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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
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BuddHA0991
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Hey guys, dont forget, it was said that dw6 characters were "different in spots".
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:43 am
Hey guys, dont forget, it was said that dw6 characters were "different in spots".
Lu Meng had three elemental effects while Guan Ping had none...

ZOMG, THERE ARE CLONES AGAIN! CHIN, YOU LIED TO US!

Okay, overreacting, I'll stop. Time for Dragon Age Origin time anyway, after I watch the Wu PV another time.
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:29 am
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:25 am
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Thats one of those "unique" generics right? the character design is from the ROTK series. Can someone translate the officer's name and confirm that that officer is really generic? This person keeps telling me that hes apparently the "final secret character". And i know its not because if he was a secret..why reveal him in a promotional video? :huh:
Zhu Ling. The generic officers are getting more and more unique in this game.
nooooo Zhu Ling :sad: i wanted him so badly *cries* what next? Cheng Pu looking like a stupid generic? i hope not he must look cool, that is Zhu Ling right?
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It's funny that when DW6 was coming out there was almost no clone talk, but now that we have been burned we will not fall for the same trick again.

So many clone talk now, lol.
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In my face? Sure, considering that everyone can still equip every weapon and be clones...... :rolleyes:

Good to see we'll get ANOTHER video next week....hope it isn't just a retread of old crap like the Shu video was. Hope its like 5 minutes long myself.
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"NO CLONES, IN YOUR FACE! NAH!" :facepalm:

Sure, Chin's words are gospel, but is the poster who quoted him? Where did the quote come from? Where is the source/proof/evidence? Quit bragging and shouting, because you might just be made a fool of yet.
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:23 am
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:16 am
However, I do have some interesting information. I'm not sure if it's new or not but I asked inspchin on his blog :
"Do characters who share a main weapon have the same exact charge attacks with that weapon? For example, would Zhao Yun and Ma Chao have the same exact charge attacks with their main weapons except for their EX attacks and Musous?"...and his reply was: "Some are similar but some bits aren’t." So im guessing that not all of the charge attacks are identical.



I HAD to quote this for all those people saying that EVERYONE will have the same charge attacks. I knew that wasn't the case, so screw all the skepticism!

In your FACE Necrosis and Lambo :XD
yes because Chin is very reliable after saying two completely confrontational things two days in a row. Yesterday he said everyone is an exact clones, today he says they're different. HE MUST BE TELLING THE TRUTH THIS TIME.

Lets also bring up the fact that we just got info that the stances between different characters will be different, yeah that really changes the move sets and makes the characters less of a clone, and I'm pretty sure thats what Chin is referring to. If not it's the elements, they even said DW6 characters will be slightly different, and look how different they actually were.

Also I've yet to see anything that actually shows differences between characters, when I've seen plenty o f characters sharing moves. Why would Koei advertise the similarities, but keep the differences hidden? Sorry, but I'm going to be a stickler here and say that there are definitely clones.

not that it even matters to me much, I'm just taking the personal mention far
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:54 am
In my face? Sure, considering that everyone can still equip every weapon and be clones...... :rolleyes:

Good to see we'll get ANOTHER video next week....hope it isn't just a retread of old crap like the Shu video was. Hope its like 5 minutes long myself.
Yea I didn't like how the Shu bid was done and they could of Tookin jingo wei out and put I'n like someone else. Also tired of Zhang ban I'd rather see what their cutscene I'n yellow turban will be like.
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:56 am
"NO CLONES, IN YOUR FACE! NAH!" :facepalm:

Sure, Chin's words are gospel, but is the poster who quoted him? Where did the quote come from? Where is the source/proof/evidence? Quit bragging and shouting, because you might just be made a fool of yet.
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:41 am
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WynterRayn
Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:25 am
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Thats one of those "unique" generics right? the character design is from the ROTK series. Can someone translate the officer's name and confirm that that officer is really generic? This person keeps telling me that hes apparently the "final secret character". And i know its not because if he was a secret..why reveal him in a promotional video? :huh:
That's not the secret character i pretty sure they'll end up giving him/her a unique weapon but yea that's on of them because they have xu zhu's weapon but i can't translate
Is it confirmed there will be a secret character? I thought that was just a theory from that one translation, but I see people talking like its fact. I haven't been on much the past day or two, so I don't know if I missed something.
Well hopefully the secret character is epic an has a unique weapon like Zuo Ci :D
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Not to mention this "Trevor" guy has been reporting things Chin has not actually said verbatim in the past.

