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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
Topic Started: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:01 pm (735,666 Views)
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Raiko Z
Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:07 am
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:53 am
Raiko Z
Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:47 am
I don't know why but I have a bad feeling about clone movesets after watching Wang Yuanji gameplay which using scimitar for a while and Wei trailer which showing Xiahou Dun with his scimitar. They did the same moves...... Please.... at least make some alternation for the charge attack like Ma Chao and Jiang Wei or Lu Meng and Zhang Liao in the previous DW.
DUDE.

HEY DUDE, LISTEN.

Wang Yuan Ji does not have a dao/scimitar for a weapon.

Did that register? Okay.

Did you, and the other doofuses whining about this, even stop to realize she's equipped with the SAME SWORD XIAHOU DUN HAS?

This should be as simple as 2 plus 2.
Take it easy, Mr Moderator. I haven't been posting in here for like a whole year till the recent DW7 discussion came out. So I don't know what the heck people are complaining in the past.

I was just wondering why would Xiahou Dun who is a main dao user has the same movesets as Wang Yuan Ji who is a secondary user, and that makes it look like dao movesets will be cloned for every dao holders, except if she's really wielding Dun's dao in that trailer.

That's all..

P.S: Refrain from writing offensive and rude post. You're a mod, so can you show an positive example to us members? Thanks.
You do realize you not bothering to do any research or followup does not exempt you from anything right?

So trying to make it sound like you have some right because you didn't bother to do so, is kinda void.
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FKA
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You know for the characters that are making this game as their first appearance, I wonder if koei will use costumes from the likes of ROTK and Kessen 2 instead to make up for them not having any dw 4-6 costumes?

I would love to see Bao Sanniang in her Kessen 2 costume ^_^ :D But I don't think it'll suit her that much because she was portrayed as a much more mature badass in Kessen...
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Raiko Z
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:36 am
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:29 am
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:28 am
I'm not sure if anyone has brought this up but when I checked the video again, Wang Yuanji didn't say anything when she defeated 3 officers about 3 and a half minutes into the video. Maybe this means no more "I defeated an Officer!" sayings?
I hope. It got as annoying as victory poses.
That would be a godsend if this true. It gets really annoying when the game falls behind and you rake up kills and then officer remarking on your deeds and add in a couple defeated officers in there and it takes a while for to quite down.
Well, she did in 2:25 after killing Ding Feng. No victory cry, no more DW/SW then. I love their enemy officer defeated. :lol:
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Maybe its only with unique generals at which case, I'm perfectly fine with that.
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Joetri10
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lol Saraphil <3


You people do realise the Wang Yuan Ji never did a musou(Something impossible anyway as if she did a musou attack, she would of used her Knives regardless) and is incapable of doing Xiahou Dun's ex attack, something i thought we all understood now... The basic attack of the weapon are the same for everyone using them, the people who have them as there EX weapon have different musou's(from each other) and a different Ex attack... Seriously, its not rocket science..
Edited by Joetri10, Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:00 am.
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Flyentology
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lol Saraphil <3


You people do realise the Wang Yuan Ji never did a musou(Something impossible anyway as if she did a musou attack, she would of used her Knives regardless) and is incapable of doing Xiahou Dun's ex attack, something i thought we all understood now... The basic attack of the weapon are the same for everyone using them, the people who have them as there EX weapon have different musou's(from each other) and a different Ex attack... Seriously, its not rocket science..
Let's not encourage the way Seraphil has been acting. Yes, Raiko made a silly assumption, but that still doesn't call for such behavior.

And she did use her musou in that video.
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Raiko Z
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:55 am
Maybe its only with unique generals at which case, I'm perfectly fine with that.
I think it only happen to generals with name, not Lieutenant and such, just like in DW6. SW3 even have 2 quotes, sometimes not even say it, they got some new conditions in there which make me curious.
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:08 am
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:55 am
Maybe its only with unique generals at which case, I'm perfectly fine with that.
I think it only happen to generals with name, not Lieutenant and such, just like in DW6. SW3 even have 2 quotes, sometimes not even say it, they got some new conditions in there which make me curious.
From the looks of it, it seems like they only say something after plot-related kills. Just the important stuff. Which is great. "I kill him and am cool dude eh?" after every single officer kill was torturous. I'd be more than happy to see that go. There was no need for it.
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:05 am
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:58 am
lol Saraphil <3


You people do realise the Wang Yuan Ji never did a musou(Something impossible anyway as if she did a musou attack, she would of used her Knives regardless) and is incapable of doing Xiahou Dun's ex attack, something i thought we all understood now... The basic attack of the weapon are the same for everyone using them, the people who have them as there EX weapon have different musou's(from each other) and a different Ex attack... Seriously, its not rocket science..
Let's not encourage the way Seraphil has been acting. Yes, Raiko made a silly assumption, but that still doesn't call for such behavior.

