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| ChibiGingi | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:18 am Post #7701 |
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Booyaka, Booyaka
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Nope. Instead he goes on a bloody thirsty rampage and gets his ass handed to him by a little known Wu strategist. And Shu fanboys rage on, they rage on. At least they'll get a great story in DW7. Or, at least a better story than Wu, though apparently that's not too hard now. |
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| zhuoran92 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:19 am Post #7702 |
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Elite Soldier
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The whole SUn Ce death whoever, is fishy there's rumor that Sun QUan was the guy behind assassination and from the way he treated Sun Ce's descendant and the fact he made Ce a king/not emperor, shows that he might actually be involved in the death of his brother Also, Lu Bu's only significant fight in history was a duel against LI Jue, he won the duel and injured Li Jue, but he lost the battle and has to run away again...he's weak... Lu Bu had no friends too, the only two guys that truly trusted him, one, ZHang Yang, he ran away from, the other, liu Bei, He betrayed... |
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| YumichiHeart | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:19 am Post #7703 |
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Wei's Elite
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Wu: What story? Oh yeah Chi Bi, Yi Ling, done. XD Maybe not really like that, but if you were expecting an epic story to match the other kingdoms, you will be disappointed. Edit: zhuo, Zhang Liao and Gao Shun were friends with Lu Bu after he fleed, Chen Gong was semi-friendly to him as well, Lu Bu wasn't weak... He was intelligent, and wasn't the best leader. In individual strength, Lu Bu is historically the best fighter (And novel wise) in that era. Note: Nothing is said about him being the best leader. Edited by YumichiHeart, Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:21 am.
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| Bng422 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:19 am Post #7704 |
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Wang Yuanji Fan
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Huh. Seeing how Wu got shafted and Shu gets the best kingdom mode out of the three (not including Jin since they're last), I'm thinking of playing Wu>>>Wei>>>Shu I've always enjoyed Shu's story since a little kid and I read their stuff so much I can pretty much write everything out about them. But since Wu got shafted by Koei and their Kingdom Mode looks pretty crappy (ending at Yi Ling... why add Ding Fend then?) I'm considering playing Shu last. But since I love Shu, I'd probably want to play them first. But I don't want to feel bored because Wu's seem so bad... I CAN'T DECIDE!!! @Chibi Yeah Shu was cool until Guan Yu gets killed. EVERYONE DIES Zhuge Liang's part was cool but after he died everything went down hill.
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| Liu Bei 7 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:19 am Post #7705 |
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Emperor's Retainer
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Yeah, I'm really curious to see what they do with him. He's the only conventional character that isn't returning. |
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| Tsak | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:20 am Post #7706 |
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Officer
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1- yes, there seems to be some sort of air dash with the dao or the jumping is extremely forward motion 2- yes 3- im not too sure, some of the switch attacks (the dao does a knock up motion allowing a combo afterward) don't let you combo as they knock too far away it seems |
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| zhuoran92 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:20 am Post #7707 |
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Elite Soldier
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from history, or the game? |
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| ChibiGingi | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:21 am Post #7708 |
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I thought that was part of a opera or movie, or something. Or, just mere rumors? Not that they'd have any definitive proof to go by. I'm sure Lu Meng and Lu Xun could start their own CSI agency in Wu, seeing as there's nothing else for them to do in their free time. |
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| GuardianAlexio | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:24 am Post #7709 |
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The Epitome of Excellence
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Even though the debates seem to have simmered down a little, I'm still going to go ahead and point out the History Section for some of you guys. http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/forum/5441/ Use it if you want to continue the historical debates because frankly it's off-topic here. |
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| YumichiHeart | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:24 am Post #7710 |
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I am extremely curious as well... Pang De was my favorite character from DW5, Zhang Liao now has that spot though. If Gundam got DLC characters, and missions etc. I can surely expect DLC characters for more wanted characters in DW7. |
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| zhuoran92 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:29 am Post #7711 |
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actually, attacking was the right decision, and really the only hope shu han has left... without Jing ZHou there's no way in hell shu han can unify China. And remember, a lot of Liu Bei's officers are from Jing Zhou, he needs to try to restore the home base. Revenge is one factor, restore jing zhou is another big reason. The defeat wasn't really surprising... Liu Bei had less than 45,000 men at Yi Ling while Lu Xun had over 50,000, what do you expect? Yet Liu Bei still had success early in the campaign, and only lost after Lu xun went on defensive for several months. And You have to understand the rage of Shu. WHile the novel depict Shu as borrowing Jing ZHou from Wu, in reality Shu held Jiang XIa during Chi Bi, and Captured ChangSha, LingLing,WuLIng, and GuiYang after the battle. THey only "borrowed" from Wu and that's because Wu wants Shu to bear Wei's attack after Zhou Yu died... and in 214, The matter is supposed to be settled, as Shu give CHangsha, JiangXia, and guiyang(or lingling) to Wu. SO as of 219, the two kingdoms are in an alliance, without real territory dispute... in Fan Castle, Guan Yu has defeated Yu Jin, Surrounded Cao Ren, and scared Cao Cao into almost moving capital...Wu at this time should attack Wei, as Wei is still the strongest kingdom, and try to finally take He Fei and Yang Province. Yet they attacked Jing and backstabbed their ally... Who would not get mad over this? |
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| ChibiGingi | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:36 am Post #7712 |
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Cao Cao outnumbered Wu at Chi bi and lost. Yuan Shao outnumbered Cao Cao at Guan Du, and lost. Wu outnumbered Wei at He Fei, and lost. Numbers mean absolutely nothing in war; it's the man at the head, the strategist and warriors at his command, and other conditions. And last I checked, Wu lended the Jing Province to Shu, and they simply refused to vacate the premise. I gathered that it was suppose to be a temporary residence until they got their own home, anyway. Talking about backstabbing, isn't that what Zhuge Liang and Shu did to Wu with the whole Jing Province to begin with? Oh, wait, they're Shu! They can do no wrong! It's not backstabbing, it's "strategy" and "righteous politics". I forgot. It's only backstabbing when Wu, or Wei does it. And Guan Yu was a douchebag. He got everything he deserved. You're talking to someone who doesn't fall for the Shu propoganda. Your noble howls mean little to me. |
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| SilentNinja | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:39 am Post #7713 |
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Still haven't watched any spoilers on the Shu videos yet to serve any overall judgement in the story. Well, about Wu story, blame Sun Quan hogging the storyline. That's Mr. Jiangdong Legacy to you. I think Jin gonna be the best, just a preference.... Yi Ling boring....if you want my opinion as a Shu ist.
