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| Zilong Yun | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:19 am Post #8451 |
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First Lieutenant
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damn all the artwork is so freaking cool. i hope i could order them online
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| Paragon of Light | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:19 am Post #8452 |
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The Comeback King
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I think my biggest concern is if all conquest mode stages even the stages we didn't get (nanman, jie ting, shi ting etc.) were just you a few officers and a handful of men against an entire army. At least those in kingdom mode you had army somewhat. |
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| The Demon King | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:20 am Post #8453 |
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The One-Eyed Wolf
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Yea I would order just the artbook if I knew where it was available. |
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| Selrak | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:20 am Post #8454 |
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Soldier
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You are so RIGHT, (and i dont just say that because Xiahou Dun is my favorite character) If i was a newcomer to Dynasty Warriors I would not be able to connect with the characters if I had to be a different person in each stage! Also leaving characters out of kingdom mode makes Conquest mode desirable to the newcomer because there are characters which havent been explored yet! imagine the excitement this brings to Conquest after Kingdom is finished. |
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| Liu Bei 7 | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:31 am Post #8455 |
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Emperor's Retainer
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I'm trying not to be pessimistic about this or judge it until I actually play it. And I for the most part have refrained from watching too much of the streams. But I have to say that from what I'm hearing, it is really making me lose the hype... Like what you're saying for example.... I really hope some of the conquest stages are really good and well put together. Edited by Liu Bei 7, Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:33 am.
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| MĀJĒD | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:31 am Post #8456 |
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Commander
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Da Qiao http://www.justin.tv/ecokichi#/w/948972176/4 |
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| Reverie | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:35 am Post #8457 |
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Realist
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Lmao so if I was a new comer I would get to know only who Koei wants me to know about but not all 62 characters, which you would pay 60 dollars for just to learn about 8 per kingdom were as some of it isn't even true novel and history wise were they made kingdom mode to insure everyone gets their shine, it's based on the novel and stating only others will not have a kingdom mode and what not. Not only that but they could have cutscenes showing the non playable characters atleast I mean I am sure they do but some are non existent. |
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| Princefan1 | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:38 am Post #8458 |
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Sima Clan Loyalist
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So if its a new type of weapon, then I might have the chance to get sima yi's claws? I hope i hope i hope i hope!!!! PLEASE KOEI!!!!!! PLEASE!!! I will pay more than 50 usd for it (just a little exaggeration). |
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| ChibiGingi | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:40 am Post #8459 |
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Booyaka, Booyaka
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According to Koei, the only ones worth knowing about are Zhao Yun, Zhuge Liang, the Sun brothers, Sima Zhao and Xiahou Dun. Everyone else? Nah, they're not that important. For all my bitching, though, I'm happy to see Koei attempting to focus on the narration of the story. Just... not the choices they made and how many times certain characters are going to be shoved down our throats, while others are merely farts in the wind. This kind of story would work well with Troy, or any game with such a small cast. A game like this, with an already established fanbase and a ton of characters? Eh, not so much. I hope Koei learns from this for the future games. It's a step in the right direction, but a few awkward steps and stumbles. |
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| The Demon King | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:42 am Post #8460 |
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The One-Eyed Wolf
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Keep in mind Koei is a lazy company. I'm surprised we got so many cutscenes this time around. With games these days being only 8 hours long and almost half of that is cutscenes, I think we are getting a GREAT deal for 60 bucks. Keep in mind the DW6/5/4 costumes will all be free. Tell that to the Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage fans who have to pay exuberant prices for costumes. |
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| Simihe | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:46 am Post #8461 |
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Tiger General
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they were most likely too lazy to fix the co-op issue too
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| Sum Gai | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:48 am Post #8462 |
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Han's Unifier
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I just saw Dong Zhuo gameplay. His first musou is chucking a lot of bombs whilst laughing maniacally. His EX move as people in justin pointed out....is a neck snap that looks like he's mounting you and raping you. |
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| ChibiGingi | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:51 am Post #8463 |
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Booyaka, Booyaka
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I bet he'll have a Legends stage where he's out to capture all of the pretty women of their era. Ugh. Those poor woman. Not even Bao Sanniang deserves such a fate. OR DOES SHE? ... No, she doesn't. x_x |
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| Rydain | Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:52 am Post #8464 |
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Could be worse, I suppose
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I saw that, too, and LOL'ED IRL. I also got a huge kick out of Xu Zhu and Xiahou Yuan's specials. Zhu takes SUPER TUBBY! to an entirely new level, and Yuan looks like he's ripping a good one every time he lets loose with an arrow blast. I know who I'll be playing as.
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| AdawgDaFAB | Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:01 am Post #8465 |
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Han's Unifier
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Posted this in the other thread as well, but people might not see it. Upon discovery of the quoted information I set out to make this: ![]() 01. Axe 02. Wheels 03. Gauntlets 04. Monk Staff 05. Arm Cannon 06. Magic Brush 07. Ball and Chain 08. Bladed Yo-Yo 09. Flute 10. Iron Fan 11. Strategist Fan 12. Sword 13. Flying Swords 14. Rapier 15. Chain & Sickle 16. Lance 17. Nunchaku 18. Crossbow 19. Throwing Daggers 20. Harp 21. Whip 22. Double-Sided Spear 23. Greatsword 24. Pike 25. Tonfa 26. Club 27. Katana 28. Sword & Shield 29. Bo Staff 30. Twin Halberds 31. Spear 32. Twin Iron Whips [Taishi Ji's Rods] 33. Fang Tian Hua Halberd [Lu Bu's] 34. Bow 35. Iron Claws 36. Twin Swords The order I put them in, is by the order they are in the game (Gallery / Weapon Select menu). PS: Remember that the 3 pink hexes aren't unknown, they are the Animal Hexes. Edited by AdawgDaFAB, Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:02 am.