And she did use her musou in that video.
:facepalm:

Yeh, i was talking about not doing a musou with the dao because she can’t do a musou attack with it but the original dao users can, making the moveset not exactly the same.

Also saraphil's behaviour is the same as mine, just took him longer to crack, i accept it as the people in this forum are just going in a loop, no matter how many times people explain these things, there’s still others complaining about it.

Its best that if someone does not understand something, they should just not ask... Maybe make a new topic for peoples questions, this topic itself should be for discussing features, characters and other stuff in general about the game when we hear the news, not complaining about the same fodder that’s taken over 1000 pages.
Edited by Joetri10, Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:23 am.
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:21 am
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:05 am
Joetri10
Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:58 am
lol Saraphil <3


You people do realise the Wang Yuan Ji never did a musou(Something impossible anyway as if she did a musou attack, she would of used her Knives regardless) and is incapable of doing Xiahou Dun's ex attack, something i thought we all understood now... The basic attack of the weapon are the same for everyone using them, the people who have them as there EX weapon have different musou's(from each other) and a different Ex attack... Seriously, its not rocket science..
Let's not encourage the way Seraphil has been acting. Yes, Raiko made a silly assumption, but that still doesn't call for such behavior.

And she did use her musou in that video.
:facepalm:

Yeh, i was talking about not doing a musou with the dao because she can’t do a musou attack with it but the original dao users can, making the moveset not exactly the same.

Also saraphil's behaviour is the same as mine, just took him longer to crack, i accept it as the people in this forum are just going in a loop, no matter how many times people explain these things, there’s still others complaining about it.

Its best that if someone does not understand something, they should just not ask... Maybe make a new topic for peoples questions, this topic itself should be for discussing features, characters and other stuff in general about the game when we hear the news, not complaining about the same fodder that’s taken over 1000 pages.
Should've clarified that whole musou thing. Besides, Raiko wasn't even talking about musous, (s)he was talking about the s-string. And Seraphil's behavior being similar to yours doesn't validate any more either way. If someone doesn't understand something, they should ask. Like you said, this may not be the best place to, but if someone does, they should still be treated with some sort of respect and have their question answered in an appropriate way, especially from a mod.

In a perfect world, everyone would read the Info thread before coming here. Obviously that will never be the case, but that still doesn't mean that someone who represents this community should hit caps lock and belittle someone that's confused about game mechanics.
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Flyentology
Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:32 am
Joetri10
Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:21 am
Flyentology
Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:05 am
Joetri10
Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:58 am
lol Saraphil <3


You people do realise the Wang Yuan Ji never did a musou(Something impossible anyway as if she did a musou attack, she would of used her Knives regardless) and is incapable of doing Xiahou Dun's ex attack, something i thought we all understood now... The basic attack of the weapon are the same for everyone using them, the people who have them as there EX weapon have different musou's(from each other) and a different Ex attack... Seriously, its not rocket science..
Let's not encourage the way Seraphil has been acting. Yes, Raiko made a silly assumption, but that still doesn't call for such behavior.

And she did use her musou in that video.
:facepalm:

Yeh, i was talking about not doing a musou with the dao because she can’t do a musou attack with it but the original dao users can, making the moveset not exactly the same.

Also saraphil's behaviour is the same as mine, just took him longer to crack, i accept it as the people in this forum are just going in a loop, no matter how many times people explain these things, there’s still others complaining about it.

Its best that if someone does not understand something, they should just not ask... Maybe make a new topic for peoples questions, this topic itself should be for discussing features, characters and other stuff in general about the game when we hear the news, not complaining about the same fodder that’s taken over 1000 pages.
Should've clarified that whole musou thing. Besides, Raiko wasn't even talking about musous, (s)he was talking about the s-string. And Seraphil's behavior being similar to yours doesn't validate any more either way. If someone doesn't understand something, they should ask. Like you said, this may not be the best place to, but if someone does, they should still be treated with some sort of respect and have their question answered in an appropriate way, especially from a mod.

In a perfect world, everyone would read the Info thread before coming here. Obviously that will never be the case, but that still doesn't mean that someone who represents this community should hit caps lock and belittle someone that's confused about game mechanics.
Lol yes it does... Theres plenty of places to find the information, this topic isnt the only topic on the forum and anyway, how long do you have to be away to not understand this moveset situation now... Its been going on since v3 i think.