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| Paragon of Light | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:40 am Post #7714 |
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Not to mention, Guan Yu pushed his luck way too far during his campiagn for Jing. Spliting your forces into 4(vanguard, forces attacking fancheng and xiangyang, and the defend force toward the rear), insulted an emissary from SUn Quan and raided Wu supply depots. But, I'm still sticking to my choice of Shu>Wei>Wu>Jin. |
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| totem warrior | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:41 am Post #7715 |
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i was watching bits of the live streaming for wu and i saw some of the wu storyline cutscenes. it seemed very interesting and i think it will be great. anyone know when they will be doing the next live stream? |
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| ChibiGingi | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:42 am Post #7716 |
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Eh, I used to like it, as a Wu bias fan myself, but now I'm more or less 'blegh' over it. I just like to watch people flip out about their beloved noble Liu Bei was defeated by his own quest for vengeance and a little known Wu strategist. Going to do Wu's first, just to hurry up and get it out of the way. Or, Shu's, just to get them in general out of the way. On that note, more DA2, then bed. Work, sadly, calls. |
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| zhuoran92 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:46 am Post #7717 |
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did you read what i said??? novel is not history! while novel made it look like Shu borrowed Jing from Wu, in reality Wu only give Shu Nan Jun to defend Wei attack after Zhou Yu died. And in 214 AD, when Wu attacked Shu, the two kingdoms divided Jing in half and settled the dispute! and while all the battles you mention are battles won by the inferior number, you need to realize all these winners are on the defensive... it is really hard to win while attacking with less number of troops... I'm not saying that Liu Bei is a great commander, but really he's very competent, and losing to Lu Xun is not a shame...especially since Liu Bei had less troops and was winning... I'm not talking about ROTK, which many think is Shu Propaganda (it's not)... I'm talking about actual history! which Shu did even had a hand in because they didn't keep official history record The history I'm referring, 三国志,is biased toward Wei and in someways Wu, yet they still do not regard Jing province as borrowed face it, Wu backstabbed Shu! |
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| SazukeEX | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:46 am Post #7718 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Just incase anyone missed this.
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| YumichiHeart | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:48 am Post #7719 |
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Edit: Nevermind xD Do you think Xu Huang will get a few stages? Edited by YumichiHeart, Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:49 am.
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| Whitewolf76969 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:50 am Post #7720 |
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i highly doubt it considering the other games where he gets little to no anything |
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| Paragon of Light | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:51 am Post #7721 |
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Wu overreacted we could say. Guan Yu did do some stupid manuevers by insulting a diplomat and raiding some supplies. Fault lies with both parties. Lets stop at that. Going to get off for today and I hope there is a stage list for Shu so we can get angry at that. |
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| YumichiHeart | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:51 am Post #7722 |
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Guan Du for Wei should include: Xu Huang (Until he is forced to retreat by Wen Chou i think?) Zhang Liao (forced to retreat by Yan Liang) Then finally Guan Yu (It would be weird not to play as Guan Yu in this stage wouldn't it? If Xiahou Ba gets to play in Shu...) |
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| Bng422 | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:54 am Post #7723 |
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I still believe Shu had the most interesting and heroic part of the history. Sure, Im a Shuist and this is a lot of bias, but which kingdom has: Managed to survive various chaos in the north Survive attacks from Cao Cao (strongest dude in that part of history) Build his Kingdom from literally ground up with 2 large, opposing factions that are settled Almost equal them in strength (until everyone dies around 220 AD) Seriously, you can say Cao Cao had to fight off everyone in the North for his and Sun family conquered their own in the east, but Liu Bei was running around most of the time and he established his kingdom in 214 AD, where everything wass settled already. You gotta give kudos to Liu Bei for lasting that long. |
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| PowerfulGuanPing | Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:58 am Post #7724 |
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Who do you think will have the most stages in Kingdom mode? My opinion is that Xiahou Dun or Zhao Yun. |
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| SilentNinja | Wed Mar 9, 2011 7:02 am Post #7725 |
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At least, Liu Bei prove he's a badass 'emo'...*Dodge a bunch of throwing things from Liu Bei, Liu Bei x SSX fans, and whatelse from the guy who brags about his Liu inheritent and gets away with fighting for hisself* This is the whole point about his shift characterization in that battle. DW 6 SSX story just made the drama excessive for her devoted love(and selfishness) for Liu Bei. Is SSX still in her DW 6 personality?o.o |
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Zhuge Liang's part was cool but after he died everything went down hill.





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