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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
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Since we are able to save and come back, I might just complete the first five stages of each Kingdom's musou and just to see what will be in store for me if I choose to continue that one. But I'll still probally end up playing Wu first and saving Jin for last XD.
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Bng422
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What Koei means is that it'll be fairly accurate for Shu and Wei with Wu as an afterthought.

Sima Zhao - "After 13 battles I've defeated Shu!"
Soldier - "What about Wu?"
Sima Zhao - "Who?"
Soldier - "The other Kingdom?"
Sima Zhao - "Oooh... Those guys. They've been awefully quiet. I haven't even fought them since Zhuge Dan rebelled and my brother died by my General Wen Yang."
Soldier - "So, are we gonna take another 13 battles to conquer the land?"
Sima Zhao - "Heck no! Those guys die in one battle!"
Soldier - "Might I suggest having Du Yu lead the assault?"
Sima Zhao - "Du Who?"
Hahaha, though in all seriousness I'm really hoping it doesn't turn out like this, even though it seems to be going down that path. :/
Who could forget that Sima Zhao died 2 years after he destroyed Shu?

Where's Sima Yan when you need him?
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Bng422
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SazukeEX
Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:39 am
What Koei means is that it'll be fairly accurate for Shu and Wei with Wu as an afterthought.

Sima Zhao - "After 13 battles I've defeated Shu!"
Soldier - "What about Wu?"
Sima Zhao - "Who?"
Soldier - "The other Kingdom?"
Sima Zhao - "Oooh... Those guys. They've been awefully quiet. I haven't even fought them since Zhuge Dan rebelled and my brother died by my General Wen Yang."
Soldier - "So, are we gonna take another 13 battles to conquer the land?"
Sima Zhao - "Heck no! Those guys die in one battle!"
Soldier - "Might I suggest having Du Yu lead the assault?"
Sima Zhao - "Du Who?"
Hahaha, though in all seriousness I'm really hoping it doesn't turn out like this, even though it seems to be going down that path. :/
Who could forget that Sima Zhao died 2 years after he destroyed Shu?

Where's Sima Yan when you need him?
So basically Sima Zhao's gonna have his life extended to defeat Wu and claim all of China under the banner of Jin? Well I was expecting that actually... unless Sima Yan gets suddenly revealed as a surprise character lol.
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:50 am
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SazukeEX
Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:39 am
What Koei means is that it'll be fairly accurate for Shu and Wei with Wu as an afterthought.

Sima Zhao - "After 13 battles I've defeated Shu!"
Soldier - "What about Wu?"
Sima Zhao - "Who?"
Soldier - "The other Kingdom?"
Sima Zhao - "Oooh... Those guys. They've been awefully quiet. I haven't even fought them since Zhuge Dan rebelled and my brother died by my General Wen Yang."
Soldier - "So, are we gonna take another 13 battles to conquer the land?"
Sima Zhao - "Heck no! Those guys die in one battle!"
Soldier - "Might I suggest having Du Yu lead the assault?"
Sima Zhao - "Du Who?"
Hahaha, though in all seriousness I'm really hoping it doesn't turn out like this, even though it seems to be going down that path. :/
Who could forget that Sima Zhao died 2 years after he destroyed Shu?

Where's Sima Yan when you need him?
Off with Du Yu and Wen Yang, doing generic stuff. >.>
As much as it's looking like I'll love this new game, I only have one comment that comes to mind in this scenario.
Fail Koei, just fail.
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:20 pm
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:04 pm
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:27 pm
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:33 pm
Westerners hate Bao Sanniang but Japan DW fans almost universally love her.
Proof pls.

That is really just talking out of your ass.

Do you have proof that I'm talking out my ass? How about rolling down to that one Shu thread that I've posted a lot in? It offers a lot of explanations for what I have said about said Topic. :wave:
You're asking me for proof that you don't have the proof that I asked for...

Welp.

And I've started reading some of your posts in that thread (I can already tell this will be a headache) and It's still not any proof or explanation, you just keep on saying "Japan loves this and hates that etc." So I'll say it again:
Where's
The
Proof?
I wanted to bring this up earlier. But i was quite busy today. This Topic is from last evening/night. This is just some info. No need to become frustrated.

I think, i can give you the proof. This is a japanese "fanmade pics"-site:
http://www.pixiv.net/tags.php?tag=%E4%B8%89%E5%9C%8B%E7%84%A1%E5%8F%8C

I look in this site every day from the very beginning for new and good pics. Sometimes, there are really good ones.
I have already saved many pics on my PC.
And looking at the amount of the pics i have collected, i would say, that Bao Sanniang is indeed already popular in Japan. Even Guan Suo, who is very new (whom i don't like much).
But actually, this doesn't need to be proven. Because we already know, that japanese fans love characters like those two.

