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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
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Your final statement involving Americans was incredibly ignorant for one. You're judging them so that's hypocritical of you considering your previous statement a few sentences above. Bias because you're seeing everything only from one side and thinking you're correct about it.
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Your final statement involving Americans was incredibly ignorant for one. You're judging them so that's hypocritical of you considering your previous statement a few sentences above. Bias because you're seeing everything only from one side and thinking you're correct about it.
He's made his place on my ignore list pretty quick.

Back on topic though:

Best Buy has it this morning =D I'm still not sure if it'd be worth it to make the drive to get it.
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No one here is in any place to judge others.

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People who do that are sheep, sorry to say.

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But I guess you Americans have just always been priviledged, with a silver spoon in your mouths, with everything that comes State-side being translated/dubbed to English.


Haha.
See? It's funny because you did what you said no one has the right to do...

I, personally, don't mind if the game has a Japanese voice option or not, but it's nothing to start an argument over. :huh:
Anyway, I'm just excited that the game is coming out soon in the US (tomorrow, yay!) If there is a JP Voice Option as DLC, and it's free, I might download it.
I see. That might come off as hypocritical but it's actually mindless consuming like that that's giving us subpar products. That attitude is giving the companies the justification they need to be able to keep dishing out subpar products because there are the "loyal fans", who're wearing company goggles, that WILL buy it no matter what.
You know how a heard of sheep are lead, right? There's a shephard who leads them and the sheep do anything the shephard says. If someone blindly buys products JUST BECAUSE someone says so, what better example is there?

And that last part wasn't judgmental, nor meant to be. It's stating a fact. Or am I wrong in that all things that come state-side get translated?
It is "having a silver spoon in your mouth" when you're privileged over another group. No harm in that.
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Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:05 pm
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No one here is in any place to judge others.

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People who do that are sheep, sorry to say.

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But I guess you Americans have just always been priviledged, with a silver spoon in your mouths, with everything that comes State-side being translated/dubbed to English.


Haha.
See? It's funny because you did what you said no one has the right to do...

I, personally, don't mind if the game has a Japanese voice option or not, but it's nothing to start an argument over. :huh:
Anyway, I'm just excited that the game is coming out soon in the US (tomorrow, yay!) If there is a JP Voice Option as DLC, and it's free, I might download it.
I see. That might come off as hypocritical but it's actually mindless consuming like that that's giving us subpar products. That attitude is giving the companies the justification they need to be able to keep dishing out subpar products because there are the "loyal fans", who're wearing company goggles, that WILL buy it no matter what.
You know how a heard of sheep are lead, right? There's a shephard who leads them and the sheep do anything the shephard says. If someone blindly buys products JUST BECAUSE someone says so, what better example is there?

And that last part wasn't judgmental, nor meant to be. It's stating a fact. Or am I wrong in that all things that come state-side get translated?
It is "having a silver spoon in your mouth" when you're privileged over another group. No harm in that.
Yes, but you're being blind to your own ignorance. You implied all Americans had a 'silver spoon in their mouth' that clearly isn't true.
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Your final statement involving Americans was incredibly ignorant for one. You're judging them so that's hypocritical of you considering your previous statement a few sentences above. Bias because you're seeing everything only from one side and thinking you're correct about it.
How come? It wasn't meant to be offensive. If you say someone is privileged over another, that's not an insult. If you say "you're a spoiled brat" that is an insult. Which I at no point said, nor meant.
So you don't get stuff translated?
I never said things shouldn't be translated, I'm just saying not to judge those who want to have the original.
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Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:05 pm
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No one here is in any place to judge others.

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People who do that are sheep, sorry to say.

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But I guess you Americans have just always been priviledged, with a silver spoon in your mouths, with everything that comes State-side being translated/dubbed to English.


Haha.
See? It's funny because you did what you said no one has the right to do...

I, personally, don't mind if the game has a Japanese voice option or not, but it's nothing to start an argument over. :huh:
Anyway, I'm just excited that the game is coming out soon in the US (tomorrow, yay!) If there is a JP Voice Option as DLC, and it's free, I might download it.
I see. That might come off as hypocritical but it's actually mindless consuming like that that's giving us subpar products. That attitude is giving the companies the justification they need to be able to keep dishing out subpar products because there are the "loyal fans", who're wearing company goggles, that WILL buy it no matter what.
You know how a heard of sheep are lead, right? There's a shephard who leads them and the sheep do anything the shephard says. If someone blindly buys products JUST BECAUSE someone says so, what better example is there?

