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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
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Mon Mar 7, 2011 11:11 pm
Just a little thing i noticed in the Xiahou Dun gameplay (the only one i have watched).
If it wasn't brought up already.
He used the axe as his secondary weapon. He used it with his left hand.
I didn't knew/noticed yet, that Dian Wei is a left-handed.
Is there anyone else in DW, who is left-handed?
The feather fan users are left handed I believe.
I know that Zhuge Liang is.

I think it's interesting to add left handed weapons. This makes me think...
Are all character ambidextrous? :kurokan:
According to the screenshots (and videos), the fan feather users (Zhuge Liang, Sima Yi and Zhuge Danny the Dog), the throwing knife users (Wang Yuanji and Zhu Rong) and the monk staff users (Pang Tong and Zhang Jiao) are all left-hander.

The other characters are right-hander and ambidextrous.
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Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:18 am
Okay, so I'm really just sick and tired of all this Bao Sanniang hate, and also, very much so, the Guan Suo hate. First off, none of you have even played the game, so, you don't even know if you will like them, it's very silly to say they suck etc etc when you hardly even know what they'll be like. Secondly, their relationship will be very original and new, it will be fresh and will revolutionize the relationships in DW. They're both very young and BSS has quite the spunky personality, it will add a lot to their relationship, given how calm Guan Suo looks, much like how Wang Yuanji and Sima Zhao's relationship, will also help to change the future relationships of DW and help them become better and more interesting, just not as much as Bao Sanniang and Guan Suo. Both of them also have really good weapons, Yo-yo, it looks downright cool, and the nunchaku, which no one had any issue with when Ling Tong had it in DW5, now come DW7 some people have a problem with it? Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? Also their designs go further in the direction that DW should be taking, both appeal to the opposite sexes perfectly, so everyone is happy, the one pallet colour schemes are a great idea, no longer will we be confused as to which force someone belongs to! They're designs are just great, especially Guan Suo, a nice pop of colour with the flower, and some downright nice hair. Same compliment to BSS, you cannot hate the hair, thats practically blasphemous. Who cares about some dumb old guys who did stuff in history. THATS BORING! With fictional characters Koei has far more freedom to do what they want, and they can expand their life span, making more characters who up for later era battles, it's really perfect, historical guys add almost nothing to the story, since they're limited to their life spans. Fictional characters didn't do anything? So what? Make up stuff, they're fictional after, all, BSS holds the most potential over all the other new characters, for the simple fact that she is fictional, it's a fact.

I'm really surprised so many people are hating on them. One would think the more characters for Shu, the best Kingdom of all (come one, there is no denying it) the better, particularly two fine ones such as these, who will be having a stunning relationship you only wish you could have.

Sorry to bring back such a topic, I just had to get it off my chest.

Ive played the game... one of the first few stages of Chronicle Mode has you using Guan Suo and BS follows you the entire stage, with almost a constant barrage of chatter the entire time... and she brings a panda with her. Its annoying as hell in Japanese, its going to be painful when her nonstop rambling occurs in that atrocious English voice.

And I think people have a problem with the fact that such a unique weapon as nunchaku, Ling Tongs trademark, was senselessly thrown on Guan Suo. Not that nunchucks became uncool all of a sudden.
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Why must the 10th be so close yet so far away? :(
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Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:22 am
Paragraphs please?

Also, first impressions are everything. Apparantly Bao Sanniang and Guan Suo made many bad first impressions. Thus they will get far more hate than the Qiao have ever gotten and much of that hate, in my view, is well deserved. Especially when it's applied to Bao Sanniang.

Shu the best Kingdom? Not in everyones eyes and really. Shu only gets all that attention because the Novel was heavily Shu-Bias.

