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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
Topic Started: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:01 pm (735,261 Views)
Musashi_of_Legend
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Tadakatsu,

I agree with you as well. More skill slots is NOT adequate justification for a weapon with a lower attack rating. To my knowledge, this has never been done before in a DW game.

Point 1: In past games, you were given a set number of items you could equip (things like every musou was a true musou, attack up, defense up, bodyguards more powerful, yadda yadda). These set number of items were the same for every character. Weak characters like Pang Tong did not get more item space than Lu Bu. Again, they were the SAME for every character.

Point 2: Even in DW:Strikeforce (which DW7 shares similarities with), if you equipped the "power" version of the weapon (hell! ANY version of the weapon) the number of slots ON THAT VERSION were the same across ALL weapon categories....strategist fans DID NOT get more slots than halberds or spears. If you had the "power" version of the weapon it had "X" amount of slots on it....NO MATTER which weapon it was.


Therefore, this business of allowing "weaker" weapons to have more slots has basically broken the weapon system in my humble opinion. In other DW games, items were separated from the weapons and were equalized among all characters. In this iteration, they are fused to the weapons. Shame. Someone at KOEI should have caught this already....

NOTE TO KOEI: Even in past games where certain weapons had higher/lower attack ratings, they all had the SAME NUMBER of slots/equipped items available to each and every character. FIX THIS!
Edited by Musashi_of_Legend, Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:17 am.
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Daosiying
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:07 am
Guys I have some Info
I went to my JP PSN and the dagger axe have new icon and the three pics in the store show it with Yue Ying.
I just bought the weapon pack. The base animation for holding the weapon is based on Yue Ying's. The moveset itself is rather fun and focuses a lot on grabbing enemies with the blade.
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Daikyō
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okay can someone post the picture about it (dagger-axe)? and what about the ex attack? does it have ex attack? and does it change Yue Ying's musou intro weapon attack?thank you :)
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Lao Shi Li
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:20 am
okay can someone post the picture about it (dagger-axe)? and what about the ex attack? does it have ex attack? and does it change Yue Ying's musou intro weapon attack?thank you :)
I second that, Please can some one show us pix! i'm So happy my favorite weapon the Sythe is bacl :dance:
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Daikyō
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got the image from http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/smusou6/dlc/ :D

i wonder does she have "ex" on her icon? the image is not too clear..

edit: 新しい武器アクションとして、武器系統に「戦戈」が追加されます。
「戦戈」は、周囲の敵を掴んで叩きつけたり、多段攻撃をしたりできる武器です。
最初に追加される「戦戈」は一つですが、武器屋で作製、またはクロニクルモードに追加される
シナリオ「武器追加セット「戦戈」」をクリアすると、より強力な「戦戈」を獲得できます

Google Translate: Action as a new weapon, the weapon system "arms race"will be added.
"arms race", or slammed around by grabbing the enemy is a weapon that can attack or multistage.
Added to the first "arms race"is is one, prepared in weapon shops will be added to or chronicle mode
Scenarios, "Additional Set Weapon" arms race ", " clear and more powerful "arms race" can be won
Edited by Daikyō, Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:48 am.
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MĀJĒD
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:46 am
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got the image from http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/smusou6/dlc/ :D

i wonder does she have "ex" on her icon? the image is not too clear..

edit: 新しい武器アクションとして、武器系統に「戦戈」が追加されます。
「戦戈」は、周囲の敵を掴んで叩きつけたり、多段攻撃をしたりできる武器です。
最初に追加される「戦戈」は一つですが、武器屋で作製、またはクロニクルモードに追加される
シナリオ「武器追加セット「戦戈」」をクリアすると、より強力な「戦戈」を獲得できます

