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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
Topic Started: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:01 pm (735,430 Views)
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WhiteHorseRide
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:15 pm
I wouldn't want her cut either.

I don't want any fans to have reason to complain.

That being said, I want to strangle her.

Shows up prominently in an intro she does not belong, and is a starter character for Shu, an early reveal, is a neko, and is in general being pushed down our throats with everything being considered.

Jesus Christ.
I want her cut so her fans get a taste of what happened to Pang De fans. :whistle:

Just kidding, she seems to be here to stay, so fine. At least I can hope she gets a superior design in the upcoming games. Plus, I can just defeat her over and over alongside her husband with my favorite characters, that'll help. :rolleyes:
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I guess u guys have ur opinions. LOL :rolleyes: But the matter of the fact is...no matter how much u don't like her, she's gonna be in the game. So hey...wat can ya do? I mean sure, shes fictional, but Koei isn't completely known for being completely historical. Females fighting on the battlefield, unorthodox weapons like paintbrushes and harps. So yea...come on guys...shes just ONE new character. I honestly feel we've seen more of Wang Yuanji than Bao.

@UplnMahBubble: Yea...i completely agree with u. I'm not a big fan of Bao or anything, but I honestly don't feel like she's been "shoved" down our throats.
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WhiteHorseRide
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Eni
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:18 pm
WhiteHorseRide
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:15 pm
I wouldn't want her cut either.

I don't want any fans to have reason to complain.

That being said, I want to strangle her.

Shows up prominently in an intro she does not belong, and is a starter character for Shu, an early reveal, is a neko, and is in general being pushed down our throats with everything being considered.

Jesus Christ.
I want her cut so her fans get a taste of what happened to Pang De fans. :whistle:

Just kidding, she seems to be here to stay, so fine. At least I can hope she gets a superior design in the upcoming games. Plus, I can just defeat her over and over alongside her husband with my favorite characters, that'll help. :rolleyes:
Lol word.

I was more or less split between Shu and Wei since the beginning, and always felt conflicted whenever I fought against either one, but I'm converting to full time Wei-ist so I will feel no remorse for beating her up.

:XD
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UpInMahBubble
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:11 pm
ITT: Bao Sanniang getting 10 seconds of screen time in the opening =/= getting forced onto us EVERYWHERE

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Guys here are worthy of facepalms. I don't see Bao getting "shoved" down our throats. I agree with u here. They were bound to promote a new character every new game! I don't see anything wrong with that. And I don't think she's EVERYWHERE.

The hate on her is really annoying because whenever I come in here everyones talking about her.

Koei never shove her down our throats. It's you guys that are doing it.
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Shadowclaimer
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*facepalm*

She's:
Fictional
Lacking Accomplishments
Lacking battle history
Lacking character (she's a generic cutesy wootsy, which is ironic considering people ***** about generic warrior types are loving her)

We could bypass all of this, we haters of her could ignore it entirely, if fans weren't trying to pretend she was anything more than that. She is a GENERIC CUTE CHARACTER put into the game to appease female fans, and it works apparently because you're all willing to defend her to freaking DEATH as soon as anyone says a bit of crap about not liking her you get all "omg how can you not like her she's so kawaiii".

My biggest "shove down our throats" is that she's being featured at Chang Ban apparently, she's the starting unlock character (Zhao Yun fanboys should have their feathers ruffled), and she shows up in the starting movie alongside legit characters with serious history/accomplishments (Zhang Fei/Zhao Yun)

I just don't get it, I really.. just flat out don't get it, of all the characters you choose to defend to death its her.

Edit: I am kinda overexagerrating the shove down the throat bit, but dammit its the fans that are aggravating me more than anything about her.
Edited by Shadowclaimer, Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:28 pm.
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i'll wait till i get the game to decide who i will hate, i havn't seen enough of Bao or other new charactors to hate anyone,
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WhiteHorseRide
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:18 pm
bluebolting
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:15 pm
UpInMahBubble
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:11 pm
ITT: Bao Sanniang getting 10 seconds of screen time in the opening =/= getting forced onto us EVERYWHERE

:facepalm:
I think they're also referring to that she's also the starter character with Liu Bei in Conquest/Chronicle Mode.
That's nothing. If they used that logic then you could say the same for Sima Zhao/Wang Yuanji seeing as they've been used in just about any kind of promotional video.
Sima Zhao and Wang Yuanji are representing a new kingdom.

Sima Zhao is son of an important character, important himself and not utterly fictional. and Wang Yuanji is his wife.

They get a pass.
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Benzod
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I wouldn't mind shoving her down my throat

J/k. The joke was there for the making.