I mean, it's a sad thing when Koei thinks it's okay to end Era with the Fall of Shu and not the Fall of Wu.
let me just add on how importany paragraphs are. it was the deciding factor of me not wanting to read that loooonnnng what i assume was a rant
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Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:18 am
Okay, so I'm really just sick and tired of all this Bao Sanniang hate, and also, very much so, the Guan Suo hate. First off, none of you have even played the game, so, you don't even know if you will like them, it's very silly to say they suck etc etc when you hardly even know what they'll be like. Secondly, their relationship will be very original and new, it will be fresh and will revolutionize the relationships in DW. They're both very young and BSS has quite the spunky personality, it will add a lot to their relationship, given how calm Guan Suo looks, much like how Wang Yuanji and Sima Zhao's relationship, will also help to change the future relationships of DW and help them become better and more interesting, just not as much as Bao Sanniang and Guan Suo. Both of them also have really good weapons, Yo-yo, it looks downright cool, and the nunchaku, which no one had any issue with when Ling Tong had it in DW5, now come DW7 some people have a problem with it? Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? Also their designs go further in the direction that DW should be taking, both appeal to the opposite sexes perfectly, so everyone is happy, the one pallet colour schemes are a great idea, no longer will we be confused as to which force someone belongs to! They're designs are just great, especially Guan Suo, a nice pop of colour with the flower, and some downright nice hair. Same compliment to BSS, you cannot hate the hair, thats practically blasphemous. Who cares about some dumb old guys who did stuff in history. THATS BORING! With fictional characters Koei has far more freedom to do what they want, and they can expand their life span, making more characters who up for later era battles, it's really perfect, historical guys add almost nothing to the story, since they're limited to their life spans. Fictional characters didn't do anything? So what? Make up stuff, they're fictional after, all, BSS holds the most potential over all the other new characters, for the simple fact that she is fictional, it's a fact.

I'm really surprised so many people are hating on them. One would think the more characters for Shu, the best Kingdom of all (come one, there is no denying it) the better, particularly two fine ones such as these, who will be having a stunning relationship you only wish you could have.

Sorry to bring back such a topic, I just had to get it off my chest.

Ive played the game... one of the first few stages of Chronicle Mode has you using Guan Suo and BS follows you the entire stage, with almost a constant barrage of chatter the entire time... and she brings a panda with her. Its annoying as hell in Japanese, its going to be painful when her nonstop rambling occurs in that atrocious English voice.

And I think people have a problem with the fact that such a unique weapon as nunchaku,@Ling@Tongs trademark, was senselessly thrown on Guan Suo.@Not that nunchucks became uncool all of a sudden.
it sounds like a fun change. but if that happens every battle it would get annoying.
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Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:25 am
Ive played the game... one of the first few stages of Chronicle Mode has you using Guan Suo and BS follows you the entire stage, with almost a constant barrage of chatter the entire time... and she brings a panda with her. Its annoying as hell in Japanese, its going to be painful when her nonstop rambling occurs in that atrocious English voice.
Well technically there are tons of conquest mode battles where the person follows you.
Not awhile back with the conquest mode gameplay with Wang Yuanji
Zhang He followed her. So is Zhang He the annoying follower wife of Yuanji? :mellow:
Edited by dancingswan, Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:29 am.
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Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:25 am
Why must the 10th be so close yet so far away? :(
your horrible most of us have to wait till the end of the month :mellow:
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Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:25 am
Ive played the game... one of the first few stages of Chronicle Mode has you using Guan Suo and BS follows you the entire stage, with almost a constant barrage of chatter the entire time... and she brings a panda with her. Its annoying as hell in Japanese, its going to be painful when her nonstop rambling occurs in that atrocious English voice.
Well technically there are tons of conquest mode battles where the person follows you.
Not awhile back with the conquest mode gameplay with Wang Yuanji
Zhang He followed her. So is Zhang He the annoying follower wife of Yuanji? :mellow:
Ha! A battle of nonstop gibbering from Zhang Hes voice actor? That would certainly be painful as well.
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Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:25 am
Ive played the game... one of the first few stages of Chronicle Mode has you using Guan Suo and BS follows you the entire stage, with almost a constant barrage of chatter the entire time... and she brings a panda with her. Its annoying as hell in Japanese, its going to be painful when her nonstop rambling occurs in that atrocious English voice.
Well technically there are tons of conquest mode battles where the person follows you.
Not awhile back with the conquest mode gameplay with Wang Yuanji
Zhang He followed her. So is Zhang He the annoying follower wife of Yuanji? :mellow:
Ha! A battle of nonstop gibbering from Zhang Hes voice actor? That would certainly be painful as well.
That was beautifull lllletttss be beauuuttifuuulll onnnn the batttlefield together like a beautiful floweerrrrrr. ya id prefer bao's chipmunk self
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Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:18 am
Okay, so I'm really just sick and tired of all this Bao Sanniang hate, and also, very much so, the Guan Suo hate. First off, none of you have even played the game, so, you don't even know if you will like them, it's very silly to say they suck etc etc when you hardly even know what they'll be like. Secondly, their relationship will be very original and new, it will be fresh and will revolutionize the relationships in DW. They're both very young and BSS has quite the spunky personality, it will add a lot to their relationship, given how calm Guan Suo looks, much like how Wang Yuanji and Sima Zhao's relationship, will also help to change the future relationships of DW and help them become better and more interesting, just not as much as Bao Sanniang and Guan Suo. Both of them also have really good weapons, Yo-yo, it looks downright cool, and the nunchaku, which no one had any issue with when Ling Tong had it in DW5, now come DW7 some people have a problem with it? Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? Also their designs go further in the direction that DW should be taking, both appeal to the opposite sexes perfectly, so everyone is happy, the one pallet colour schemes are a great idea, no longer will we be confused as to which force someone belongs to! They're designs are just great, especially Guan Suo, a nice pop of colour with the flower, and some downright nice hair. Same compliment to BSS, you cannot hate the hair, thats practically blasphemous. Who cares about some dumb old guys who did stuff in history. THATS BORING! With fictional characters Koei has far more freedom to do what they want, and they can expand their life span, making more characters who up for later era battles, it's really perfect, historical guys add almost nothing to the story, since they're limited to their life spans. Fictional characters didn't do anything? So what? Make up stuff, they're fictional after, all, BSS holds the most potential over all the other new characters, for the simple fact that she is fictional, it's a fact.

