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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
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Sheng Dao
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Shadowclaimer
Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:52 pm
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:50 pm
Personally, I would prefer my female characters to be well, FEMALE, not a woman being man like.

I just dont see why cos Bao Sanniang has a cat like musou and follows Guan Suo can stop her from being an amazing warrior?!
No no, not what I meant earlier (was trying to avoid sounding like that).

I like my female characters to be emotionally engaging and "fit" so to speak, my annoyance comes from characters who's sole goal seems to be to stand out and be the elephant in the room. Bao isn't near as bad as, say, Xu Zhu or so (ha bad pun, fat guy being the elephant in the room) but she still to a point acts out kinda.

I feel like very few games manage to portray females in a way that's not sex-icon or cutesy-wootsy. The ones that do however really hit the ball out of the park it seems with engaging characters.
I'm right there with you on this one. Most people might write you off as a sexist for that opinion though.
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ha characters like xu zhu shouldnt be aloud to ride horses. where did yall see the screenshots of diaochan i cant find them /:
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:44 pm
Celestial
Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:42 pm
SazukeEX
Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:39 pm
Zhen Ji looks like a pampered Concubine which she was.

While Zhu Rong?

Now that's a 'REAL" woman right there. Nothing is hotter than a babe that can kick your ass.
Zhen Ji is a pampered wife, not concubine. ;)

Anyway, loving Bao Sanniang cat pose! So cute/sexy/fun!!!!! :wub:
"Pampered concubine?" Really now?
Zhen's life was far from pampered, and as Celestial said; she was a wife. Cao Pi treated her like garbage and one of his other wives even convinced him to exile her and later ordered her to kill herself. Ontop of that, she was buried with her hair covering her face and her mouth filled with rice grain shells to "prevent her from complaining in the afterlife," or something to that effect.

She's quite the tragic figure, historically speaking. I really wish Koei would work this angle, but they'd have to include Guo Nuwang.. And they don't seem to be fans of the multiple wife thing. Though they could just make Guo jealous of Zhen and not a wife if Cao Pi or something.
Cao Pi didn't start mistreating Zhen till Guo Nuwang entered the picture. She was favored by Cao Pi until she entered the picture.

Adding Guo as an UNPC like lady Mi could work well to enhance Lady Zhen's story though. If Oichi can have two husbands in one game, I see no problem with Cao Pi having two wives.

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Oichi is a G though... Cao Pi?

Not so much. =p
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I agree we need more assertive females in DW, that being said though, I have no problems with the ones they have chosen to include. Yea some aren't part of the real story and some are fan service but it's the uniqueness that sets them apart.
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Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:03 am
Oichi is a G though... Cao Pi?

Not so much. =p
Oichi being a girl doesn't mean anything. It certainly doesn't make things better. =3
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bluebolting
Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:19 pm
Bao looked adorable/hot, haters gonna hate, haters to the left, etc. Lian Shi's musou was pretty suggestive subtly in itself, etc etc.

How is her musou attack any bit suggestive?, you gotta have a pretty dirty mind to read anything from that, i have a very dirty mind also and yet i dont find anything wrong with it....
Apparantly, the way she pulls the crossboy quiver...thing...is suggestive. I'm not too sure of this myself, because...I was too busy trying to see "if they put in jiggle physics" to see what she was doing :mellow:
I saw jiggling in Bao's musou though
Wait is someone saying its suggestive cuz of jiggling?

OMG, guess what people, that is what boobs do! If you wanna be a perv about it that is your own thing
Yeah I really like what said. Made laugh a little. :hehe:

I know this though people personality play on the fact what is sexy, and what not.

We're not a hive mind. So no can say that you can't, or can like the characters. Also means you can't, or can dislike whoever you want as well.

Personally I always make a habit of playing every character even I don't want to play them just to try them out, and finish all story curves.
Edited by rvanmaster, Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:22 am.
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Celestial
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:44 pm
Celestial
Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:42 pm
SazukeEX
Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:39 pm
Zhen Ji looks like a pampered Concubine which she was.

While Zhu Rong?

Now that's a 'REAL" woman right there. Nothing is hotter than a babe that can kick your ass.
Zhen Ji is a pampered wife, not concubine. ;)

Anyway, loving Bao Sanniang cat pose! So cute/sexy/fun!!!!! :wub:
"Pampered concubine?" Really now?
Zhen's life was far from pampered, and as Celestial said; she was a wife. Cao Pi treated her like garbage and one of his other wives even convinced him to exile her and later ordered her to kill herself. Ontop of that, she was buried with her hair covering her face and her mouth filled with rice grain shells to "prevent her from complaining in the afterlife," or something to that effect.