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| Xalfrea | Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:06 am Post #8466 |
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Keyblade hero
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Given the sheer amount of characters, it'll be hard at this point to come up with unique scenarios and stories. Unless Koei can make recyclable stages fun and their writing staff to write better stories, I'm all for the 100% full implementation of Kingdom Mode. |
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| The Demon King | Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:12 am Post #8467 |
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The One-Eyed Wolf
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See thats my point exactly. Giving all the characters their own place and cutscenes in Kingdom Mode will maybe not difficult but still time consuming. Koei has taken a HUGE leap forward from DW6. |
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| Rydain | Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:18 am Post #8468 |
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The problem is that KOEI hasn't been doing much to pique people's interest in some of those characters. Nonplayables should have a strong supporting role to give an idea of who they are. This may be true for some, but others are mostly glossed over. When they show up in chronicle mode, they'll be little more than a name and costume. In other words, a "Uh, who?" as opposed to "I finally get to play as them! w00t" Case in point - Dynasty Warriors 5 introduces Cao Ren in this cut scene before you ever get to play as him. I didn't know who he was, but I remember being stoked to unlock him. DW7, on the other hand... Fan Castle, Wei forces
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| Humble Novice | Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:31 am Post #8469 |
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As mentioned before by those who already played this game, each of the characters have at least one or two unique stages in Conquest Mode that heavily focus on their personal accomplishments regardless of whether they're based on history or fiction. While these stages might not be as long or large as the ones in Kingdom Mode, it's still better than nothing. |
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| SazukeEX | Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:35 am Post #8470 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Though not having the Qiaos around for Chibi seems like a kind of an insult even if I generally don't play as them. Hell, Sun Ce didn't even bother to acknowledge his wife. Sun Ce: Brother... It's all up to you now. Sun Quan: Brother, don't leave me like this! Zhou Yu: What about your wife? Sun Ce: Ever... Hear... The... Term...? Lian Shi: What? Sun Ce: Hit it and quit it... -Sun Ce Dies- Lian Shi: ...If you ever end up like that Sun Quan I will kill you myself. Sun Quan: Why~!? Zhou Yu: Hit it and quit it, huh? I should consider that for the future when I face Cao Cao. Edited by SazukeEX, Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:37 am.
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| Sagittarius | Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:39 am Post #8471 |
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私に触るな!
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What I want to know is; are any of the Conquest Mode stages as long and/or in depth as the Story Mode ones? If they aren't, I'm going to desperately miss Free Mode and this game will get real old, real fast. And that will be a real shame.. Hmm, another thought. Can we actually get the Story Mode stages in Conquest Mode? @AdawgDaFAB: The DW6 costumes are already available to download in case you didn't know.
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| The Demon King | Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:49 am Post #8472 |
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The One-Eyed Wolf
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You are one of the few people on this site that have shut me up on certain subjects. I agree on the not introducing characters properly, but I still stand by my saying that Koei has a hard time making these games and we should give them a break. |
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| Little Conqueror of Jiang Dong | Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:27 am Post #8473 |
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江東之小霸王
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I disagree very strongly that we should "give KOEI a break." If you accept mediocrity without complaint, then expect mediocrity. If you slack off on a school assignment and your teacher gives you a free pass, then you're not very likely to improve in the future, are you? Not that DW7 is mediocre. It's just that there are shortcomings, and if you want those shortcomings addressed in future games, you don't sit silently and hope that they get worked out on their own. You make your displeasure known (although we shouldn't be spamming emoticons or all caps or asterisks or stupid things like that). KOEI is fully capable of making an involving storyline involving 60+ characters. Hell, if you've ever played Legend of Cao Cao, an old Windows game that KOEI did once upon a time, you'll see that even in that simple game, they were able to make pretty much each and every one of the Wei generals you played as in that game was properly introduced. Not to mention that there are a lot of inexplicable absences. There's not even a stage where you fight the Nanman or Jin, about both of whom much ado was made regarding their inclusion. Xu Huang and Cao Ren, both premier generals in Wei, do not have any story whatsoever in the Kingdom Mode. Even in DW6, you at least got some insight into what makes them tick. DW7's Wei musou mode is pretty much all Cao Cao, Xiahou Dun, and Xiahou Yuan, with a sprinkling of Xu Zhu, Dian Wei, Zhang Liao, and Jia Xu here and there. Similarly, Wu's was also lackluster. I've already pointed out how much better Wu's storyline could have been without really changing anything except which officer is playable at which level. It would have been the same amount of work - they already made Taishi Ci, Da Qiao, Xiao Qiao, Lian Shi, and Ding Feng playable. It would not have been much more work to include any of them, even if just for a short moment, in Wu's story mode. That being said, this is KOEI's best DW yet and definitely a step in the right direction in many aspects. But we can't just sit back and slap an A+ on the thing when there are still so many easily fixed shortcomings. Edited by Little Conqueror of Jiang Dong, Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:27 am.
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| Frayling0 | Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:35 am Post #8474 |
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Han's Unifier
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Yue Ying's scythe :O Possibility of new EX weapons? Hell yeah! Buckler blade for Cao Ren, Havoc for Cao Pi, daggers for Gan Ning please! |
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| Yang Xiu | Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:36 am Post #8475 |
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Court Jester of Wei
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Some questions because I havent been here too often... For '4th weapons' or whatever you call them, do you have to unlock them per officer or per weapon? If I get Xiahou Duns strongest level of dao, do I then have the strongest for Cao Cao, SIma Zhao, etc.? Blah, replay isnt looking so good. I play mostly with 2P... this game is going to last two weeks or less if we only have a smattering of 1 minute hex stages to play. |
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