And personally I do feel she has had more screen time that other new adds. Though that feeling is probably just partly down to her being ONE of the most used new characters and being my personal least favourite.
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I'll admit I just overreacting from the heavily Shu centric opening. But man it does get rather replusive everytime seeing Zhao Yun. It's like they're making up for his lost time that was the dw4 opening where he never showed up and it was just Wu and Wei.*takes deep breath*

I will admit Bao, SIma Zhao and Wang Yuanji have been getting a little too much screentime but I'll have to wait for the game to come out to give my full opinion.
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Ugh... Bao Sanniang is Kunoichi..They are pretty much exactly the same and everyone seems to love Kunoichi, rather ironic... How about forgetting the damn fact that she’s fictional and just enjoy it... If you want to play a history game, i suggest ROTK11. Its just a game... :hmmm:
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I'm not bashing anyones opinion but here's why I personally don't like Bao Sanniang

I HATE naive optimists, I deal with that enough IRL and I don't wanna deal with that in a game. I feel as though in a time period of extreme upheaval, naive optimism is out of place.

Also, morons annoy me. She is an air headed loli moron. I actually don't mind fictional characters, Fu Xi and Nu Wa didn't bother me at all. I'm not sexist either, I like female characters more along the lines of Zhen Ji, Wang Yuanji, Xing Cai, Zhu Rong, and sometimes Sun Shang depending on how she is portrayed.

It just boils down to the fact that I personally do not wish to have a complete idiot as my avatar when i run around In my favorite game about my favorite book. This is why I do not like bao, or the qiao sisters or anyone like that. The fact that they take the place of more relevant and possible more interesting characters (depending on how they are portrayed) is more insulting.

Because of how the forum is, I will stress the fact that I am not complaining and that I DO understand its a video game and that they have to market to the audience. I just listed why I PERSONALLY dislike characters like bao to add some other reasons besides blind hate or just because shes a woman or fictional.
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WhiteHorseRide
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You want to swallow her whole? :blink:


Ahem.
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UpInMahBubble
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@Keneticam at least someone agrees. Most people just seem to be jumping on the I hate Bao bandwagon, that got old months ago.

I mean I don't like some characters, but I don't sit and moan about it constantly :p.
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UpInMahBubble
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:18 pm
That's nothing. If they used that logic then you could say the same for Sima Zhao/Wang Yuanji seeing as they've been used in just about any kind of promotional video.
Yes, I hate those two as well now. Especially when Sima Shi is so much cooler than his surfer-looking brother.

But the difference with Bao is still the same : Bao is fictionnal, therefore having Koei trying to sell her as important disgusts me.

Won't stop me from buying the game day 1, but still, it's definately annoying.
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Shadowclaimer
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Joetri10
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:29 pm
Ugh... Bao Sanniang is Kunoichi..They are pretty much exactly the same and everyone seems to love Kunoichi, rather ironic... How about forgetting the damn fact that she’s fictional and just enjoy it... If you want to play a history game, i suggest ROTK11. Its just a game... :hmmm:
Telling people to go play ROTK for realism is like telling someone to "$*$& off" because their opinion is worthless. Its not really the best thing to say. DW has just as much room for realism as it does for fantasy.
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All I know is that I like Bao Sanniang, she's not to blame for Pang De being cut, she was added because KOEI wanted to add her, and for me she's a nice change of pace Shu-wise, rage/hate be damned :3

Also, I also know that I can't wait to play this game for myself, spoilers or not~
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Shadowclaimer
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:24 pm
*facepalm*

She's:
Fictional
Lacking Accomplishments
Lacking battle history
Lacking character (she's a generic cutesy wootsy, which is ironic considering people ***** about generic warrior types are loving her)

We could bypass all of this, we haters of her could ignore it entirely, if fans weren't trying to pretend she was anything more than that. She is a GENERIC CUTE CHARACTER put into the game to appease female fans, and it works apparently because you're all willing to defend her to freaking DEATH as soon as anyone says a bit of crap about not liking her you get all "omg how can you not like her she's so kawaiii".

My biggest "shove down our throats" is that she's being featured at Chang Ban apparently, she's the starting unlock character (Zhao Yun fanboys should have their feathers ruffled), and she shows up in the starting movie alongside legit characters with serious history/accomplishments (Zhang Fei/Zhao Yun)

I just don't get it, I really.. just flat out don't get it, of all the characters you choose to defend to death its her.
Wrongo.
She's not here for us women, she's here for men to drool over. To be blunt; with her stupid cutesy BS and skanky jailbait look, she's everything a pedo, weeaboo or Japanese man could want.
I wish we'd have gotten a real woman for a new Shu add instead of this tart.. :rolleyes:
Edited by Sagittarius, Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:36 pm.
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Shadowclaimer
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The same people who say..

"They shouldn't add more cliche'd badass warrior types to a game called Dynasty Warriors."

Are the ones who are saying..