Anyway this is :ot: :kurokan:
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Been going through the translated screenshots, and it looks like the game is really going to go in-depth with the story. The one with Lu Xun discussing Chi Bi has me really excited, hopefully it'll also feature Sun Quan debating whether to go to war with Cao Cao. :D
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Just want to clear this up for you guys. Wang Yuanji was using Sima Zhao's dao not Xiahou Dun's, Dun's does not have the red tassel on it, if this relevent to you guys' argument.

Also,was that gameplay even online like it said? Because I couldn't tell.
Edited by QZW, Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:51 am.
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Even though characters share movesets, their primary (EX) weapon is always a unique skin. Guan Yu and Lu Meng are the same but their weapons look different.
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I really enjoyed the Wang Yuanji Gameplay vid :)
I hope to see a similar one for any other character soon :P
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:55 am
Even though characters share movesets, their primary (EX) weapon is always a unique skin. Guan Yu and Lu Meng are the same but their weapons look different.
Wasn't that the same case for dw6 as well? No one had the exact same weapon, but the same cannot be said for the movesets...
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Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:04 pm
I hope weapon skill levels AREN'T modifiable. I've said this countless times now....the way weapons are paired with characters is now crucial to their gameplay. Its what separates all these swordmen, for example. Strategically combining weapons now is a core gameplay element. If everyone had max affinity with every weapon, they'd be EVEN MORE CLONE-LIKE. We need things like this to create differences within characters apart from just base moves.
This is what leads me to believe that the 5th and 6th attacks and charges will be different for each character, seeing as you have to buy them for the character. It'd be pointless to take out their EX weapon for a different weapon, so it'd be best to switch the secondary weapon only.
This spam only if you have read it before. :P
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:01 am
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Even though characters share movesets, their primary (EX) weapon is always a unique skin. Guan Yu and Lu Meng are the same but their weapons look different.
Wasn't that the same case for dw6 as well? No one had the exact same weapon, but the same cannot be said for the movesets...
Yes it's exactly the same. Though DW6 did one thing different, even though movesets where 100% copied there was the fact they each had altered properties like shock waves, etc. It was relativity minor though and the worst case of laziness I've ever seen in Koei's history.
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i am the only one excited with ding feng man i cant wait to play with him, BTW can someone explain me a litle about the conquest mode (what the video with wang yuanji saws) because i am realy confused. From what i understand and read yesterday in the forum you will choose the stage you want to play then 3 tabs will apear, you select one of them and then it saws the dificulty, the money you will earn and the character you will play on it am i right?
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Oh my god! DW4, 5 and 6 costumes are available for DLC for free!
It says that it's the case for japan, though.
If they confirm this for EU (and others), I will be VERY happy!
I mean, there are characters which I hate the design for DW6 AND DW7, like Zhou Yu for example. THIS would really add up to the game's replay value!
AWESOME news indeed! :D
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The DLC is very good news indeed ^_^ I cant think of any reason why they wouldn't give us the goods. Can't wait to see the old costumes in the new HD quality :lol:

EDIT: Why do I keep making typos? I need a coffee.
Edited by Magma, Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:18 pm.
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can't wait to use Zhou Yu with DW 5 costume, it was my favorite
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i am the only one excited with ding feng man i cant wait to play with him, BTW can someone explain me a litle about the conquest mode (what the video with wang yuanji saws) because i am realy confused. From what i understand and read yesterday in the forum you will choose the stage you want to play then 3 tabs will apear, you select one of them and then it saws the dificulty, the money you will earn and the character you will play on it am i right?
In the video, the narrator explains about the variety of ways the enemy can attack you now, and how the enemy officer will pursue you relentlessly. That is why Wang Yuan Ji is on guard for most of the video.

Don't really get the last question, someone else might help to answer that.

On a side note, you won't be the only one excited with Ding Feng. This I can guarantee you.
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Hey guy , I wonder why Koei doesn't show all charge atk of XIAHOU DUN or some one else , they just show us some S-String with EX and Musou ATK :?:
and the 4th weapon has any different from normal weapon ??/
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can't wait to use Zhou Yu with DW 5 costume, it was my favorite
Yeah! Zhou Yu's DW5 costume is really great, at least if you compare it to his costumes' on the next installments...

And yes MightyMSimo, I don't see any legitimate reasons as to why they wouldn't give us those DLC, I mean, we know that Japan's their largest fanbase and that the west is generally a hater of the DW series, but there's also a large non-japanese fanbase, so they should really give us that DLC.
Plus, it would be awesome if we have that, like, just as soon as the game comes out. So we can play characters that we like with their costumes that we like.
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