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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
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Oreadia
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So.... I have been on holiday for 2 days ^_^

Anything new and interesting I have missed? lease kindly update :3!
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The release is this week. So it will be a matter of time to find out the news.
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This game is going to be amazing. The online mode will be the most fun part about it I think :) Who's everyones favorite character in the new one?
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saner
Sun Mar 6, 2011 5:13 pm
The release is this week. So it will be a matter of time to find out the news.
what news do you speak of? and did we ever find out what the surprise was?
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if u watch the englesh gameplay its like every npc has there own look thats a improvement
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So is this game actually going to be difficult?

And could someone please enlightenment on what "DW6 difficulty" is? and what "dw6" difficulty is?

Could someone expand on what those exactly entail, and where DW7 falls on that scale.
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:sly: Dw6 was a fail attempt for a reboot of the series and it was not difficult at all dw7 is like thhe 100 times better version of the reboot and yes it will be a challenge if u watch the gp the solders exicute attacks and sratigies the npc's actualy fight back and the machenery can be used by u the charectee butr basucly dw7 it the real dw6 in my eyes dw6 was a testing thing to try new things :sly: :sly:
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Sun Mar 6, 2011 3:28 pm
Conquest Mode might be just Free Mode without battles taken from Story Mode. So it just completely random battle.
I'd be mad as hell if this were the case. Thats not even fun small random battles were it's just small, irrelevent and no hu lao gate killing lu bu with Gan Ning or something. Not being able to play full size battles with my favorite character, that were from story mode, would be very lame I mean they already have clones I hope they don't screw that up.
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Sun Mar 6, 2011 5:54 pm
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Sun Mar 6, 2011 3:28 pm
Conquest Mode might be just Free Mode without battles taken from Story Mode. So it just completely random battle.
I'd be mad as hell if this were the case. Thats not even fun small random battles were it's just small, irrelevent and no hu lao gate killing lu bu with Gan Ning or something. Not being able to play full size battles with my favorite character, that were from story mode, would be very lame I mean they already have clones I hope they don't screw that up.
I think that's not the case. The first gameplay video with Sima Zhao was at the YTR Wei side. The battle started pretty much at that point when you talk to the soldier at the gate in order to start the battle in Kingdom Mode (watch the gameplay vids of Huang Zhong and SSX).

I doubt that this was just some kind of demo level that would be removed in the final version.
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Sun Mar 6, 2011 5:45 pm
So is this game actually going to be difficult?

And could someone please enlightenment on what "DW6 difficulty" is? and what "dw6" difficulty is?

Could someone expand on what those exactly entail, and where DW7 falls on that scale.
Apparently the hardest mode on dw6 was very very hard indeed..

As for people whining about difficulty on this game, people are doing the same thing they always do... We have alot of gameplay vids atm so I’m going to choose 2 of these that i think suit this..

There is this video.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT8H3Pa2Rt8

Where the AI does little to nothing...

And this Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlwWKLQzYVE

Where the AI (mainly Ding Feng) that are owning her a*s..

Now as we can see, the game difficulty is still there but sadly everyone who has very little else to do on this forum are completely ignoring that video (and others aswell tbh) and just thinks the English video is everything and the one and only... This game is still hard.. it could be even harder. It certainly isnt as easy as its shown in the english one..
Edited by Joetri10, Sun Mar 6, 2011 6:02 pm.
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leeson
Sun Mar 6, 2011 5:51 pm
:sly: Dw6 was a fail attempt for a reboot of the series and it was not difficult at all dw7 is like thhe 100 times better version of the reboot and yes it will be a challenge if u watch the gp the solders exicute attacks and sratigies the npc's actualy fight back and the machenery can be used by u the charectee butr basucly dw7 it the real dw6 in my eyes dw6 was a testing thing to try new things :sly: :sly:
how is DW6 any more of a reboot than DW5 DW4 DW3 and DW2? yeah they tried out the Renbu system in 6, but that was all i saw change. i don't think that reboot is the right word to use at all, because a reboot is a total make over, and the only reboot that this series has had has been the shift from 1v1 fighting in DW1 to 1v1000 fighting in DW2.