I'm really surprised so many people are hating on them. One would think the more characters for Shu, the best Kingdom of all (come one, there is no denying it) the better, particularly two fine ones such as these, who will be having a stunning relationship you only wish you could have.

Sorry to bring back such a topic, I just had to get it off my chest.

Enough! KOEI should just cut the useless wastes of space that are Suo and Bao. Honestly jut end these obsessive fandom posts. Aside from being TOTALLY FICTIONAL (I mean honestly what's next adding god damn spongebob), they look dreadfully dull and generic. An they're wearing monotonous green, yes we get that they're Shu's new love couple but you don't need to shove that down our throats so much. Don't get me started on the personalities I can totally tell they're getting. Airehead pretty boy and airhead sallee. Yawn. And I can actually believe you dared compare them to Sima Zhao and Wang Yuanji, they're entirely different. Does historical relevance mean nothin to you! Honestly why can't KOEI just give the majority of fans what they want, Liao Hua! He's got so much more potential and story. Please just stop fanboying constantly over characters that no one wanted in the first place. They are not real. They have no place in a history based game like DW.

Just gets to me how much useless love is directed at these trainwrecks of characters.
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Technically Guan Suo was in the Novel. Though I don't like the direction they took him and it seems that they're merging some of Xing into him.
Edited by SazukeEX, Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:42 am.
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Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:18 am
Okay, so I'm really just sick and tired of all this Bao Sanniang hate, and also, very much so, the Guan Suo hate. First off, none of you have even played the game, so, you don't even know if you will like them, it's very silly to say they suck etc etc when you hardly even know what they'll be like. Secondly, their relationship will be very original and new, it will be fresh and will revolutionize the relationships in DW. They're both very young and BSS has quite the spunky personality, it will add a lot to their relationship, given how calm Guan Suo looks, much like how Wang Yuanji and Sima Zhao's relationship, will also help to change the future relationships of DW and help them become better and more interesting, just not as much as Bao Sanniang and Guan Suo. Both of them also have really good weapons, Yo-yo, it looks downright cool, and the nunchaku, which no one had any issue with when Ling Tong had it in DW5, now come DW7 some people have a problem with it? Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? Also their designs go further in the direction that DW should be taking, both appeal to the opposite sexes perfectly, so everyone is happy, the one pallet colour schemes are a great idea, no longer will we be confused as to which force someone belongs to! They're designs are just great, especially Guan Suo, a nice pop of colour with the flower, and some downright nice hair. Same compliment to BSS, you cannot hate the hair, thats practically blasphemous. Who cares about some dumb old guys who did stuff in history. THATS BORING! With fictional characters Koei has far more freedom to do what they want, and they can expand their life span, making more characters who up for later era battles, it's really perfect, historical guys add almost nothing to the story, since they're limited to their life spans. Fictional characters didn't do anything? So what? Make up stuff, they're fictional after, all, BSS holds the most potential over all the other new characters, for the simple fact that she is fictional, it's a fact.

I'm really surprised so many people are hating on them. One would think the more characters for Shu, the best Kingdom of all (come one, there is no denying it) the better, particularly two fine ones such as these, who will be having a stunning relationship you only wish you could have.

Sorry to bring back such a topic, I just had to get it off my chest.

