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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
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I'm guessing the stages that were shown don't include the ones where Jin and Wu fought until Jin is unlocked or you play Wu's story?
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:44 pm
I feel like Koei passed up an opportunity in this game honestly, Lian Shi has what appears to be the right personality, but takes 5 steps back with her looks, I'd love to see some more serious female characters in the game (hence as i said previously, Yue Ying and Xing Cai are probably the only females I'll play outside of completionist, I find they have decent personalities, not oversexualised looks, etc.)
I think Yue Ying would've been okay if she didn't keep bringing up the fact that she's a woman. Instead of drawing attention to gender issues she should've focused on what she brings to the table; the angle that Koei decided to give her was inventor. That needed more emphasis.

Xing Cai at least doesn't act that way, but her personality is hard to peg when it's something different every game she appears in.
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:29 pm
I'll admit I just overreacting from the heavily Shu centric opening. But man it does get rather replusive everytime seeing Zhao Yun. It's like they're making up for his lost time that was the dw4 opening where he never showed up and it was just Wu and Wei.*takes deep breath*
...and don't forget Warriors Orochi 2 - I was kind of expecting Zhao Yun to show up somewhere in that opening, but it ended up being Cao Pi getting most of the focus for that opening scene. (a pleasant surprise to starting up DW6 and Strikeforce and seeing Zhao Yun all the time in the openings.

I'm just waiting for the game to be released and hopes it doesn't get pushed back again.
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 9:18 pm
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:44 pm
I feel like Koei passed up an opportunity in this game honestly, Lian Shi has what appears to be the right personality, but takes 5 steps back with her looks, I'd love to see some more serious female characters in the game (hence as i said previously, Yue Ying and Xing Cai are probably the only females I'll play outside of completionist, I find they have decent personalities, not oversexualised looks, etc.)
I think Yue Ying would've been okay if she didn't keep bringing up the fact that she's a woman. Instead of drawing attention to gender issues she should've focused on what she brings to the table; the angle that Koei decided to give her was inventor. That needed more emphasis.

Xing Cai at least doesn't act that way, but her personality is hard to peg when it's something different every game she appears in.
In both games she's been in you mean ;)
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 9:18 pm
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:44 pm
I feel like Koei passed up an opportunity in this game honestly, Lian Shi has what appears to be the right personality, but takes 5 steps back with her looks, I'd love to see some more serious female characters in the game (hence as i said previously, Yue Ying and Xing Cai are probably the only females I'll play outside of completionist, I find they have decent personalities, not oversexualised looks, etc.)
I think Yue Ying would've been okay if she didn't keep bringing up the fact that she's a woman. Instead of drawing attention to gender issues she should've focused on what she brings to the table; the angle that Koei decided to give her was inventor. That needed more emphasis.

Xing Cai at least doesn't act that way, but her personality is hard to peg when it's something different every game she appears in.
In both games she's been in you mean ;)
3 games actually...
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Did I miss any gameplay videos?
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 9:32 pm
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 9:18 pm
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:44 pm
I feel like Koei passed up an opportunity in this game honestly, Lian Shi has what appears to be the right personality, but takes 5 steps back with her looks, I'd love to see some more serious female characters in the game (hence as i said previously, Yue Ying and Xing Cai are probably the only females I'll play outside of completionist, I find they have decent personalities, not oversexualised looks, etc.)
I think Yue Ying would've been okay if she didn't keep bringing up the fact that she's a woman. Instead of drawing attention to gender issues she should've focused on what she brings to the table; the angle that Koei decided to give her was inventor. That needed more emphasis.

Xing Cai at least doesn't act that way, but her personality is hard to peg when it's something different every game she appears in.
In both games she's been in you mean ;)
3 games actually...
I always forget Warriors Orochi exists, and would like to continue that trend <.<
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Jesus, I come back and there is over 5 pages of people ranting and defending Bao. Over a little time in the opening that we already knew she was in seriously! Xing Cai had her short moment in DW5 opening so there no reason why Bao can't have hers.

Anyway, everything is looking nice so far. I'm looking forward to seeing what stages the ladies will have in Kingdom mode. The opening is the best one we have had so far.
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So, is there any stream ou something like that?? i just can't resist, must watch it x.x

sorry for the bad english =X
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 9:52 pm
Xing Cai had her short moment in DW5 opening so there no reason why Bao can't have hers.
1) Xing Cai is an historical character.

2) Xing Cai is ten times less annoying, in her design, DW5 personnality (that's the ony one I know, and since people are saying she's changing it on each game...) and such.

I also guess people are on their nerves because the opening is only shu, shu and shu, with a bit of wei to spice it some more. I mean, giving us almost only shu is already pretty bad, but if they're going to make Bao appears on top of that, it's absolutely awful. Especially portraying her taking a part in Chang Ban when she's merely fictionnal.
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I wish they'd do a full roster rundown, kinda like Street Fighter Alpha 3's in a way.
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Yeah, I can't wait for new spoilers to arrive... What's taking them so long ? :p

Edit : If we get a gameplay video of Bao Sanniang, I'm really gonna rage.
Edited by Solf Aetheral, Mon Mar 7, 2011 10:07 pm.
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 9:52 pm
Xing Cai had her short moment in DW5 opening so there no reason why Bao can't have hers.
1) Xing Cai is an historical character.