Google Translate: Action as a new weapon, the weapon system "arms race"will be added.
"arms race", or slammed around by grabbing the enemy is a weapon that can attack or multistage.
Added to the first "arms race"is is one, prepared in weapon shops will be added to or chronicle mode
Scenarios, "Additional Set Weapon" arms race ", " clear and more powerful "arms race" can be won
I don't see any EX. It's just new moveset and now I'm happy :D
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Lao Shi Li
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Yeah i Zoomed in alot there is no EX on it bummer so there is no Musou attack for this weapon nor will there be a Special EX attack :(
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Lao Shi Li
Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:10 am
Yeah i Zoomed in alot there is no EX on it bummer so there is no Musou attack for this weapon nor will there be a Special EX attack :(
take a bright side, your fave weapon is back and perhaps although there is no EX in the weapon icon, perhaps she can access her previous ex attack on the Dagger axe and also perhaps when she do a musou attack her staff will be changed to Dagger axe ^_^
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MĀJĒD
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:16 am
Lao Shi Li
Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:10 am
Yeah i Zoomed in alot there is no EX on it bummer so there is no Musou attack for this weapon nor will there be a Special EX attack :(
take a bright side, your fave weapon is back and perhaps although there is no EX in the weapon icon, perhaps she can access her previous ex attack on the Dagger axe and also perhaps when she do a musou attack her staff will be changed to Dagger axe ^_^
Yeah at least we got a new moveset you can put it with any character. And I hope we get more (Sima Yi's claws)
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Yes but somehow there is no EX on the Bo Staff either :S
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Daosiying
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:16 am
Lao Shi Li
Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:10 am
Yeah i Zoomed in alot there is no EX on it bummer so there is no Musou attack for this weapon nor will there be a Special EX attack :(
take a bright side, your fave weapon is back and perhaps although there is no EX in the weapon icon, perhaps she can access her previous ex attack on the Dagger axe and also perhaps when she do a musou attack her staff will be changed to Dagger axe ^_^
No Changes to Yue Ying's weapon of choice. Its still staff

Also anyone else care to test something out? Seems to be a glitch in Zhao Yun's EX attack when his proficiency with spear hits 3. I wasn't getting any damage through it so I would to like to confirm if this is an isolated incident or a full on glitch that renders his EX useless.
Edited by Daosiying, Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:27 am.
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Lao Shi Li
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:16 am
Lao Shi Li
Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:10 am
Yeah i Zoomed in alot there is no EX on it bummer so there is no Musou attack for this weapon nor will there be a Special EX attack :(
take a bright side, your fave weapon is back and perhaps although there is no EX in the weapon icon, perhaps she can access her previous ex attack on the Dagger axe and also perhaps when she do a musou attack her staff will be changed to Dagger axe ^_^
Yeah true, I guess i'll just look at the bright side and use it as my main weapon lol :dance:
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Daikyō
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There's an EX words in the BO Staff icon if you zoom it :D

Daosiying: oow too bad then, but it's okay they can add the ex and musou attack when DW 7 : Empires were released :D
Edited by Daikyō, Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:29 am.
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narutothealc
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hey guys how r ya
something've been bothering me since i saw the new gameplay videos i just had to make an account to ask: it seems everytime the enemy takes damage they glow really bright yellow or something is it possible to turn it off?
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There was a 20 MB, Version 1.01 update today. Here is the message that came up for the update:

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Edit - BlackKite translated the above as:
The update patch is for fixing bugs that could freeze the game in 2 occasions:
1. Viewing the list of animals in gallery
2. Equipping 2 chakrams at the same time
Edited by AdawgDaFAB, Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:07 am.
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narutothealc
Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:40 am
hey guys how r ya
something've been bothering me since i saw the new gameplay videos i just had to make an account to ask: it seems everytime the enemy takes damage they glow really bright yellow or something is it possible to turn it off?
That's the fire attack element.
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:42 am
narutothealc
Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:40 am
hey guys how r ya
something've been bothering me since i saw the new gameplay videos i just had to make an account to ask: it seems everytime the enemy takes damage they glow really bright yellow or something is it possible to turn it off?
That's the fire attack element.
ah thanks i just went back to the vid and now that u point it out. thanks alot
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I really believe there is something written on the weapon icon.
Something like a big "EXC".
But it's written on it, not at the bottom left corner.
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:59 am
I really believe there is something written on the weapon icon.
Something like a big "EXC".
But it's written on it, not at the bottom left corner.
It actually says DLC on it.
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Oh yep you're right...sorry ;)