And if anyone has any common sense they will realize that you can change the difficulty on these games, just like any other game that was ever made, and why people even worry about it blows my mind.
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Sun Mar 6, 2011 5:58 pm
leeson
Sun Mar 6, 2011 5:51 pm
:sly: Dw6 was a fail attempt for a reboot of the series and it was not difficult at all dw7 is like thhe 100 times better version of the reboot and yes it will be a challenge if u watch the gp the solders exicute attacks and sratigies the npc's actualy fight back and the machenery can be used by u the charectee butr basucly dw7 it the real dw6 in my eyes dw6 was a testing thing to try new things :sly: :sly:
how is DW6 any more of a reboot than DW5 DW4 DW3 and DW2? yeah they tried out the Renbu system in 6, but that was all i saw change. i don't think that reboot is the right word to use at all, because a reboot is a total make over, and the only reboot that this series has had has been the shift from 1v1 fighting in DW1 to 1v1000 fighting in DW2.

And if anyone has any common sense they will realize that you can change the difficulty on these games, just like any other game that was ever made, and why people even worry about it blows my mind.
They changed almost every single character radically, they overhauled the combo system, implemented a new skill system, weapon system changed (for the 50th time)..

If that doesn't qualify as a reboot I don't know what does.

The most the previous titles did was redo the battle system (implementation and handling of forts) and change how the weapon/item system worked. For the most part characters stayed about the same, combat stayed about the same, and most of the game was pretty similar.
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leeson
Sun Mar 6, 2011 5:51 pm
:sly: Dw6 was a fail attempt for a reboot of the series and it was not difficult at all dw7 is like thhe 100 times better version of the reboot and yes it will be a challenge if u watch the gp the solders exicute attacks and sratigies the npc's actualy fight back and the machenery can be used by u the charectee butr basucly dw7 it the real dw6 in my eyes dw6 was a testing thing to try new things :sly: :sly:
how is DW6 any more of a reboot than DW5 DW4 DW3 and DW2? yeah they tried out the Renbu system in 6, but that was all i saw change. i don't think that reboot is the right word to use at all, because a reboot is a total make over, and the only reboot that this series has had has been the shift from 1v1 fighting in DW1 to 1v1000 fighting in DW2.

And if anyone has any common sense they will realize that you can change the difficulty on these games, just like any other game that was ever made, and why people even worry about it blows my mind.
when i said reboot i ment the fact of them changing almoast everyones wepon style from lubu to zhang he
it was jus diff as to like u said the renbue but they went with charge style in 1 through 5 but thats my opinion ;) ;)
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RandomGuySaysHi
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leeson
Sun Mar 6, 2011 5:51 pm
:sly: Dw6 was a fail attempt for a reboot of the series and it was not difficult at all dw7 is like thhe 100 times better version of the reboot and yes it will be a challenge if u watch the gp the solders exicute attacks and sratigies the npc's actualy fight back and the machenery can be used by u the charectee butr basucly dw7 it the real dw6 in my eyes dw6 was a testing thing to try new things :sly: :sly:
how is DW6 any more of a reboot than DW5 DW4 DW3 and DW2? yeah they tried out the Renbu system in 6, but that was all i saw change. i don't think that reboot is the right word to use at all, because a reboot is a total make over, and the only reboot that this series has had has been the shift from 1v1 fighting in DW1 to 1v1000 fighting in DW2.

And if anyone has any common sense they will realize that you can change the difficulty on these games, just like any other game that was ever made, and why people even worry about it blows my mind.
The mass clones and lack of musou modes was a huge change for me. Unless that counts but at least the movesets were sort of revamped just renbu F'd everything up for me.Also I agree with you on the discussion on game difficulty. I laugh at those who whine about the difficulty from a PROMOTIONAL VIDEO

Also I use to struggle on Chaos mode on DW 6 with even Lu Bu Maxed out, it wasn't easy and to me was kind of boring. I don't know it's probably just me or every one is trying to seem like they the sh!t and say it was easy.