According to the amount of "good" pics (there where many "bad" pics too, which i have not count), which i have collected, the most popular characters in Japan BY NOW, are definitely Wang Yuanji (about 60 "good" pics collected), Guo Huai (30 "good" pics), Sun Shang Xiang (30 "good" pics), Ma Dai (30 "good" pics), Zhong Hui (25 "good" pics), Ma Chao (25 "good" pics), Lu Xun (25 "good" pics), Ling Tong (25 "good" pics), Jiang Wei (25 "good" pics), Bao Sanniang (20 "good" pics), Sima Shi and Sima Zhao (each of them about 20 "good" pics, mostly shown together or with someone other), Da Qiao and Xiao Qiao (each of them about 20 "good" pics, much of them shown together), Cao Pi (15 "good" pics), Lian Shi (15 "good" pics), Deng Ai (15 "good" pics), Guan Suo 15 "good" pics).

Of course i have rounded off the most of these numbers.
All the other characters have about 5-15 "good" pics.
I have tried to collect the best pics from EVERY character, because i am not so picky/choosy and i think i can say, that i have a good sense of taste.
Edited by ThreeKingdomsWarrior, Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:56 am.
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Ok, is it ok? If I have my speculation here...cuz I really don't want to give any High hopes to others especially to those of Pang De and some other fans, at all right now but....i went to the Koeiwarriors homepage and went to the Dynasty Warriors 7 game information then i read which i will put a quote on it:
"Characters: There will be more than 60 characters in total, new and returning"

Didn't it they say it will consist of 60 - 69 characters or so, well when I looked back at Dynasty Warriors 5 characters total that includes on counting the characters of Pang De and Zuo Ci.

As I did the math of the characters that was on Dynasty Warriors 5 which was a total of 48 Characters that includes the Zuo Ci and Pang De within that total, Then I counted the Characters that are new in Dynasty Warriors 7 which was a total of 16 new Characters. I had added them up all in one which was a total of 63 Characters in all, but some may or may not show until Koei Release the news about all the characters that did not make it in to the Kingdom PV. But, yes if they cut out or 2 characters were cut off like Pang De and Zuo Ci then the total will be now a 62, and don't know what Koei will plan if they do the DLC stuff.

Again, Sorry this is my only speculation or whatever this. Don't get Mad at me.
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You didn't have to do any of that. I thought it was common knowledge on what will sell in Japan and what wont sell in the West and vice versa?

Edit: What the heck?

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=16890130
Edited by SazukeEX, Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:07 am.
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Nida
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You didn't have to do any of that. I thought it was common knowledge on what will sell in Japan and what wont sell in the Wester and vice versa?
Dude, you asked him for proof and he gave it to you :mellow:

But I'd think that even with the link he gave you, that doesn't exactly prove most Westerners hate Bao :P

(I hate her, truthfully, but to prove that's a common opinion is another thing...)
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No, I didn't ask for proof. I asked to be proven wrong because nothing is as satisfying as being proven wrong than coming back for round 2 that in truth shows that you weren't wrong in the first place.

If anything that actually helped my case. It's the other person that denied that Bao Sanniang and Guan Suo are already popular over there but here they don't get much love.

Besides... Bao Sanniang is pretty popular over there. Hell, some of fan art even makes her look half decent.

Some.
Edited by SazukeEX, Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:11 am.
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I lol'd
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ThreeKingdomsWarrior
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:02 am
You didn't have to do any of that. I thought it was common knowledge on what will sell in Japan and what wont sell in the West and vice versa?

Edit: What the heck?

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=16890130
Yeah, i know. But Lambo wanted a proof. He didn't believe, that it is common knowledge.
And somehow, i wanted a proof too. And because of that, i checked it out.

And about your Edit:
:lol: As i said in my post, there are not only "good" pics.
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I would start Kingdom mode with Wu, then Shu, then Wei, then Jin, saving the climax and unification of China for last. :)
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I thought that tights pic was morbid but for some strange reason it was hilarious as well. It also looks like that some of the fanbase is trying to make Guan Suo look even more feminite than really is.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=16862733

That's pretty, I guess?
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:14 am
I thought that tights pic was morbid but for some strange reason it was hilarious as well. It also looks like that some of the fanbase is trying to make Guan Suo look even more feminite than really is.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=16862733

That's pretty, I guess?
I would have guessed that as Nu Wa :lol:
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I thought that tights pic was morbid but for some strange reason it was hilarious as well. It also looks like that some of the fanbase is trying to make Guan Suo look even more feminite than really is.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=16862733

That's pretty, I guess?
I would have guessed that as Nu Wa :lol:
Oh man, that's nothing. I have seen pictures Ooooouuuuuuuuuwwwwww..............they are ruining all my Dynasty Warriors.
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:00 am
Ok, is it ok? If I have my speculation here...cuz I really don't want to give any High hopes to others especially to those of Pang De and some other fans, at all right now but....i went to the Koeiwarriors homepage and went to the Dynasty Warriors 7 game information then i read which i will put a quote on it:
"Characters: There will be more than 60 characters in total, new and returning"

Didn't it they say it will consist of 60 - 69 characters or so, well when I looked back at Dynasty Warriors 5 characters total that includes on counting the characters of Pang De and Zuo Ci.