Also Chin HAS said he hans't played much outside of Jin to me ssoooo.......... :wacko:


Regardless. I know SW3 had "unique" generics, and if this game does too, that's only a good thing. Hvaing every single officer look the same is dull. Slightly altering them up brings a bit more personality to even "non important" characters. :wub:

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@reverie I would have Put in Zhang Fei and maybe Huang Zhong instead of the spear clone boys. At least ditch Ma Chao from the PV, he wasn't needed...he's not new, not returning (Jiang Lame at least gets to show off that he exists)
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Yeah, what BuddHA said is exactly what I was going to bring up. Sorry to be a debbie downer, but what Chin says is open to lots of interpretation. Don't keep your hopes high, by "some will be different" it can mean some have elemental effects attached, some won't.

By keeping your hopes low, if it doesn't come true, then you won't be disappointed as much. If it does comes true, then you can still be happy.

It's a win-win situation.

But! Onto the new PVs. I'm really surprised the remaining two kingdom PVs were released.

Wu: - why is Lian Shi in the opening screen? Does it hope that she'll be one of Wu's main characters?
- would have liked to see a more actiony opening sequence, but still good nonetheless. The cutscene-battle transition is a lot better compared to the first time it was shown with Zhao Yun
- awesome EX attack, Zhou Tai. I though allied officers were supposed to be hit, though?

Not that much that's remarkable. Unspectacular for me.

Shu: - disappointed to see the Changban thing as an opening again
- yeah, Bao Sanniang's gonna be annoying in the dub
- ohmyguh Ma Daiii
- lol @ Guan Suo beating up Wang Yuanji
- I question KOEI's marketing ability when they put two spear users right after the other, using the same charge attack.
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OK i dont know if anyone said this already, so dont flame me haha
In the Wu PV during Da Qiao's part of the video, we see the whip! It's confirmed! So I think it's a high possibly Diao Chan's coming back with the whip...what do you guys think?
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:00 am
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:56 am
"NO CLONES, IN YOUR FACE! NAH!" :facepalm:

Sure, Chin's words are gospel, but is the poster who quoted him? Where did the quote come from? Where is the source/proof/evidence? Quit bragging and shouting, because you might just be made a fool of yet.
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but what bits are those? they DID say there would be some slight differences in movesets in 6, and there WAS some slight differences, that slight being the slightest of differences. I say wait for the game to come to any conclusion on this issue....bah who am I kidding, this is Koei Warriors...
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BuddHA0991
Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:04 am
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:00 am
Frayling0
Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:56 am
"NO CLONES, IN YOUR FACE! NAH!" :facepalm:

Sure, Chin's words are gospel, but is the poster who quoted him? Where did the quote come from? Where is the source/proof/evidence? Quit bragging and shouting, because you might just be made a fool of yet.
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but what bits are those? they DID say there would be some slight differences in movesets in 6, and there WAS some slight differences, that slight being the slightest of differences. I say wait for the game to come to any conclusion on this issue....bah who am I kidding, this is Koei Warriors...
There's no way anyone can give a definite answer here - even if they could the answer may probably not be accurate. Like you said, you should probably just wait for the game to find out.

And it's best to not always depend on what Chin or any other KOEI staff member says will be in the game to actually appear in the end result. The game could still be subject to change at this point, so don't believe everything you see and hear.
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does anyone know what that suave japanese man is talking about on the official site?
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I guess I don't really see the big deal with having charge attacks the same for a given weapon class. Maybe that's just because after a few stages I'm totally focused on dealing out COMPLETE AND TOTAL CARNAGE and using the best crowd clearing attacks than I am what they look like. . . but that's just me.