@Lord Cao Cao: I wasn't questioning the guy but I was simply saying it would be very lame if that were true also that was very early video of Sima Zhao and he didn't even do the whole camp thing and I couldn't tell if that was just the pause screen because it was in japanese they changed a lot of things but I truely hope we can do that.

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Of course it's better. They even said that DW7 would be better after DW6 came out. They were taken be surprise on how much harder it is to develop for the PS3 compared to the PS2. Needless to say we got DW6... Though DW6 Empires was a decent improvement(you know, other than having 0 musous).

There's a reason why the PS2 DW6 had much more content than the PS3/360 DW6 did.
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Sun Mar 6, 2011 5:58 pm
And this Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlwWKLQzYVE

Where the AI (mainly Ding Feng) that are owning her a*s..

Now as we can see, the game difficulty is still there but sadly everyone who has very little else to do on this forum are completely ignoring that video (and others aswell tbh) and just thinks the English video is everything and the one and only... This game is still hard.. it could be even harder. It certainly isnt as easy as its shown in the english one..
I think the mainstream's definition of "owning" and yours are vastly different. Yes, Ding Feng is pretty active in trying to hit Wang Yuanji, and the enemy fodder dog her tail every moment she takes another step, that AI by no means deserves any praise.

DW3 had it perfect. See here. The enemy AI was very aggressive, but they didn't need their damage power multiplied seven times in order to make the game "harder". All the damage troops did back then was small, but you still had to watch out because they attacked. A lot.

Way to be needlessly offensive in your post, BTW.
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Sun Mar 6, 2011 6:17 pm
Of course it's better. They even said that DW7 would be better after DW6 came out. They were taken be surprise on how much harder it is to develop for the PS3 compared to the PS2. Needless to say we got DW6... Though DW6 Empires was a decent improvement(you know, other than having 0 musous).

There's a reason why the PS2 DW6 had much more content than the PS3/360 DW6 did.
Exactly. Koei pretty much admitted guilt in cutting corners on that game, because they were working from the ground up. 7 seems a lot more rounded, and is a more complete product. I know people said 6 improved the series still, but I ask how? It added no new story elements, no stages, characters, modes, and the changes to the fighting system were met with negativity. Sure, the graphics were better. 7 feels like more of a step forward. A new Kingdom. Conquest Mode. So far = win ;)

(This bit isn't aimed at the user I quoted): Stop whining about difficulty, you've only seen Promotional Videos which clearly want to show characters kicking ass, rather than dying. :realangry: I'm 99.99999% sure Chaos Mode will be difficult even on trained up characters.
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Sun Mar 6, 2011 6:20 pm
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Sun Mar 6, 2011 5:58 pm
And this Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlwWKLQzYVE

Where the AI (mainly Ding Feng) that are owning her a*s..

Now as we can see, the game difficulty is still there but sadly everyone who has very little else to do on this forum are completely ignoring that video (and others aswell tbh) and just thinks the English video is everything and the one and only... This game is still hard.. it could be even harder. It certainly isnt as easy as its shown in the english one..
I think the mainstream's definition of "owning" and yours are vastly different. Yes, Ding Feng is pretty active in trying to hit Wang Yuanji, and the enemy fodder dog her tail every moment she takes another step, that AI by no means deserves any praise.

DW3 had it perfect. See here. The enemy AI was very aggressive, but they didn't need their damage power multiplied seven times in order to make the game "harder". All the damage troops did back then was small, but you still had to watch out because they attacked. A lot.

Way to be needlessly offensive in your post, BTW.
Yeah I think that video is kind of a cover up to be honest, I agree with Bamboo. It looks as though it's active but I really didn't see any of the other soldiers really try to attack whatsoever. I don't know if in fact that was an easier difficulty but that was by no means impressive, as Bamboo said.
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Sun Mar 6, 2011 5:58 pm
And this Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlwWKLQzYVE

Where the AI (mainly Ding Feng) that are owning her a*s..