2) Xing Cai is ten times less annoying, in her design, DW5 personnality (that's the ony one I know, and since people are saying she's changing it on each game...) and such.

I also guess people are on their nerves because the opening is only shu, shu and shu, with a bit of wei to spice it some more. I mean, giving us almost only shu is already pretty bad, but if they're going to make Bao appears on top of that, it's absolutely awful. Especially portraying her taking a part in Chang Ban when she's merely fictionnal.
Peeshaw. Xing Cai only got married. Nothing more nothing less.
So you're telling me if Xiao Qiao, for example, was in an opening. Doing flips, and destroying thousands there wouldn't be rage? :mellow:

I personally don't believe Bao is getting forced upon us by Koei. But more likely out of the shadows.
Answer me this.
Would you rather see Bao Sanniang and get an actual taste of what she'll be like.
Or would you rather know absolutely nothing about her except her stupid kitty cat musuo? :kurokan:

I like that they are showing off her. She's a new character, she has the liberty to be flaunted, and shown with some dazzle. Yes she is getting it more than other new characters, but hey I'm not complaining.
Anyway I bet if this was Ma Yunlu, fictional warrior type EXACTLY like Bao (Just with different relationships.), this conversation wouldn't be happening.
Edited by dancingswan, Mon Mar 7, 2011 10:08 pm.
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 9:59 pm
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 9:52 pm
Xing Cai had her short moment in DW5 opening so there no reason why Bao can't have hers.
1) Xing Cai is an historical character.

2) Xing Cai is ten times less annoying, in her design, DW5 personnality (that's the ony one I know, and since people are saying she's changing it on each game...) and such.

I also guess people are on their nerves because the opening is only shu, shu and shu, with a bit of wei to spice it some more. I mean, giving us almost only shu is already pretty bad, but if they're going to make Bao appears on top of that, it's absolutely awful. Especially portraying her taking a part in Chang Ban when she's merely fictionnal.
Peeshaw. Xing Cai only got married. Nothing more nothing less.
So you're telling me if Xiao Qiao, for example, was in an opening. Doing flips, and destroying thousands there wouldn't be rage? :mellow:

I personally don't believe Bao is getting forced upon us by Koei. But more likely out of the shadows.
Answer me this.
Would you rather see Bao Sanniang and get an actual taste of what she'll be like.
Or would you rather know absolutely nothing about her except her stupid kitty cat musuo? :kurokan:

I like that they are showing off her. She's a new character, she has the liberty to be flaunted, and shown with some dazzle. Yes she is getting it more than other new characters, but hey I'm not complaining.
Anyway I bet if this was Ma Yunlu, fictional warrior type EXACTLY like Bao (Just with different relationships.), this conversation wouldn't be happening.
Ma Yanlu would be overdone as a female Zhao Yun, which would upset me greatly.

I would be even more mad if we had Mr. and Mrs. Zhao Yun in the opening..
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 10:07 pm
Yeah, I can't wait for new spoilers to arrive... What's taking them so long ? :p

Edit : If we get a gameplay video of Bao Sanniang, I'm really gonna rage.
What if its a Bao video and it turns out she's really fun to play as?
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celestial just started it all over again :o
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Has anyone uploaded the Zhao Yun gameplay to youtube yet? Also, am I correct in assuming there are 50 different maps this time?
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Hmm... should I get the import today?...
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Xing Cai had her short moment in DW5 opening so there no reason why Bao can't have hers.
1) Xing Cai is an historical character.

2) Xing Cai is ten times less annoying, in her design, DW5 personnality (that's the ony one I know, and since people are saying she's changing it on each game...) and such.

I also guess people are on their nerves because the opening is only shu, shu and shu, with a bit of wei to spice it some more. I mean, giving us almost only shu is already pretty bad, but if they're going to make Bao appears on top of that, it's absolutely awful. Especially portraying her taking a part in Chang Ban when she's merely fictionnal.
Peeshaw. Xing Cai only got married. Nothing more nothing less.
So you're telling me if Xiao Qiao, for example, was in an opening. Doing flips, and destroying thousands there wouldn't be rage? :mellow:

I personally don't believe Bao is getting forced upon us by Koei. But more likely out of the shadows.
Answer me this.
Would you rather see Bao Sanniang and get an actual taste of what she'll be like.
Or would you rather know absolutely nothing about her except her stupid kitty cat musuo? :kurokan:

I like that they are showing off her. She's a new character, she has the liberty to be flaunted, and shown with some dazzle. Yes she is getting it more than other new characters, but hey I'm not complaining.
Anyway I bet if this was Ma Yunlu, fictional warrior type EXACTLY like Bao (Just with different relationships.), this conversation wouldn't be happening.
I would rage as much with Ma Yunlu actually.