"Bao Sanniang is a unique character and not cliche' because she's a neko female in anime style and anyone who hates her is wrong."

That's my problem right there.
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i don't particularly mind bao in the game
as long as her death scream is awesome
because
oh boy for me not to mind
i need endless amounts of enjoyment
killing her
with
every
single character
even herself
that being said
im going to be using liu bei first over her
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Darkraids
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:23 pm
UpInMahBubble
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:11 pm
ITT: Bao Sanniang getting 10 seconds of screen time in the opening =/= getting forced onto us EVERYWHERE

:facepalm:
Guys here are worthy of facepalms. I don't see Bao getting "shoved" down our throats. I agree with u here. They were bound to promote a new character every new game! I don't see anything wrong with that. And I don't think she's EVERYWHERE.

The hate on her is really annoying because whenever I come in here everyones talking about her.

Koei never shove her down our throats. It's you guys that are doing it.
Exactly. Haters really exaggerate things too much to the point of stupidity and blind hatred for one who deserves no hate towards them.

Bao Sanniang is on the website because obviously she's a part of Shu like everyone else from Shu. She's seen in some of the gameplay because she's also a part of the selection (and since she's brand new, of course she's going to appear in the Shu trailer along with the other Newcomers).

Of all the trailers, she hasn't really been shown more than any other newcomer or popular returning character.

If anything, Sun Shang Xiang has been showcased more than any other female character (gameplay trailers included) since her reveal, followed by Da Qiao and Lian Shi.

Bao Sanniang is in the opening because the opening is Shu centric and she's the newest female member in Shu (just like Xing Cai appeared in DW5 intro for a bit, celebrating her first appearance in the series.)

I don't recall if Xing Cai has received this much hate during DW5 release, but people should really quit making up thoughts that Bao Sanniang is being forced down their throats, when it's not true, it really degrades the community's so called intelligence.
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:32 pm
Shadowclaimer
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:24 pm
*facepalm*<br /><br />She's:<br />Fictional<br />Lacking Accomplishments<br />Lacking battle history<br />Lacking character (she's a generic cutesy wootsy, which is ironic considering people ***** about generic warrior types are loving her)<br /><br />We could bypass all of this, we haters of her could ignore it entirely, if fans weren't trying to pretend she was anything more than that. She is a GENERIC CUTE CHARACTER put into the game to appease female fans, and it works apparently because you're all willing to defend her to freaking DEATH as soon as anyone says a bit of crap about not liking her you get all "omg how can you not like her she's so kawaiii".<br /><br />My biggest "shove down our throats" is that she's being featured at Chang Ban apparently, she's the starting unlock character (Zhao Yun fanboys should have their feathers ruffled), and she shows up in the starting movie alongside legit characters with serious history/accomplishments (Zhang Fei/Zhao Yun)<br /><br />I just don't get it, I really.. just flat out don't get it, of all the characters you choose to defend to death its her.
Wrongo.<br />She's not here for us women, she's here for men to drool over. To be blunt; with her stupid cutesy BS and skanky jailbait look, she's everything a pdeo, weeaboo or Japanese man could want.<br />I wish we'd have gotten a real woman for a new Shu add instead of this tart.. :rolleyes:
I like you, we can be friends. Anytime I stereotype or reference women you are exempt.
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WhiteHorseRide
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:29 pm
You want to swallow her whole? :blink:


Ahem.
Actually it was supposed to be something a bit more pervy sounding, but I like your way better. :lol:

I see where the whole Kunoichi comparison is coming from, but there's just something about Kuno that makes her seem not as bad. Dispite her fictionality and looks, she still seems to fit somehow. I'm not sure why though. Personally I feel more along the likes to compare her with Gracia instead, despite her being real.
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Shadowclaimer
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:30 pm
Joetri10
Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:29 pm
Ugh... Bao Sanniang is Kunoichi..They are pretty much exactly the same and everyone seems to love Kunoichi, rather ironic... How about forgetting the damn fact that she’s fictional and just enjoy it... If you want to play a history game, i suggest ROTK11. Its just a game... :hmmm:
Telling people to go play ROTK for realism is like telling someone to "$*$& off" because their opinion is worthless. Its not really the best thing to say. DW has just as much room for realism as it does for fantasy.
having opinions is fine but when everyone starts making lists and dedicated death threats to a computer character, it just gets a little sad..

also ( DW has just as much room for realism as it does for fantasy. )

This game is like 80 novel based!!! What do you think your playing?.. Final Fantasy?
Edited by Joetri10, Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:35 pm.
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lol Saggitarius' posts are awesome.

I don't mind female characters. Just make them not terrible and preferably not fictional. Xing Cai meets the first requirement, so I don't mind her.

I looooove Cai Wenji on the other hand. Like in love kinda love. :wub:
Edited by WhiteHorseRide, Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:40 pm.
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