And that last part wasn't judgmental, nor meant to be. It's stating a fact. Or am I wrong in that all things that come state-side get translated?
It is "having a silver spoon in your mouth" when you're privileged over another group. No harm in that.
Yes, but you're being blind to your own ignorance. You implied all Americans had a 'silver spoon in their mouth' that clearly isn't true.
Umm... Are you reading something that isn't there? I meant it as "they have a silver spoon in their mouths because the things get translated to their language". And I don't think you're in any position to be criticising me, especially after that whole episode of yours :)
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No one here is in any place to judge others.

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People who do that are sheep, sorry to say.

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But I guess you Americans have just always been priviledged, with a silver spoon in your mouths, with everything that comes State-side being translated/dubbed to English.


Haha.
See? It's funny because you did what you said no one has the right to do...

I, personally, don't mind if the game has a Japanese voice option or not, but it's nothing to start an argument over. :huh:
Anyway, I'm just excited that the game is coming out soon in the US (tomorrow, yay!) If there is a JP Voice Option as DLC, and it's free, I might download it.
I see. That might come off as hypocritical but it's actually mindless consuming like that that's giving us subpar products. That attitude is giving the companies the justification they need to be able to keep dishing out subpar products because there are the "loyal fans", who're wearing company goggles, that WILL buy it no matter what.
You know how a heard of sheep are lead, right? There's a shephard who leads them and the sheep do anything the shephard says. If someone blindly buys products JUST BECAUSE someone says so, what better example is there?

And that last part wasn't judgmental, nor meant to be. It's stating a fact. Or am I wrong in that all things that come state-side get translated?
It is "having a silver spoon in your mouth" when you're privileged over another group. No harm in that.
Wait you're upset that all things that go to the United States, a primarily English speaking country get translated to ENGLISH?

I'm sorry that I want to enjoy the game in the language that I speak, my apologies that makes me xenophobic and more privileged than you.

People are welcome to whine about what they want with the game, sure, but you have to understand if you whine about something everyone else has a right to whine right back at you. That's the issue people are having in this forum.

I swear people need to take a step back and look at the things you're bitching about. 90% of the whiners in this forum need to take a basic class in their language of choice where they teach them to form a coherent persuasive argument. You start with the argument "This sucks because.." then you back it up with EVIDENCE and FACTS to try to persuade people to your opinion. Instead of the "This sucks because.." then follow up with "you're all sheep".
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Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:05 pm
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No one here is in any place to judge others.

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People who do that are sheep, sorry to say.

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But I guess you Americans have just always been priviledged, with a silver spoon in your mouths, with everything that comes State-side being translated/dubbed to English.


Haha.
See? It's funny because you did what you said no one has the right to do...

I, personally, don't mind if the game has a Japanese voice option or not, but it's nothing to start an argument over. :huh:
Anyway, I'm just excited that the game is coming out soon in the US (tomorrow, yay!) If there is a JP Voice Option as DLC, and it's free, I might download it.
I see. That might come off as hypocritical but it's actually mindless consuming like that that's giving us subpar products. That attitude is giving the companies the justification they need to be able to keep dishing out subpar products because there are the "loyal fans", who're wearing company goggles, that WILL buy it no matter what.
You know how a heard of sheep are lead, right? There's a shephard who leads them and the sheep do anything the shephard says. If someone blindly buys products JUST BECAUSE someone says so, what better example is there?

And that last part wasn't judgmental, nor meant to be. It's stating a fact. Or am I wrong in that all things that come state-side get translated?
It is "having a silver spoon in your mouth" when you're privileged over another group. No harm in that.
Wait you're upset that all things that go to the United States, a primarily English speaking country get translated to ENGLISH?

I'm sorry that I want to enjoy the game in the language that I speak, my apologies that makes me xenophobic and more privileged than you.

People are welcome to whine about what they want with the game, sure, but you have to understand if you whine about something everyone else has a right to whine right back at you. That's the issue people are having in this forum.
No, I'm not upset about that at all. I even said it's a good thing o_O

I didn't at any point say you shouldn't enjoy the game in your native language, I'm just sick and tired of that "understand" argument. It is xenophobic if you refuse to listen to foreign languages because you don't understand them. And you are privileged, that's fine.

That last part wasn't really relevant.

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You start with the argument "This sucks because.." then you back it up with EVIDENCE and FACTS to try to persuade people to your opinion. Instead of the "This sucks because.." then follow up with "you're all sheep".