Enough! KOEI should just cut the useless wastes of space that are Suo and Bao. Honestly jut end these obsessive fandom posts. Aside from being TOTALLY FICTIONAL (I mean honestly what's next adding god damn spongebob), they look dreadfully dull and generic. An they're wearing monotonous green, yes we get that they're Shu's new love couple but you don't need to shove that down our throats so much. Don't get me started on the personalities I can totally tell they're getting. Airehead pretty boy and airhead sallee. Yawn. And I can actually believe you dared compare them to Sima Zhao and Wang Yuanji, they're entirely different. Does historical relevance mean nothin to you! Honestly why can't KOEI just give the majority of fans what they want, Liao Hua! He's got so much more potential and story. Please just stop fanboying constantly over characters that no one wanted in the first place. They are not real. They have no place in a history based game like DW.

Just gets to me how much useless love is directed at these trainwrecks of characters.
Whats with this shoving down of the throats? one person says it and suddenly everyone starts agreeing for the 5th time to the 7th person bao hasnt gotten all that much screen time so shes hardly down are throats. and guan i wouldnt of even known existed unless i went on the home page of this site and checked. and i would much rather have these two characters then have 2 less new characters
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I always find the 'fictional hate' to be a strange thing... not just for Bao, but for any of them.

Someone mentioned earlier that Bao's story was nothing more than ancient fan fiction...But RotTK is really nothing more than historical fan-fiction itself. One is hardly more definitive than the other. (although from what I know of the story Bao's character is completely different in DW7)

Now granted, I'm not really a fan of Bao's at all. The design screams fanservice, as does the overly cutesy personality. But that's hardly a knock, being that there are several beefcake fanservice characters added as well, like Sima Zhao.

Anyways, you know... I was watching that Zhao Yun gameplay vid linked a few pages back and I got to wondering something. The greatsword is apparently male only... but the giant club (which Wang Yuan Ji has in said gameplay movie) isn't gender biased. I find that situation utterly wrong.

I can see why they might restrict the whip, what with its moveset being all sexy-dancer styled, but in DW6E it was a simple enough matter to make a male with a whip...

I just don't see the purpose of this gender restricted weapon system... especially when it seems to apply to only two weapons :facepalm:
Edited by Krescentwolf, Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:45 am.
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Bao Sanniang had no right to be at Chang Ban. That was Zhang Fei and Zhao Yun's glory not hers. Than she went up and stole one of the things that Zhao Yun did which was ensureing that Liu Shan returned to Liu Bei. If anything Zhao Yun fans should be crying foul over being forced to bear such an unbearable insult.
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Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:43 am
I always find the 'fictional hate' to be a strange thing... not just for Bao, but for any of them.

Someone mentioned earlier that Bao's story was nothing more than ancient fan fiction...But RotTK is really nothing more than historical fan-fiction itself.

Now granted, I'm not really a fan of Bao's at all. The design screams fanservice, as does the overly cutesy personality. But that's hardly a knock, being that there are several beefcake fanservice characters added as well, like Sima Zhao.

Anyways, you know... I was watching that Zhao Yun gameplay vid linked a few pages back and I got to wondering something. The greatsword is apparently male only... but the giant club (which Wang Yuan Ji has in said gameplay movie) isn't gender biased. I find that situation utterly wrong.

I can see why they might restrict the whip, what with its mvoeset being all sexy-dancer styled, but in DW6E it was a simple enough matter to make a male with a whip...

I just don't see the purpose of this gender restricted weapon system... especially when it seems to apply to only two weapons :facepalm:
ya in the older games you were able to create a character thats a girl and give her a greatsword
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Am I the only one who thinks that Lambo's actually trolling the board ? He's/she's using pretty intense terms ->

"Who cares about some dumb old guys who did stuff in history."

"Secondly, their relationship will be very original and new, it will be fresh and will revolutionize the relationships in DW"

"the best Kingdom of all (come one, there is no denying it) the better, particularly two fine ones such as these, who will be having a stunning relationship you only wish you could have."

Those are way too extreme. I mean, if someone really thought that way, his I.Q would be under 30, at best.

I'm pretty sure he/she's having a great time mocking Bao and Guan Suo. And it's pretty well written.

edit : I agree on Sima Zhao looking like to be a poor character. His design sucks, his personnality seems like it'll make me puke... He's not supposed to be cool and such, he was a damn bastard in history.