Now as we can see, the game difficulty is still there but sadly everyone who has very little else to do on this forum are completely ignoring that video (and others aswell tbh) and just thinks the English video is everything and the one and only... This game is still hard.. it could be even harder. It certainly isnt as easy as its shown in the english one..
I think the mainstream's definition of "owning" and yours are vastly different. Yes, Ding Feng is pretty active in trying to hit Wang Yuanji, and the enemy fodder dog her tail every moment she takes another step, that AI by no means deserves any praise.

DW3 had it perfect. See here. The enemy AI was very aggressive, but they didn't need their damage power multiplied seven times in order to make the game "harder". All the damage troops did back then was small, but you still had to watch out because they attacked. A lot.

Way to be needlessly offensive in your post, BTW.
Ahhh... yes, every Dw game from 4 and below had AI that made me rage, I’m currently playing Dw4 and omg :kurokan: ... However i wouldn’t exactly put it down to how hard the AI is but how bad the Character your playing is, Peons would always rush hit you and you would get stunned, the AI officers would block SOOO damn much and you are both balanced in stats and lastly the movesets are very lacking in all the over powerness we have now so its hard to really do much before a peon hits you ONCE and you get stunned... Im not really sure how they could make the AI the same as it is in that video with all the new things you can do with your character...
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:hehe: :cool: i liked 5 the most it ballenced everything out and guanping was added in then lol
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Sun Mar 6, 2011 6:26 pm
(This bit isn't aimed at the user I quoted): Stop whining about difficulty, you've only seen Promotional Videos which clearly want to show characters kicking ass, rather than dying. :realangry: I'm 99.99999% sure Chaos Mode will be difficult even on trained up characters.
... Marry me. :heart:

I agree with Frayling; think of how deterring it would be if you were to crank this game up to Chaos Mode, play it in front of people, only to keep getting your sweet little Ancient China Booty handed back to you.

People will complain that the game seems too hard.

Sure, we look at the gameplay videos as pish-posh, but that's because most of us have conditioned ourselves to play through Hard/Chaos without any problems. Not everyone interested in DW7 is familiar with the AI mechanisms, and if the game seems to be too challenging for beginners, they are not going to want to play it. There's a difference between something coming off as a fair challenge or something that doesn't even give neophytes an opportunity to get the swing of things.

I am sure that it was probably just a high-star level in Story mode (if they still do star-rankings), played on either Easy or Normal.
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I personally am not really worried with enemy AI. If I want to crank up the difficulty I can. Not that hard. :mellow:

The thing they do need to improve with AI is allied AI. I swear to god if one of my allies is stuck behind a fence, and can't comprehend that there is something in front of them. I will just throw down the controller, and give up.
Happened to me in DW6:Empires. With an escort mission. I believe it was Guan Ping I had to escort, and he was just DERP. WHAT'S THIS FENCE THING? MAYBE IF I KEEP RUNNING INTO IT....
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Sun Mar 6, 2011 6:37 pm
I personally am not really worried with enemy AI. If I want to crank up the difficulty I can. Not that hard. :mellow:

The thing they do need to improve with AI is allied AI. I swear to god if one of my allies is stuck behind a fence, and can't comprehend that there is something in front of them. I will just throw down the controller, and give up.
Happened to me in DW6:Empires. With an escort mission. I believe it was Guan Ping I had to escort, and he was just DERP. WHAT'S THIS FENCE THING? MAYBE IF I KEEP RUNNING INTO IT....
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haha i kno what u mean lol there retardes or when your fighting they just run in circles and swing every few minutes while your haking at the enemy lol :XD :XD :XD
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9apGWYBvFs

That is pretty much what I'm talking about. That drives me insane.
Then you pretty much have to somehow push them so they go in the right direction.
I shouldn't have to that. :hmmm:
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lol :woot: yeah no serious koei needs to fix that .... :uh: :uh: :hmmm:
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