She's quite the tragic figure, historically speaking. I really wish Koei would work this angle, but they'd have to include Guo Nuwang.. And they don't seem to be fans of the multiple wife thing. Though they could just make Guo jealous of Zhen and not a wife if Cao Pi or something.
Cao Pi didn't start mistreating Zhen till Guo Nuwang entered the picture. She was favored by Cao Pi until she entered the picture.

Adding Guo as an UNPC like lady Mi could work well to enhance Lady Zhen's story though. If Oichi can have two husbands in one game, I see no problem with Cao Pi having two wives.

Also, I don't think Zhen wouldn't have been happy even before Nuwang entered the picture. When Cao Cao successfully took over Yuan Shao's land and let Cao Pi immediately take Zhen as his wife even though she was already married to Yuan Xi (? I think it was him...), would she have been happy that she'd have to re-marry another stranger after getting to finally getting used to being a wife to her current hubby (because back in those times women were married off for family alliances, wealth, etc right)?

Imagine, would you be happy if a random rich guy whose father took over your family's company suddenly forced you to marry him even though you were already in a relationship with someone else? Yeah that's what I thought (Btw i was using companies instead of kingdoms to suit this modern day and age so yeah :) ).
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Celestial
Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:56 am
If Oichi can have two husbands in one game, I see no problem with Cao Pi having two wives.

The problem with that is Oichi's first husband dies before she remarries. Cao Pi having Guo Nuwang and Zhen Ji would require both to be lovers, and KOEI doesn't seem mature enough to include that there were such things as concubines in their games.

Shadowclaimer
 
I feel like very few games manage to portray females in a way that's not sex-icon or cutesy-wootsy. The ones that do however really hit the ball out of the park it seems with engaging characters.
Yeah, I hate one-note characters or those whose only purpose is for fanservice and aren't deep. Hence, in the past despite their potential I would have cut the likes of Xu Chu, Zhang He, Taishi Ci, Xiao Qiao, Guan Ping and others.

Ginchiyo's story was gurrreat in SW2, as IIRC was Oichi's.

Sex sells, but it doesn't have to take over every design. That seems to be the trend with most females for this installment, with the exceptions being Xing Cai and the Qiaos. Sometimes, it can ruin some parts of a character, like Yue Ying. She may have been unpopular, but that doesn't have to mean them tampering with her modesty? I think DW6's was fine, but I do miss the Yue Ying of the pre-DW6 era. At least we might be getting those costumes as DLC.

All the above doesn't mean that sexualized characters aren't welcome, as long as they deliver. Noh in the first SW, frankly I love Zhen Ji (but her empress-ness should come through more in her designs) and wish they'd bring more of suggestive lines I've heard she had from the Japanese port, and so on.

Also waiting for a fat woman in DW.

The new screenshots are amazing. The graphics are so smooth and detailed compared to past games. It's no Arkham City but nevertheless they're definitely nothing to complain about.
Edited by Bamboo, Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:30 am.
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I thought new characters were to be released yesterday?
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Celestial
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Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:21 am
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Sagittarius
Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:44 pm
Celestial
Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:42 pm
SazukeEX
Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:39 pm
Zhen Ji looks like a pampered Concubine which she was.

While Zhu Rong?

Now that's a 'REAL" woman right there. Nothing is hotter than a babe that can kick your ass.
Zhen Ji is a pampered wife, not concubine. ;)

Anyway, loving Bao Sanniang cat pose! So cute/sexy/fun!!!!! :wub:
"Pampered concubine?" Really now?
Zhen's life was far from pampered, and as Celestial said; she was a wife. Cao Pi treated her like garbage and one of his other wives even convinced him to exile her and later ordered her to kill herself. Ontop of that, she was buried with her hair covering her face and her mouth filled with rice grain shells to "prevent her from complaining in the afterlife," or something to that effect.

She's quite the tragic figure, historically speaking. I really wish Koei would work this angle, but they'd have to include Guo Nuwang.. And they don't seem to be fans of the multiple wife thing. Though they could just make Guo jealous of Zhen and not a wife if Cao Pi or something.
Cao Pi didn't start mistreating Zhen till Guo Nuwang entered the picture. She was favored by Cao Pi until she entered the picture.

Adding Guo as an UNPC like lady Mi could work well to enhance Lady Zhen's story though. If Oichi can have two husbands in one game, I see no problem with Cao Pi having two wives.

Also, I don't think Zhen wouldn't have been happy even before Nuwang entered the picture. When Cao Cao successfully took over Yuan Shao's land and let Cao Pi immediately take Zhen as his wife even though she was already married to Yuan Xi (? I think it was him...), would she have been happy that she'd have to re-marry another stranger after getting to finally getting used to being a wife to her current hubby (because back in those times women were married off for family alliances, wealth, etc right)?