He deserved more than that anyway, Koei really messed him up.
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Bao Sanniang had no right to be at Chang Ban. That was Zhang Fei and Zhao Yun's glory not hers. Than she went up and stole one of the things that Zhao Yun did which was ensureing that Liu Shan returned to Liu Bei. If anything Zhao Yun fans should be crying foul over being forced to bear such an unbearable insult.
i agree bao shoulda just not been there so that liu shan fell off the waterfall and drowned.
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Sorry Benzod, but I gotta back up Lambo. :kurokan:

Bao Sanniang and Guan Suo aren't "trainwrecks."
Yes they may be fictional, but they actually weren't concocted by Koei.
At least we didn't get Zhao Yun's imaginary lover, and some warrior who thinks he's almighty and such.
Bao Sanniang adds a comtempary girly humor to the ranks of Shu. But she doesn't hide her warriors skills. She has amazing acrobatic skills, and jumped off a cliff just to save Liu Shan. She's not just some "I'M ADORABLE. DERP" girl. She's does more things than just cat poses, and meows.
She fights. She's heroic. She's flippin' Bao Sanniang.

Whitehorse - I understand you don't like Liu Shan. But come on. It's a baby, that's just disgusting and vulgar. :mellow:
Edited by dancingswan, Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:50 am.
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I decided that its a good thing that people are complaining about such stupid things in dw7 it just means theres just not enough real issues with the game to be upset about.
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Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:46 am
i agree bao shoulda just not been there so that liu shan fell off the waterfall and drowned.
Now that would be interesting. So we wouldn't have to bear with Liu Chan being portrayed as a good leader, against both history and the novel.
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It seems like He Fei Castle has been removed again. What a shame, I was hoping it would Cao Pi stage.
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Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:48 am
Sorry Benzod, but I gotta back up Lambo. :kurokan:

Bao Sanniang and Guan Suo aren't "trainwrecks."
Yes they may be fictional, but they actually weren't concocted by Koei.
At least we didn't get Zhao Yun's imaginary lover, and some warrior who thinks he's almighty and such.
Bao Sanniang adds a comtempary girly humor to the ranks of Shu. But she doesn't hide her warriors skills. She has amazing acrobatic skills, and jumped off a cliff just to save Liu Shan. She's not just some "I'M ADORABLE. DERP" girl. She's does more things than just cat poses, and meows.
She fights. She's heroic. She's flippin' Bao Sanniang.
I totaly agree with you gosh leave the poor girl alone aready yall should be talking about that blonde hair bimbo Wang Yuan Ji :realangry:
Edited by Divine Grace, Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:52 am.
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Koei just added some spices and tweaks to the original story. Seriously, I don't really like when things gone too far away from the real history, but this small things is still okay for me. Bao Sanniang in Chang Ban, why not? Zhao Yun and Zhang Fei still doing the main actions, anyway. What about Mitsuhide and Nobunaga meet each other in Honnoji and Mitsuhide killed Nobunaga by his own hand (and even the opposite)? They say Nobunaga prefer to burn himself in the temple rather than his head taken. But, hell, it's a story spice. Koei did a lot of this kind of thing, though some I don't really like it.
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I really hope you didn't just slander Wen Yang. Believe me, you don't want to start that. After all, he's far more relevant to the stage than Bao Sanniang which the Era doesn't even need to be complete. However the deah of Sima Shi is essential to how things went and Wen Yang played a huge part in that.

At least Ma Yunlu would actually wear armor not just a bikini and think that's A-okay!

From what I've seen of Bao Sanniang thus far she's...

1) Annoying
2) Hyper Active Disorder
3) Terrible Loli Voice
4) Dresses like a wannabe Concuebine
5) Is extremely girly and lets face it. Girly doesn't suit he battlefield. She's worse than both of the Qiao's were at their lowest.
6) She lacks an interesting story other than following Guan Suo.
7) Koei is forceing her upon fans by includeing her in battles that didn't have her nor needed her at all. Such as stealing Zhao Yun's thunder at Chang Ban.
8) Musou is simply annoying fanservice at its worst. It's a big hit in Japan but here? I'm sure any self-respecting fan would expect more from Koei.
9) Any of her 'awesome' moments aren't that awesome and end up sapping away the 'awesome' away from what other characters did such as Zhao Yun.
10) Simply put she's in and many more relevant characters aren't. That's more than reason enough to despise her.
Edited by SazukeEX, Tue Mar 8, 2011 12:57 am.
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yall should be talking about that blonde hair bimbo Wang Yuan Ji :realangry:
Why the hell ? She's not fictionnal, and while her design is fanservice as well (what the hell with that cleavage), it's clearly better and her personnality seems at least ten times less annoying.

Bao sounds and acts like an idiot, and I'm tired of those characters you get as main characters in every damn shonen in the world.

Anyway, Sasuke's 10th point wins the whole debate... Adding Bao when you could add Wen Yang, Xu Sheng, Cheng Pu or many others is a blasphemy.
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