Wonder where I said that O_o
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No one here is in any place to judge others.

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People who do that are sheep, sorry to say.

...

But I guess you Americans have just always been priviledged, with a silver spoon in your mouths, with everything that comes State-side being translated/dubbed to English.


Haha.
See? It's funny because you did what you said no one has the right to do...

I, personally, don't mind if the game has a Japanese voice option or not, but it's nothing to start an argument over. :huh:
Anyway, I'm just excited that the game is coming out soon in the US (tomorrow, yay!) If there is a JP Voice Option as DLC, and it's free, I might download it.
I see. That might come off as hypocritical but it's actually mindless consuming like that that's giving us subpar products. That attitude is giving the companies the justification they need to be able to keep dishing out subpar products because there are the "loyal fans", who're wearing company goggles, that WILL buy it no matter what.
You know how a heard of sheep are lead, right? There's a shephard who leads them and the sheep do anything the shephard says. If someone blindly buys products JUST BECAUSE someone says so, what better example is there?

And that last part wasn't judgmental, nor meant to be. It's stating a fact. Or am I wrong in that all things that come state-side get translated?
It is "having a silver spoon in your mouth" when you're privileged over another group. No harm in that.
Yes, but you're being blind to your own ignorance. You implied all Americans had a 'silver spoon in their mouth' that clearly isn't true.
Umm... Are you reading something that isn't there? I meant it as "they have a silver spoon in their mouths because the things get translated to their language". And I don't think you're in any position to be criticising me, especially after that whole episode of yours :)
And what episode was that? Feel free to find it and quote it, because I remember I only spoke generally of a 'negative portrayal', I didn't take one specific point and generalise it across a whole nation. :P

Anyway... did anyone read my post last page about retail street dates? I think it would be informative for people to take a look at it. Customers don't always understand the perspective of the till op/cashier.
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No one here is in any place to judge others.

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People who do that are sheep, sorry to say.

...

But I guess you Americans have just always been priviledged, with a silver spoon in your mouths, with everything that comes State-side being translated/dubbed to English.


Haha.
See? It's funny because you did what you said no one has the right to do...

I, personally, don't mind if the game has a Japanese voice option or not, but it's nothing to start an argument over. :huh:
Anyway, I'm just excited that the game is coming out soon in the US (tomorrow, yay!) If there is a JP Voice Option as DLC, and it's free, I might download it.
I see. That might come off as hypocritical but it's actually mindless consuming like that that's giving us subpar products. That attitude is giving the companies the justification they need to be able to keep dishing out subpar products because there are the "loyal fans", who're wearing company goggles, that WILL buy it no matter what.
You know how a heard of sheep are lead, right? There's a shephard who leads them and the sheep do anything the shephard says. If someone blindly buys products JUST BECAUSE someone says so, what better example is there?

And that last part wasn't judgmental, nor meant to be. It's stating a fact. Or am I wrong in that all things that come state-side get translated?
It is "having a silver spoon in your mouth" when you're privileged over another group. No harm in that.
Wait you're upset that all things that go to the United States, a primarily English speaking country get translated to ENGLISH?

I'm sorry that I want to enjoy the game in the language that I speak, my apologies that makes me xenophobic and more privileged than you.

People are welcome to whine about what they want with the game, sure, but you have to understand if you whine about something everyone else has a right to whine right back at you. That's the issue people are having in this forum.
No, I'm not upset about that at all. I even said it's a good thing o_O

I didn't at any point say you shouldn't enjoy the game in your native language, I'm just sick and tired of that "understand" argument. It is xenophobic if you refuse to listen to foreign languages because you don't understand them. And you are privileged, that's fine.

That last part wasn't really relevant.
Its not xenophobic that's the thing you're not getting.

You're asking for Koei to cater to a minute percentage of DW players, a simple 1% or less that wants to listen to Japanese (a language that I enjoy, but I can easily see why people would find it annoying when they're used to Latin-based or Germanic languages). It doesn't make them xenophobic or ignorant or anything of the sort.
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I see. That might come off as hypocritical but it's actually mindless consuming like that that's giving us subpar products. That attitude is giving the companies the justification they need to be able to keep dishing out subpar products because there are the "loyal fans", who're wearing company goggles, that WILL buy it no matter what.
You know how a heard of sheep are lead, right? There's a shephard who leads them and the sheep do anything the shephard says. If someone blindly buys products JUST BECAUSE someone says so, what better example is there?