As I did the math of the characters that was on Dynasty Warriors 5 which was a total of 48 Characters that includes the Zuo Ci and Pang De within that total, Then I counted the Characters that are new in Dynasty Warriors 7 which was a total of 16 new Characters. I had added them up all in one which was a total of 63 Characters in all, but some may or may not show until Koei Release the news about all the characters that did not make it in to the Kingdom PV. But, yes if they cut out or 2 characters were cut off like Pang De and Zuo Ci then the total will be now a 62, and don't know what Koei will plan if they do the DLC stuff.

Again, Sorry this is my only speculation or whatever this. Don't get Mad at me.
Actually the total roster combined from dw 5 with the newbies from dw7 is 64...

I doubt there'd be dlc characters.... I think koei's gonna save characters 'til future iterations... because at the end of the day game developers really make games to provide an income, and if there aren't any new features like some new faces in future adaptations of the game then why bother, because the consumers wouldn't really wanna buy it..... well thats my opinion anyway....

I've been skimming throughout these posts and read somewhere that the wire claws might be returning? ARE THEY?! If so I'm yay-ing my a** off hehe :P :D :dance:
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I thought that tights pic was morbid but for some strange reason it was hilarious as well. It also looks like that some of the fanbase is trying to make Guan Suo look even more feminite than really is.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=16862733

That's pretty, I guess?
I'd hit that.



wait...what? Guan Suo?!



aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
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I have no problem with fan-art tbh
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What Koei means is that it'll be fairly accurate for Shu and Wei with Wu as an afterthought.

Sima Zhao - "After 13 battles I've defeated Shu!"
Soldier - "What about Wu?"
Sima Zhao - "Who?"
Soldier - "The other Kingdom?"
Sima Zhao - "Oooh... Those guys. They've been awefully quiet. I haven't even fought them since Zhuge Dan rebelled and my brother died by my General Wen Yang."
Soldier - "So, are we gonna take another 13 battles to conquer the land?"
Sima Zhao - "Heck no! Those guys die in one battle!"
Soldier - "Might I suggest having Du Yu lead the assault?"
Sima Zhao - "Du Who?"
Hahaha, though in all seriousness I'm really hoping it doesn't turn out like this, even though it seems to be going down that path. :/
Who could forget that Sima Zhao died 2 years after he destroyed Shu?

Where's Sima Yan when you need him?
Off with Du Yu and Wen Yang, doing generic stuff. >.>
As much as it's looking like I'll love this new game, I only have one comment that comes to mind in this scenario.
Fail Koei, just fail.
Didn't notice that anyone replied to my little interpetation.

I really do see Koei ending it with Sima Zhao uniteing the land. They simply lack too many Jin and Late Era Wu adds.

Sima Zhao - "I've come for your head Sun.... Hey! Who rules Wu now?"
Soldier - "Sun Quan does!"
Sima Zhao - "Wait, he's still alive?"
Soldier - "Aren't you?"
Sima Zhao - "....Good point. So, who's still alive under Sun Quan?"
Xiahou Ba - "Allow me."
Wen Yang - "Not even going to ask."
Sima Zhao - "Hush, Wen Yang. Now go on former traitor Xiahou Ba who opposed my brother."
Xiahou Ba - "As I was saying..." *Xiahou Ba swings his head back and glitter appears before his face. He gives an arrogant bishie grin at Wen Yang. "They have Ding Feng left."
Sima Zhao - "That old man? He's still alive?"
Xiahou Ba - "Aren't y-"
Sima Zhao - "Whatever."
Xiahou Ba- "..."
Wen Yang - "..."
Deng Ai - "My lord!"
Sima Zhao - "Deng Ai! You're still alive?!"
Deng Ai - "Aren't you?"
Wen Yang - "Gawd dammit!"
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Why can't Du Yu and Wen Yang and Sun Hao just appear as Generics?
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They'll appear but their story wont be told. Du Yu wont be the one conquering Wu if that's what you're implying. Besides, this an entry of Jin. It's like the early Dynasty Warriors games before their fleshed out.

I for one can't wait to see what hand waving Koei does to try and end the era with Sima Zhao.

Or they can leave it at a cliffhanger like SW1.
Edited by SazukeEX, Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:32 am.
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so Sun Hao will appear instead of Sun Quan, or vice versa?

edit: At the last battle b4 wu surrenders
Edited by GhettoGeneral, Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:33 am.
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If Sima Zhao ends up being the new posterboy, credited as the guy who united china...that would suck.
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so, u'd rather have zhao yun or sima zhao?
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No, I bet it'll be Sun Quan as the Wu Ruler and Sun Hao will be a Generic on the side. Hell, he might not even appear like in Dynasty Warriors 6 a lot of Late Era Generals weren't even in the game as Generics.

The joke in my other post was that Wen Yang was the only guy still alive when they went to conquer Wu while Sima Zhao, Deng Ai, and Xiahou Ba were long dead.
Edited by SazukeEX, Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:36 am.
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