Imagine, would you be happy if a random rich guy whose father took over your family's company suddenly forced you to marry him even though you were already in a relationship with someone else? Yeah that's what I thought (Btw i was using companies instead of kingdoms to suit this modern day and age so yeah :) ).
If it was modern day yes, I would be very upset if I was forced to marry someone I didn't want. But if it was back in Zhen's time what choice would I have? I didn't mean for it to come off as Zhen was happy the whole time. I'm sure in the begining she may have been depressed but I'm sure she got over it.
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Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:31 am
I thought new characters were to be released yesterday?
It was the PVS, scans are expected next week :)
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Can someone give me the link that have CG with weapons?
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http://aitherion.org/dw7/

glad i bookmarked it.
Edited by rvanmaster, Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:48 am.
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Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:29 am
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If Oichi can have two husbands in one game, I see no problem with Cao Pi having two wives.

The problem with that is Oichi's first husband dies before she remarries. Cao Pi having Guo Nuwang and Zhen Ji would require both to be lovers, and KOEI doesn't seem mature enough to include that there were such things as concubines in their games.

Oichi was married to Katsuie first but was forced to divorce by Nobunaga for Nagamasa. But SW des tend to keep that detail out. I see no problem with displaying Guo Nuwang as a woman on the side who sneaks her way into Zhen's spot but koei showing this anytime soon is a mystery. I hope that they at least tackle it some what in DW7 or DW8. Like I said there still is a chance for her being a NPC.
Edited by Celestial, Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:51 am.
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If Oichi can have two husbands in one game, I see no problem with Cao Pi having two wives.

The problem with that is Oichi's first husband dies before she remarries. Cao Pi having Guo Nuwang and Zhen Ji would require both to be lovers, and KOEI doesn't seem mature enough to include that there were such things as concubines in their games.

Shadowclaimer
 
I feel like very few games manage to portray females in a way that's not sex-icon or cutesy-wootsy. The ones that do however really hit the ball out of the park it seems with engaging characters.
Yeah, I hate one-note characters or those whose only purpose is for fanservice and aren't deep. Hence, in the past despite their potential I would have cut the likes of Xu Chu, Zhang He, Taishi Ci, Xiao Qiao, Guan Ping and others.

Ginchiyo's story was gurrreat in SW2, as IIRC was Oichi's.

Sex sells, but it doesn't have to take over every design. That seems to be the trend with most females for this installment, with the exceptions being Xing Cai and the Qiaos. Sometimes, it can ruin some parts of a character, like Yue Ying. She may have been unpopular, but that doesn't have to mean them tampering with her modesty? I think DW6's was fine, but I do miss the Yue Ying of the pre-DW6 era. At least we might be getting those costumes as DLC.

All the above doesn't mean that sexualized characters aren't welcome, as long as they deliver. Noh in the first SW, frankly I love Zhen Ji (but her empress-ness should come through more in her designs) and wish they'd bring more of suggestive lines I've heard she had from the Japanese port, and so on.

Also waiting for a fat woman in DW.

The new screenshots are amazing. The graphics are so smooth and detailed compared to past games. It's no Arkham City but nevertheless they're definitely nothing to complain about.
There's no ugly and fat females chars in games, pal. Get over it :P

But I'd like to see an old lady.
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Jiang Wei1
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When are the English sites going to be updated. Shouldnt they be updated today with all the new characters?
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Offtopic question: has there ever been anyone in the DW and SW series that had glasses, or were they not invented or something....
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They weren't in the 3rd century, but they did have glasses in Sengoku Japan. None of the characters included to my knowledge wore them though.
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*sigh* I come back to over 30 pages worth of posts, and most of it is about Bao.

Seriously? everyones' already discussed her. People like her, people don't. It's the same with every other frickin character. Like Xu Zhu for example. I for one prefer Bao to him. We've only seen about 10 seconds worth of her, but we've had to put up with Xu Zhu's annoying personality for ages now .-.


also. did somebody post a picture of Diao Chan or something? I saw people talking about her :shifty:
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also. did somebody post a picture of Diao Chan or something? I saw people talking about her :shifty:
No, and yes at the same time.

It was just a zoomed in version of the image we had before. You know the blurry one.
But this one had an outline that kind directed what her outfit would look like. ^_^
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also. did somebody post a picture of Diao Chan or something? I saw people talking about her :shifty:
No, and yes at the same time.

It was just a zoomed in version of the image we had before. You know the blurry one.
But this one had an outline that kind directed what her outfit would look like. ^_^
Oh I see. Like when someone filled in the rest of SSX's outfit when we saw her on the pen?
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:33 pm
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Speculation time!!
Here you go UpInMaBubble. ^_^
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:33 pm
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Speculation time!!
Here you go UpInMaBubble. ^_^
I can't see anything, my computer blocks that site for some reason :(
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When are the English sites going to be updated. Shouldnt they be updated today with all the new characters?
yea i know! they are literally taking forever and they cannot take any longer
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