And that last part wasn't judgmental, nor meant to be. It's stating a fact. Or am I wrong in that all things that come state-side get translated?
It is "having a silver spoon in your mouth" when you're privileged over another group. No harm in that.
Yes, but you're being blind to your own ignorance. You implied all Americans had a 'silver spoon in their mouth' that clearly isn't true.
Umm... Are you reading something that isn't there? I meant it as "they have a silver spoon in their mouths because the things get translated to their language". And I don't think you're in any position to be criticising me, especially after that whole episode of yours :)
And what episode was that? Feel free to find it and quote it, because I remember I only spoke generally of a 'negative portrayal', I didn't take one specific point and generalise it across a whole nation. :P

Anyway... did anyone read my post last page about retail street dates? I think it would be informative for people to take a look at it. Customers don't always understand the perspective of the till op/cashier.
So the "my attitude towards Americans has become worse" doesn't ring a bell?

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Its not xenophobic that's the thing you're not getting.

You're asking for Koei to cater to a minute percentage of DW players, a simple 1% or less that wants to listen to Japanese

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It doesn't make them xenophobic or ignorant or anything of the sort.

Yeah my example was a bit off. It would be xenophobic if you hate foreign languages. Now there are multiple motives as to why someone wouldn't want to listen to other languages, but it does come off as xenophobic, a fear of foreign things, when you utterly refuse to listen to anything you don't understand and give it off as a reason WHY you shouldn't be given that language as an option in the first place.

1%? Lol. Didn't you just speak of "proof"? Should you really be using such logical fallacies when you just criticised me of not having "proof"?

I didn't say anyone was ignorant. But I guess xenophobia goes hand-in-hand with ignorance.

But hey, if people here can't handle the same criticism thrown at them, maybe they shouldn't be criticising in the first place? :P
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Wow you're such a paragon of virtue JustMax, were your head any larger your body might just not be able to support it any more ;)

Come on guys, let's stop letting him wind us up and get back on topic. Once again, the street date thing, I urge you to read my post last page.
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Wow you're such a paragon of virtue JustMax, were your head any larger your body might just not be able to support it any more ;)

Come on guys, let's stop letting him wind us up and get back on topic. Once again, the street date thing, I urge you to read my post last page.
Thanks I guess. Just proves you couldn't respond to me properly anymore and couldn't refute anything I said.
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Yes, but it ended the argument, so I couldn't care less. Whatever we say you'll come back with some smart alec comment, I'm sure people would rather not log on to find several pages of users arguing with you. If you've still got a problem, PM people, or PM a mod.
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Yes, but it ended the argument, so I couldn't care less. Whatever we say you'll come back with some smart alec comment, I'm sure people would rather not log on to find several pages of users arguing with you. If you've still got a problem, PM people, or PM a mod.
So you admitted you couldn't refute anything I said because I'm right?
Ok I'll take my victory muffin now then. Thanks ^_^

And you've got a point. But hey, if people want to give criticism towards a whole group of people, they should be ready to take it themselves. As I have. I'll take all of your criticism towards me into account and try to better myself when objectively looking if there's anything wrong in what I said :)
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"winning on the internet"

jesus....

Anyway regarding the street date issue. It's far from Illegal. The problem lies in the fact that the companies that makes these games will get mad at whoever sold it early and not want to do business with them anymore. It hurts financially. The other issue is for playing something early one say PSN or Xbox Live can result in a banned account.
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"winning on the internet"

jesus....
Answering trollish comments with trollish comments.

It's just hilarious how everyone here jumps on me like I'm Osama after saying ANYTHING about America(like that they're CLEARLY privileged over others due to everything getting translated, NOT EVEN A BAD THING), but criticising and offending another group of people is just ok, and shouldn't be met with defense? And I'm the hypocrite? :D
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To the guy who asked whether early release was illegal:

No it's not illegal, it depends on the company. But aside from the fact the game producer will be upset/annoyed/angry (Chin specifically called these retailers 'dodgy' in a recent post) some companies have very strict rules. I work for Currys (UK) and we can be punished with gross misconduct for breaching the street dates specified on our tills. It's pretty serious, but not illegal.
This is what I posted earlier. As it says, I work in a game shop, so I'm not making all of this up.
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Even though DW 7 wasn't the best DW game I've played(Its great until you notice it's crazy flaws, those who refuse to see will see them the hard way.), I'm still excited to get my own copy, English version today.