Do somebody already test to switch weapons with this new one to see the effect it has ?
Edited by garnix, Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:09 am.
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:27 am
There's an EX words in the BO Staff icon if you zoom it :D

Daosiying: oow too bad then, but it's okay they can add the ex and musou attack when DW 7 : Empires were released :D
I was going to say the same thing, but Xtreme legends usually comes out before it so they will have and this will mean no more.............. figure out the rest.

I know this the wrong place for it, but wouldn't be cool if in DW7 Empires the officers died in battle this time rather then just execution and old age, this is too early to be saying but i can't wait for the empires version of this.
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:36 am
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:09 am
In my opinion it only really becomes a problem if you either lack imagination and always chose the same weapons, or if you are maxing all characters in which case you're bound to start seeing doubles (in Ex weapons - and tbh I'd have cloned musou attacks too and linked them to the weapons): in one case you can only blame yourself, i
Umm a issue here is really any game with clones will cause an issue. Then like I said a lot of times, imagination shouldn't even be in anything regarding clones lol, that is like saying you must pretend you see something unique even though it's the same dog on thing as you previously used now I do want to ask is that what you saying? I'm not even being sarcastic if I read it wrong let me know because that's what I got out from it.
No, l what I mean by imagination is not that you should pretend they are unique, but that you should not equip every character you play as with the same weapons, or the same secondary, and then complain they are all the same. It's the same deal as with FFXII, yes, you could have every character be a greatsword wielder but that doesn't mean you can complain about lack of differences between character builds after making them that way yourself.

bottom line: there is 35 weapons you can use, if you always equip a Dao then you definitely have a problem that 62 weapons probably wouldn't solve :p

Of course if you are going to stick to EX weapon + secondary or if you really want to play all 62 chars long enough for it to become a problem even disregarding EX weapons, then you will have to start using weapons you used on other characters, but that is a very long term issue that most people won't ever get to experiencing.
Edited by Yunchan, Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:00 am.
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:18 am
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Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:27 am
There's an EX words in the BO Staff icon if you zoom it :D

Daosiying: oow too bad then, but it's okay they can add the ex and musou attack when DW 7 : Empires were released :D
I was going to say the same thing, but Xtreme legends usually comes out before it so they will have and this will mean no more.............. figure out the rest.

I know this the wrong place for it, but wouldn't be cool if in DW7 Empires the officers died in battle this time rather then just execution and old age, this is too early to be saying but i can't wait for the empires version of this.
Just pointing out that there was no DW6 XL as such, they did a Special version on the PS2 but that's not quite the same deal. Tbh, I'd rather not have an XL and have dlc support for DW7 until Empires and/or Strikeforce or whatever they come up with this time.
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I would say Dw6 special is actually just a badly ported Xl game... And Sw3 is getting a Xl expansion now... The only main title not to have a directly called Xl was dw6, that doesn’t mean Dw7 won’t have something similar to it.
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Point 1: In past games, you were given a set number of items you could equip (things like every musou was a true musou, attack up, defense up, bodyguards more powerful, yadda yadda). These set number of items were the same for every character. Weak characters like Pang Tong did not get more item space than Lu Bu. Again, they were the SAME for every character.
Actually, DW4 did have certain characters with different amounts of item slots. Most warrior-types had only 4 slots (plus a saddle and orb), other characters such as rulers, females and some strategist types were given 5, while Pang Tong, Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi all had 6 slots. So it has been done before.
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