Xing Cai still did exist, and we don't have much info on her life. Which is why I'm fine with Koei romanizing it. The character they've made her into looks pretty solid in DW7.

@Sum Gal

I'd still hate her. I'm a scenario loving freak, and in all kind of games, I've always used characters for their looks and development rather than movesets or weapons.

Oh, besides, a fun thing is pretty subjective. I can't have fun in a DW game playing with a fictionnal character, for my part.
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 9:52 pm
Xing Cai had her short moment in DW5 opening so there no reason why Bao can't have hers.
1) Xing Cai is an historical character.

2) Xing Cai is ten times less annoying, in her design, DW5 personnality (that's the ony one I know, and since people are saying she's changing it on each game...) and such.

I also guess people are on their nerves because the opening is only shu, shu and shu, with a bit of wei to spice it some more. I mean, giving us almost only shu is already pretty bad, but if they're going to make Bao appears on top of that, it's absolutely awful. Especially portraying her taking a part in Chang Ban when she's merely fictionnal.
Peeshaw. Xing Cai only got married. Nothing more nothing less.
So you're telling me if Xiao Qiao, for example, was in an opening. Doing flips, and destroying thousands there wouldn't be rage? :mellow:

I personally don't believe Bao is getting forced upon us by Koei. But more likely out of the shadows.
Answer me this.
Would you rather see Bao Sanniang and get an actual taste of what she'll be like.
Or would you rather know absolutely nothing about her except her stupid kitty cat musuo? :kurokan:

I like that they are showing off her. She's a new character, she has the liberty to be flaunted, and shown with some dazzle. Yes she is getting it more than other new characters, but hey I'm not complaining.
Anyway I bet if this was Ma Yunlu, fictional warrior type EXACTLY like Bao (Just with different relationships.), this conversation wouldn't be happening.
Ma Yanlu would be overdone as a female Zhao Yun, which would upset me greatly.

I would be even more mad if we had Mr. and Mrs. Zhao Yun in the opening..
I only brought up Ma Yunlu, mainly because she is a wanted character by some and is just as fictional as Bao. OH THE IRONY. :kurokan:

I think they just want Yun to get some in the bed. :rolleyes:

Yunlu would be exactly like Zhao Yun. Which would be infuriating. :mellow:
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do we know someting new about dlc
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Xing Cai had her short moment in DW5 opening so there no reason why Bao can't have hers.
1) Xing Cai is an historical character.

2) Xing Cai is ten times less annoying, in her design, DW5 personnality (that's the ony one I know, and since people are saying she's changing it on each game...) and such.

I also guess people are on their nerves because the opening is only shu, shu and shu, with a bit of wei to spice it some more. I mean, giving us almost only shu is already pretty bad, but if they're going to make Bao appears on top of that, it's absolutely awful. Especially portraying her taking a part in Chang Ban when she's merely fictionnal.
1.) Xing Cai is fictional(Although I believe she is the elder daughter.) She is both of Zhang Fei's daughters combined.(In DW5 but this may change in DW7 depending on what her Bio says.)

2.) Thats a matter of opinion.

Okay so I see your problem( as well as others) seems to come from her being fictional, which is understandable. By her being fictional they can have her in Chang Ban doing what ever they please really. I'm sure it was only for opening though.
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Xing Cai had her short moment in DW5 opening so there no reason why Bao can't have hers.
1) Xing Cai is an historical character.

2) Xing Cai is ten times less annoying, in her design, DW5 personnality (that's the ony one I know, and since people are saying she's changing it on each game...) and such.

I also guess people are on their nerves because the opening is only shu, shu and shu, with a bit of wei to spice it some more. I mean, giving us almost only shu is already pretty bad, but if they're going to make Bao appears on top of that, it's absolutely awful. Especially portraying her taking a part in Chang Ban when she's merely fictionnal.
1.) Xing Cai is fictional(Although I believe she is the elder daughter.) She is both of Zhang Fei's daughters combined.(In DW5 but this may change in DW7 depending on what her Bio says.)

2.) Thats a matter of opinion.

Okay so I see your problem( as well as others) seems to come from her being fictional, which is understandable. By her being fictional they can have her in Chang Ban doing what ever they please really. I'm sure it was only for opening though.
1) She still has an historical base. As long as I feel I'm using someone who did exist, It's cool.

2) Valid point, yet, she's unbearable, and that's the first character I'm classifying as such.
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sorry if this was already posted http://gdc.gamespot.com/video/6302218/
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 10:09 pm
celestial just started it all over again :o
:hehe: Sorry if this had died down but I just wanted to give my opinion on the matter.

I have to agree with Swan. If it was Ma Yanlu with the same design as Bao most people would be jumping threw hoops just because its her. Plus I'm sure her story would basicly the same as Bao.
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