Lol also just to those who wonder why games like halo, madden, 2k sports, Gears of War, and other successful games that seem repetitive is that they don't take sways what was good and they don't fix what need s to be fix, also they improve each time and use smart choices when doing things. They also have a lot of online features.

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"winning on the internet"

jesus....
Answering trollish comments with trollish comments.

It's just hilarious how everyone here jumps on me like I'm Osama after saying ANYTHING about America(like that they're CLEARLY privileged over others due to everything getting translated, NOT EVEN A BAD THING), but criticising and offending another group of people is just ok, and shouldn't be met with defense? And I'm the hypocrite? :D
It sounds to me like you have a victim complex now with the "everyone's out to get me" nonsense. The Osama comment was just as stupid and distasteful as someone saying: "Well at least I'm not Hitler guys!" You're taking things way too far and it's incredibly inappropriate for the forum and this discussion and is completely off topic now.

You're acting extremely immature: "Oh can't think of anything to say? Guess I won guys!" and refusing to see any error with the things you say and your attitude about it comes off as arrogant as well.

This is my last post to you as it's nothing but a waste of time and serves as nothing but pollution to the topic.

Enjoy your "victory" in life I suppose.
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"winning on the internet"

jesus....
Answering trollish comments with trollish comments.

It's just hilarious how everyone here jumps on me like I'm Osama after saying ANYTHING about America(like that they're CLEARLY privileged over others due to everything getting translated, NOT EVEN A BAD THING), but criticising and offending another group of people is just ok, and shouldn't be met with defense? And I'm the hypocrite? :D
It sounds to me like you have a victim complex now with the "everyone's out to get me" nonsense. The Osama comment was just as stupid and distasteful as someone saying: "Well at least I'm not Hitler guys!" You're taking things way too far and it's incredibly inappropriate for the forum and this discussion and is completely off topic now.

You're acting extremely immature: "Oh can't think of anything to say? Guess I won guys!" and refusing to see any error with the things you say and your attitude about it comes off as arrogant as well.

This is my last post to you as it's nothing but a waste of time and serves as nothing but pollution to the topic.

Enjoy your "victory" in life I suppose.
Well there was a touch of discrimination against the Japanese language here:
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I just find it hard to take any of the characters serious when they speak Japanese.


So yeah, you can't really blame me for jumping the xenophobia gun.

Also calling others just "picky" due to wanting that isn't exactly nice either.

And YOU are biased. I already told you I'm answering trollish comments with trollish comments. You REFUSE to see that from your side because of ingroup bias and a hint of psychological projection.

Victim complex? I guess, but can you call that a complex when you are the victim?

Actually I'm interested, did you even ****ing read what I ORIGINALLY replied to?

I didn't mean the Osama comment like that, just pointing out the ridiculousness of all of your reaction to my comment.

But seriously: Why did people get offended over me saying that the Americans are more privileged(e.g "having a silver spoong in his/her mouth") due to getting everything translated? o_O
I never said it's a bad thing either, just pointing it out.
Now this privilege isn't about politics or anything like that, so why the offense? Is it just me mentioning America in the first place that riled up the crowd?
Edited by JustMax, Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:56 pm.
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Anyway with all the bickering aside. DW7 comes out tomorrow, and I am excited. It is already paid off going to Gamestop after work and picking it up. I think I will most definitely play the story mode 1st.
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Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:46 pm
Even though DW 7 wasn't the best DW game I've played(Its great until you notice it's crazy flaws, those who refuse to see will see them the hard way.), I'm still excited to get my own copy, English version today.


Lol also just to those who wonder why games like halo, madden, 2k sports, Gears of War, and other successful games that seem repetitive is that they don't take sways what was good and they don't fix what need s to be fix, also they improve each time and use smart choices when doing things. They also have a lot of online features.

I just want to know something. Why do all your posts are negative about the game? :/
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We're going after school today to drop our preorder at Gamestop and picking up a copy from Best Buy probably lol woohoo 1 day early!
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Hey guys just got crysis 2 from game and the the cashier asked if i wanted to pre-order anything, i asked about dynasty warriors and he told me that's its out on the 1st of april. If it was only just announced about the delay i wouldn't have thought too much into this, however the delays been known for a while and there only two weeks maximum for it to come out so they really should have the correct information by now? Also i emailed game regarding the pens offer and they said its online only. MAYBE just maybe that's why there's a delay? and maybe it's only online? :P
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