hexes that aren't unlocked so you can still count the number of them from the screen.
Edited by Shadowclaimer, Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:18 pm.
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I think it was said early on that conquest will have story mode battles. Such as Yellow tuban reb. ect.

Seeing as each character gets there own stage, that makes 62 stages. With plenty more to fill in so I'm guessing that there will be over 100 stages.
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Actually Celestial it'd technically be less, since Chin said the Story parts would be ripped, so I assume you'd join the battle as the choice officer and just play the battle from beginning to end minus character-based events. Thus those two part battles are probably one single full battle.

Edit: In the silhouettes you can see the icon as well actually, going to look at a high def pic and get a final count when I get home in a few hours for each type of mission.
Edited by Shadowclaimer, Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:28 pm.
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Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:26 pm
Actually Celestial it'd technically be less, since Chin said the Story parts would be ripped, so I assume you'd join the battle as the choice officer and just play the battle from beginning to end minus character-based events. Thus those two part battles are probably one single full battle.
Are we talking about the same thing? I know in story everyone has their own stage but they are suppose to have one in conquest as well.

From the way you describe it, it sounds like free mode indeed. Being able to play a stage but no cutscene if you are not playing with the officer that belongs there. ^_^
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Yes we're talking about the same thing =P my words might have been poorly worded.

Basically in Story Mode there are battles that are divided between multiple characters, each one playing a specific part. IE: Chang Ban has both Zhao Yun and Zhang Fei and you swap between them halfway in during an event. When you play Chang Ban on the Conquest Map it will most likely only be one full mission instead of divided between the characters. Thus lowering the count from 62.

I will also go ahead and note there is some level of speculation running in what I say, so take it with a grain of salt until its all officially confirmed word for word, but Chin did say that they'd be available in Conquest with the Story stripped. So I think its safe to assume you can play any character on them and probably pick side as well.
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Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:32 pm
Yes we're talking about the same thing =P my words might have been poorly worded.

Basically in Story Mode there are battles that are divided between multiple characters, each one playing a specific part. IE: Chang Ban has both Zhao Yun and Zhang Fei and you swap between them halfway in during an event. When you play Chang Ban on the Conquest Map it will most likely only be one full mission instead of divided between the characters. Thus lowering the count from 62.

I will also go ahead and note there is some level of speculation running in what I say, so take it with a grain of salt until its all officially confirmed word for word, but Chin did say that they'd be available in Conquest with the Story stripped. So I think its safe to assume you can play any character on them and probably pick side as well.
Ahhhhh I see what your saying.

But it has been confirmed that each character will have their own conquest stage to themseleves. Thats why I said 62 stages are already guaranteed. Now how many after that is a wonder to me. But I think it could reach the 100 line or past it.
Edited by Celestial, Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:37 pm.
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Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:17 pm
And Xiu on the facebook album there are pics of the entire conquest map (albeit not all are unlocked) but looking at the map its divided into about one hundred pieces. I can literally count them when I get back to make sure my estimation isn't too far off though (I kinda wanna do it now). You can see the silhouettes of hexes that aren't unlocked so you can still count the number of them from the screen.
Found them, thanks; no idea how I missed them before. 100 is probably a pretty good estimate as well. I am pleased!
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Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:36 pm
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Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:32 pm
Yes we're talking about the same thing =P my words might have been poorly worded.

Basically in Story Mode there are battles that are divided between multiple characters, each one playing a specific part. IE: Chang Ban has both Zhao Yun and Zhang Fei and you swap between them halfway in during an event. When you play Chang Ban on the Conquest Map it will most likely only be one full mission instead of divided between the characters. Thus lowering the count from 62.

I will also go ahead and note there is some level of speculation running in what I say, so take it with a grain of salt until its all officially confirmed word for word, but Chin did say that they'd be available in Conquest with the Story stripped. So I think its safe to assume you can play any character on them and probably pick side as well.
Ahhhhh I see what your saying.

But it has been confirmed that each character will have their own conquest stage to themseleves. Thats why I said 62 stages are already guatanteed. Now how many after that is a wonder to me. But I think it could reach the 100 line or past it.
Ah yea I see what you're saying, forgot about that. Well the other thing is its quite possible some Hexes could be unique based on the character you go to them with.

Each character has their own Conquest Hex as well as supposedly a Special Weapon unique to them. So technically there might be a Hex that for example is a Special Weapon Hex for Zhou Yu, Lu Xun, and Sun Ce but based on which one you go to it with the mission is slightly tweaked and the reward will be that character's special weapon.

That's super speculation though.

When I get the count when I get home I can tell better. If there's less than 62 Special Weapon hexes (which I figure there will be many less) its safe to assume some characters would share the hex.
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Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:38 pm
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And Xiu on the facebook album there are pics of the entire conquest map (albeit not all are unlocked) but looking at the map its divided into about one hundred pieces. I can literally count them when I get back to make sure my estimation isn't too far off though (I kinda wanna do it now). You can see the silhouettes of hexes that aren't unlocked so you can still count the number of them from the screen.
Found them, thanks; no idea how I missed them before. 100 is probably a pretty good estimate as well. I am pleased!
Me too, I was excited about conquest before, then I saw that map and just my jaw dropped. Counting all Story Missions, What If's, the RPG elements, and all that it blows Free Mode out of the water to me =)

Also when I get home and get the Conquest Map counted and such I'll post a new thread about Conquest Information for those curious. It'll probably include basic quotes about features and the count of hexes for now.
Edited by Shadowclaimer, Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:41 pm.
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Wait, I thought in conquest mode if you want to play as another character, you have to conquer the WHOLE map again? You can't just switch characters halfway through, can you? I'd rather a free mode where I can just pick a random map and play, not walk through stages that I may not like until I get to ones I do like (Chi Bi?)
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No no once you unlock a hex its unlocked for everyone.

You play through the map as a whole, not per character, but before you start a hex you can pick your character.

I'd prefer you play through it with each character almost, but that's not how it works =P however that does mean you have to work your way over to a specific hex if you're hunting for one.

The example they show in one of the screenshots is a zigzag pattern they do to get to the most hexes the fastest instead of just doing them outwards from start lol

I can see your point of wanting to instantly select the stage as soon as you finish it in story though, but I think overall Conquest ends up a better system besides that regard.
Edited by Shadowclaimer, Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:04 pm.
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170 Hexes in Conquest Mode.
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Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:15 pm
170 Hexes in Conquest Mode.
Liking this number. I'm still hoping that Conquest Mode will be implemented well enough that Free Mode won't be missed. It SOUNDS good, but will it function in practice?
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Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:52 pm
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Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:15 pm
170 Hexes in Conquest Mode.
Liking this number. I'm still hoping that Conquest Mode will be implemented well enough that Free Mode won't be missed. It SOUNDS good, but will it function in practice?
Hopefully, we can only wait =P
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Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:03 pm
No no once you unlock a hex its unlocked for everyone.
Any source for this? I don't think I've seen this before. But if it's true, I'll be pretty happy. Now we just need to be able to play each stage on any side, no matter the character used... Lu Bu killing Lu Bu, for example :ph43r:
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Go to the main site and read how Conquest works =P it has the details about it under the modes menu
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Go to the main site and read how Conquest works =P it has the details about it under the modes menu
Thanks for the info then :) I bet that more than half will be cities, etc though. :) I'm sure KOEI won't have more than 85+ stages. If they do, MORE FOR ME :dance:
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I think there will be more than 30 stages.
What would be a lot more than Dynasty Warriors 6.
Then we can get more stages in DLC.
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