It's like...ooh ah, pretty. Okay, let's use these two moves and off we go. As long as the attacks themselves are cool (which, from all indications they are very cool), I don't care if I see them over and over :)
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:23 am
I guess I don't really see the big deal with having charge attacks the same for a given weapon class. Maybe that's just because after a few stages I'm totally focused on dealing out COMPLETE AND TOTAL CARNAGE and using the best crowd clearing attacks than I am what they look like. . . but that's just me.

It's like...ooh ah, pretty. Okay, let's use these two moves and off we go. As long as the attacks themselves are cool (which, from all indications they are very cool), I don't care if I see them over and over :)
Lol stop lying there is no damn way, what are you smoking? Lol but hey there is a possibility someone out there loves looking at the same Shiz over and over and not get bored lmao. I take it everyone pulling for clones do as well. So don't sweat it I was joking but I still worry a little bit man.

I also must say I'm doing exactly what bamboo said I'ma just keep them low on the movesets.

@necrosis: That would be good with Zhang fei I'n although Ma chao one my favorite but I wouldn't have mind nonetheless, long as they made up for it.


Also at the spelling errors I make it's mainly because of the iPhone 4 -_-
Edited by Reverie, Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:40 am.
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:23 am
I guess I don't really see the big deal with having charge attacks the same for a given weapon class. Maybe that's just because after a few stages I'm totally focused on dealing out COMPLETE AND TOTAL CARNAGE and using the best crowd clearing attacks than I am what they look like. . . but that's just me.

It's like...ooh ah, pretty. Okay, let's use these two moves and off we go. As long as the attacks themselves are cool (which, from all indications they are very cool), I don't care if I see them over and over :)
Lol stop lying there is no damn way, what are you smoking? Lol but hey there is a possibility someone out there loves looking at the same Shiz over and over and not get bored lmao. I take it everyone pulling for clones do as well. So don't sweat it I was joking but I still worry a little bit man.

theres a lot of weapons you can change to in the game if you dont like the charge attack pick a new weapon easy as that :whistle:
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:37 am
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aliebeth
Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:23 am
I guess I don't really see the big deal with having charge attacks the same for a given weapon class. Maybe that's just because after a few stages I'm totally focused on dealing out COMPLETE AND TOTAL CARNAGE and using the best crowd clearing attacks than I am what they look like. . . but that's just me.

It's like...ooh ah, pretty. Okay, let's use these two moves and off we go. As long as the attacks themselves are cool (which, from all indications they are very cool), I don't care if I see them over and over :)
Lol stop lying there is no damn way, what are you smoking? Lol but hey there is a possibility someone out there loves looking at the same Shiz over and over and not get bored lmao. I take it everyone pulling for clones do as well. So don't sweat it I was joking but I still worry a little bit man.

theres a lot of weapons you can change to in the game if you dont like the charge attack pick a new weapon easy as that :whistle:
Only one issue man s string and charge attacks are the same nothing more also you get the switch attack but bare with me I thought about it and am still figuring out which is worse either way it's a loose loose because your just a clone of someone else minus an ex attack and musou which is understandable but do you get what I mean man? I did think about that though like last month but doesn't mean nothing. Though I can agree with you if you mean ok I'm tired of using the spear let's use the drill spear but still it's baisicly having two clone weapons.

Man but aye I might not see it as you see and I'm not very stubborn I'm open to know more about what you saying.
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:37 am
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aliebeth
Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:23 am
I guess I don't really see the big deal with having charge attacks the same for a given weapon class. Maybe that's just because after a few stages I'm totally focused on dealing out COMPLETE AND TOTAL CARNAGE and using the best crowd clearing attacks than I am what they look like. . . but that's just me.

