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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
Topic Started: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:01 pm (735,638 Views)
Keneticam
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I believe his name in the game is spelled as Liu Shan.

Btw, after scanning through the last 30-40 pages or so I've come to the conclusion that this forum has lost it. Members and Moderators Alike. You all are acting a HOT MESS!!!! :rolleyes:

But anyways, regarding the possibility that we may get one last new character or "special secret" characters as some of you were calling it, I actually don't doubt it, yet im not exactly believing it either. It's possible ill say that much. After all DW5's secret character was Zuo Ci, who wasnt ever revealed until after the game came out. I was shocked when i came across him while playing the game. So....theres always the possibility.
Edited by Keneticam, Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:35 am.
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Avieure
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:12 am
Doubt Koei will be implementing Liu Bei's little indiscretion into the game, it would tarnish his image of 'kindness and justice'.
Maybe they can get Zhang Fei to do it instead. I can almost see that happening.

"But you don't even like Zhao Yun..."
"No, but I've always wanted to do that!"

I'm excited for Huang Gai too. Him and Diao Chan most of all.
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Little Conqueror of Jiang Dong
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Frayling0
Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:42 pm
GuardianAlexio
Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:38 pm
@Frayling - Is it really necessary to call out Little Conqueror on the fact that he prefers to call the mode Chronicle instead of Conquest? He's explained that he believes the translation is not very accurate and feels Chronicle overall sounds better then Conquest.

Anyway, I've never been much of a fan of the DW music but getting the chance to choose any of the ones I like is a plus. Plus it does sound as though DW7 is shaping up to have some of the best music of the series.
Well, I just happen to find it elitist and irritating. Koei have made up their mind. It's called Conquest Mode. I don't think the translation is wrong at all. Conquest can refer to several things. If we're taking sections of the map, if we're completing sections of character's life, if we're gaining access to cities, I would call all of those things 'Conquest'. Whether he likes it or not, that will be the name in the game. I'm so sorry for taking the opportunity to have a dig :rolleyes:

I agree on the music front. The orchestral style is just fantastic, and adds another layer to DW7's music. I hope the western release gets 'Time' in the ending credits, it's beautiful!
What a coincidence. I find you irritating. /adds to ignore list

Thanks for trying, GuardianAlexio, but some people don't let things go, and I won't have to pay attention to him anymore anyway. I agree that calling me out on it was immature, unnecessary, and childish, but the mods have other concerns on this forum.

Ghetto General: Among historians, "Liu Shan" is the more commonly used version. "Shan" and "Chan" have different meanings even though they use the same Hanzi. "Shan" is used commonly in words referring to Imperial status, such as the word for abdicating the throne or the establishment of a new Dynasty. "Chan" is used when referring to Zen Buddhism, and while Buddhism had started to become a recognized religion in the Three Kingdoms era, Liu Bei and his family weren't among its adherents.
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Darksh1n
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ok...i just need a verification on a question and this topic was way back of the previous pages i don't remember but um...about the in game-music...will there be a chances to have a long music in battle or a certain part...its just that i wonder if there is a chance that there will be a 'GUZHENG' type of music...

sorry for being off topic and this is just a curiousity of what they'll do....
Edited by Darksh1n, Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:40 am.
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Xiuzhao
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:17 am
Am I the only one really itching to see Huang Gai. I'm a bit interested because he's the only character left that we've not seen any glimpse of or anything yet. And he was kinda epic pre-DW6. The club moveset seriously didn't fit with him. If that's his Ex weapon this time round, I'd probably swap it out for something better. Great Sword/Bow combo perhaps?
No you're not the only one. He would be tied with Wei Yan and Xu Huang for my most anticipated but seeing as those two have more or less been shown already Huang Gai takes the top spot.

And I really liked the club/mini-shield from pre-DW6. I didn't however like the moveset too much. If he kept the club and shield but had an improved moveset he'd probably be one of my favourite Wu characters.
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zade
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i dont really care about what they give huang gai or about his moveset all i care about is if he will have his bomb throw back i loved the ability so much.i loved just hitting my allies with it and getting their horses
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Wolfbane
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You know whats weird and probably means nothing but Amazon.co.uk have changed the release date back to the March 25th they had it as April 1st a day before Koei announced the delay weird huh!


I'm actually looking forward to seeing Huang Gai maybe the lack of mention of him was to get that reaction from people who ignored him in the past (like me)

I hope he has the arm cannon or the great sword instead of the club as those weapons suit him better than the club and the arm cannon would work with his bomb attacks which were his best attacks in the older games.
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I'm pretty sure his name is actually Shan.
From Kongming.net:
Thanks to a mistranslation on Koei and some other translator’s part there is some confusion as to whether his name is Liu Shan or Liu Chan. His given name (禪) translates to either Chan2 or Shan4. Shan4 means “to abdicate to someone” or “to give up”, while Chan2 is the equivalent of the Japanese word “Zen”, a form of meditation. There are two reasons why Shan4 is most likely the correct name.

1) Though Buddhism-related names are recorded as early as the Hou Han shu (Eastern Han), the usage of Buddhist does not become popular until the Jin dynasty (Zen Buddhism becomes popular even later in time).

2) According to Xiang Chong’s Sanguozhi biography, Qiao Zhou said that it’s fitting that Liu Bei started his own kingdom, because Bei meant “to prepare”, and thus Liu Shan lost it, since “Shan” meant “to give away”. If the later ruler’s name were pronounced “Chan”, this play on words would not have been possible.
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@ Wolfbane15:

Hey you're right man. I checked amazon.de (Germany) and there is the 25th of March dated. Before that, it was the 31th. Strange. I will go tomorrow to my local Gamestop and ask them about their dates.
But i guess, our Europe is just too shoddy for exact information.
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:00 am
I hope he has the arm cannon or the great sword instead of the club as those weapons suit him better than the club and the arm cannon would work with his bomb attacks which were his best attacks in the older games.
Now that you mention it, the arm cannon would be a great weapon for Huang Gai. I was hoping he'd return to his club, but now I'm not so sure.

If one of those two is his EX weapon, I'll probably give him both of those and leave it at that.
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I persoanlly think that Huang Gai will have the chain boulder thingy, the weapon Cao Ren and DOng Zhuo has, I think it would be a ncie change to see Huang Gai use a weapon other than a club, despite being able to change both weapons, I hope that the boulder thing is his EX weapon
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:08 am
@ Wolfbane15:

Hey you're right man. I checked amazon.de (Germany) and there is the 25th of March dated. Before that, it was the 31th. Strange. I will go tomorrow to my local Gamestop and ask them about their dates.
But i guess, our Europe is just too shoddy for exact information.
Just checked GAME.uk and Gamestation.uk and they had it for march 25th as well! Coincidence?

@Avieure yeah the arm cannon would be good but if it isn't his EX i'll give it to him anyway.
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TrevorxTravesty
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I'm pretty sure either Huang Gai's EX attack or musou will involve bombs/fire somehow ^^ It just has to!

Yeah, I think the arm cannon would be a great weapon for him...Combined with the drill spear ;p

And I am gonna give Xu Zhu nunchukus & a bo staff just for the lulz ^_^
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ChibiGingi
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:06 am
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Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:23 pm
Yu Jin and Yue Jin should defiantly be added to Wei's roster though.
*DEFINITELY* not *DEFIANTLY*

Also...

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And then...

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Too bad this won't be in the game, but that doesn't stop me from imagining it when I play through the level. