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| ChibiGingi | Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:54 am Post #7676 |
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Booyaka, Booyaka
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Well, when Taishi Ci, Zhou Tai and Ding Feng could have been inserted in one of the various Sun Ce, Gan Ning or Lu Xun (who all have at least two, three each), and had been of the same output or even given a more interesting take on the level itself. Just seems lazy. Not a game breaker (for me), but it gives me the impression that Koei did Wu's story mode last. They were so caught up with the new Kingdom smell of Jin that they realized that there was another kingdom somewhere in there. "Guys, look how awesome this new kingdom is! It has Sima Yi's children, a snotty brat who can control swords with telekenesis, Justin Bieber in armor. Aw man, they're so SWEET!" "Uh, what do you want to do with this kingdom? *holds up plans for Wu's story* I mean, it does have one of our favorites, Taishi Ci." "Screw them, WE GOT DENG AI!" ... To be fair, I love Deng Ai. Just... not sure why he's in Jin, but that's beating a dead horse here. |
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| zhuoran92 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:54 am Post #7677 |
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Zhang Fei is not, Guan Yu's comment to Cao Cao can not be really taken as face level. Guan Yu was really being humble and trying to talk up his brother before their future enemy. It's hard to compare the two brothers, because they never fight/duel against each other... but Guan Yu is more skilled in commanding. And while in the novel, it took all three brothers to beat LU Bu, that is BS! in history lu bu can even beat several assassins, and have to run away from them. He's not that strong like in the novel. However, one of his commander, Gao SHun, is gravely underestimated. |
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| zhuoran92 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:55 am Post #7678 |
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Deng Ai is in Jin because he really fights for the sima family, not cao wei. |
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| YumichiHeart | Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:56 am Post #7679 |
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Wei's Elite
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Pretty much how i feel, Wen Yang is a dream add for Jin. Wen Yang is extremely underrated imo. The fact Wen Yang could do what he did at an early age is quite impressive, Wen Yang has a lot of potential seeing as how they favor Shu with Jin close second, Wen Yang could be one of the best Jin adds and possible candidates along with Sima Yan for DW8, or DLC/Empires. |
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| SilentNinja | Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:57 am Post #7680 |
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Changshan Savior
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He's overrated in the entire 3kingdom media next to Kongming(and Ma Chao, see SD Gundam Sangokuden....) Maybe now, I know why Pang De didn't make the cut here. Edited by SilentNinja, Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:58 am.
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| Paragon of Light | Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:58 am Post #7681 |
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The Comeback King
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Also Xiahou Ba in Jin? You don't get to play the bastard before he defects to Shu. And so true Chibi I can imagine a conversation between a soldier and Sima Zhao. Soldier: Congratulations on your conquest of Shu, my lord. What are your plans for Wu? Sima Zhao: Who? Soldier: Eastern Wu. The country to the south. THey've been harassing us for a while. Sima Zhao: Meh, they're not worth the screentime. Soldier: What is this "screentime"? Edited by Paragon of Light, Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:00 am.
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| ChibiGingi | Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:59 am Post #7682 |
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Pang De wouldn't have gotten a level anyway, even if he was included. Apparently dragging your coffin to a duel with the God of War isn't worthy of anything besides a casual shrug and "that's cool, I guess..." @Paragon of Light- "Wu... that's the sound you make when you're pretending to give a crap, isn't it? Wuuuuuuuuuuuu." So unloved. I shall have to love them ten times more to make up for it. Edited by ChibiGingi, Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:00 am.
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| zhuoran92 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:59 am Post #7683 |
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Ma Chao was put in the five tiger general mostly by reputation though He didn't really do much for SHu Han except participating in the Han ZHong Campaign Even that it is Zhang Fei who defeated Zhang He and Liu Bei who defeated Xia Hou Yuan (Huang Zhong killed him tho) A point about Ma Chao tho, is the skill of his army. Liang/Qiang troops are some of the most elite soldiers at the time... |
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| Jiang Wei1 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:59 am Post #7684 |
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First Lieutenant
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It's so hard staying off this forum. I've been trying to return all day, but there are way too many spoilers. I honestly didn't think it would be this difficult. I guess im gone for sure now. Must find a new hobby on the internet for 21 days.
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| SazukeEX | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:00 am Post #7685 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Maybe he was but they did fight and Zhang Fei and Guan Yu appeared evenly matched. Guan Yu didn't despire to fight his brother especially since it could have gone either way. They were just starting out and were fresh. Even Guan Yu was humbled when he was younger. Not everyone is born as a BAMF like Lu Bu was. Usually when Assasians attack they attack when you're least prepared. Hell, Sun Ce died by assasians but does that make him any less of a warrior just because his would be killers had no names worth mentioning? Gao Shun got the shaft. If Lu Bu had a true musou than Chen Gong and Gao Shun would be required to flesh it out. |
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| TrueConquer | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:02 am Post #7686 |
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I watched the Wu story but it only had Sun Jian, Sun Ce, Sun Quan, Sun Shang Xiang and Zhou Yu, is that it for the Wu kingdom or is there more? |
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| Paragon of Light | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:03 am Post #7687 |
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The Comeback King
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@ True Conquer There is also Huang Gai, Lu Meng, Lu Xun, Gan Ning and Ling Tong but thats about it. The new characters doesn't get a stage in Kingdom mode. |
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| YumichiHeart | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:03 am Post #7688 |
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Not only did Pang De have a flashy intro to that battle, he nearly kills Guan Yu, but is called back by Yu Jin. Pang De is underrated in terms of skill, people think Pang De is that sissy who was another quick slice or two for Guan Yu. DW7 DLC Idea: Make a new stage for Fan castle, Add Pang De, add Pang De carrying his coffin into battle, add Pang De's novel personality as bloodthirsty. Wow! Guess what we have? A unique warrior for Wei, and a nice challenge for Guan Yu and a decent Cutscene or two. |
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| Liu Bei 7 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:05 am Post #7689 |
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Emperor's Retainer
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Speaking of which, has there been any word on whether Pang De is a generic or absent from the game? |
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| zhuoran92 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:06 am Post #7690 |
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Guan Yu is overrated in the whole sense of god worshipping, but that's Chinese ppl worshipped him and a lot of his qualities As for his fighting ability, it was supposed to be number one in the 3k era, yet the novel elevated Lu Bu and Zhao Yun's status at the expense of Guan Yu... that's underrating Guan Kong Ming is overrated for sure, but in history he's still one of the best administrator in chinese history, a great strategist, and a great commander some doubt his commanding ability, but really, with an army of less than 50,000, mostly infantry, he can attack the foreign country, and scare wei to the point that Sima Yi doesn't even dare to attack Han army even though he has much more troops and strong cavalry... that's a huge accomplishment... |
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| Raiko Z | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:06 am Post #7691 |
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They added Ding Feng and Lian Shi, yet they don't put them into the story. |
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| zhuoran92 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:07 am Post #7692 |
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SUn cE killed his assassins... Lu Bu ran away... |
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| TrueConquer | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:09 am Post #7693 |
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That's not too bad I guess but it does blow that not all the characters were incorporated. At least all the characters have a stage in Conquest mode then |
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| ChibiGingi | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:10 am Post #7694 |
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Yep. DLC/XL, ftw! I mean, who DOESN'T resort to that nowadays? Maybe we'll be lucky and they'll include other Late Wu and more Wei characters as well. |
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| YumichiHeart | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:10 am Post #7695 |
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I hope he is at least an NPC in Fan Castle. That would make a lot more sense honestly, DW5 Fan Castle was one of the best maps I played, except they never told about Pang De's death or Yu Jin's surrender correctly or at all... In DW7 I was expecting the return of a new Pang De, sorta like the new Xing Cai. To answer your question, I don't think its been confirmed yet to have Pang De even as an NPC... Maybe people who speak Japanese may see his name poke its head out to be seen? (the stream is playing Wei isn't it?) |
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| SazukeEX | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:11 am Post #7696 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Sun Ce killed them but he died because of it. Had he ran away like Lu Bu did than he would have lived to guide Wu to a brighter future. As Sun Ce said, as a Commander he was simply better than Sun Quan. If Sun Ce hadn't died than Cao Cao might have been in real danger since he was really open because of his war against Yuan Shao. |
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| SilentNinja | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:12 am Post #7697 |
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HAHAHA! He probably hate reading like Lu Meng(Before he transform into The Warrior Scholar) Yeah, the wonderful interpretation of the novel Zhao Zilong!! Anyway, when are we going to get the ShuHan vids?.... The story I'm worrying about can't get any worst as soon as I watch Jin dynasty. Argh, Zhao Yun just a bodyguard nobody theory. |
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| zhuoran92 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:13 am Post #7698 |
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Guan Yu's weakness is that he doesn't like the higher class, it has something to do with his humble upbringing i guess (he was poor when he was little). He treats soldiers and commoners really well, but he has terrible relationships with his colleagues... That's part of the reason he was betrayed by Mi Fang and Shi Ren zhang Fei is the opposite, he respect higher class but mistreat his troops, which end up getting him assassinated in his sleep sad... |
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| vubradbecks | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:14 am Post #7699 |
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hey guys!!! can you tell me about story of Wu and Jin !!!!Thx ^^ |
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| SazukeEX | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:15 am Post #7700 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Too bad Liu Bei didn't love his brothers enough to try and correct those faults of theirs. A real pity. |
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