It's like...ooh ah, pretty. Okay, let's use these two moves and off we go. As long as the attacks themselves are cool (which, from all indications they are very cool), I don't care if I see them over and over :)
Lol stop lying there is no damn way, what are you smoking? Lol but hey there is a possibility someone out there loves looking at the same Shiz over and over and not get bored lmao. I take it everyone pulling for clones do as well. So don't sweat it I was joking but I still worry a little bit man.

theres a lot of weapons you can change to in the game if you dont like the charge attack pick a new weapon easy as that :whistle:
Nope, I'm not lying at all. As far as I'm concerned, DW has always been about "seeing the same shiz over and over and not getting bored". It's just fun to kill lots and lots of soldiers :)

I've played since DW1 (yes, that GOD AWFUL fighting game), and I'm still not sick of it. I've never read the novel, have little interest in the history, and could care less what fictional hoo-hah they add or don't add. I just want to button mash and see my KO count go up while wearing a spiffy outfit and swinging a spiffy implement of mass destruction around. Therefore, I think DW7 is going to be perfect just the way it is :)
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:48 am
Whitewolf76969
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aliebeth
Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:23 am
I guess I don't really see the big deal with having charge attacks the same for a given weapon class. Maybe that's just because after a few stages I'm totally focused on dealing out COMPLETE AND TOTAL CARNAGE and using the best crowd clearing attacks than I am what they look like. . . but that's just me.

It's like...ooh ah, pretty. Okay, let's use these two moves and off we go. As long as the attacks themselves are cool (which, from all indications they are very cool), I don't care if I see them over and over :)
Lol stop lying there is no damn way, what are you smoking? Lol but hey there is a possibility someone out there loves looking at the same Shiz over and over and not get bored lmao. I take it everyone pulling for clones do as well. So don't sweat it I was joking but I still worry a little bit man.

theres a lot of weapons you can change to in the game if you dont like the charge attack pick a new weapon easy as that :whistle:
Only one issue man s string and charge attacks are the same nothing more also you get the switch attack but bare with me I thought about it and am still figuring out which is worse either way it's a loose loose because your just a clone of someone else minus an ex attack and musou which is understandable but do you get what I mean man? I did think about that though like last month but doesn't mean nothing. Though I can agree with you if you mean ok I'm tired of using the spear let's use the drill spear but still it's baisicly having two clone weapons.

Man but aye I might not see it as you see and I'm not very stubborn I'm open to know more about what you saying.
its my understanding that all the weapons can be used with one character exept for ones gender limited. so if that is true you got jiang wei and ma chao with the same attacks you switch to a different weapon you got new attacks. i dont remember how many weapons theyre were but i remember it was a lot.
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It is sad that if were not for Ma Dai, the Shu pv ould of been comepletely lackluster. I mean really, showing all three spear users? Only glimpse of Zhuge liang was the huang zhong cutscene but you could only see him for a second.

I'll wait about the whole clone issue. It's very wishy-washy at the moment.
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:56 am
"NO CLONES, IN YOUR FACE! NAH!" :facepalm:

Sure, Chin's words are gospel, but is the poster who quoted him? Where did the quote come from? Where is the source/proof/evidence? Quit bragging and shouting, because you might just be made a fool of yet.
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but what bits are those? they DID say there would be some slight differences in movesets in 6, and there WAS some slight differences, that slight being the slightest of differences. I say wait for the game to come to any conclusion on this issue....bah who am I kidding, this is Koei Warriors...
To be fair, some of those "slight" differences were enough to make some characters far superior to everyone else with that Moveset. Like Zhang He's FABULOUS twisters in the spear set. Or Huang Zhong's Ice attacks making his saber moveset REALLY good.
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the way i see it. they added a lot more characters then i would of expected. a lot more characters then i think anyone expected. a whole entire dynasty as well. i think its stupid people are mad about the clone issues when they were generous enough to give us so many new characters. think of your favorite warrior you wish could be in this game. would you want them in the game if they were given the same weapon of someone else? id hope that all of you would. id be happy if pang de was in this game even if him and zhang liao had the same weapons
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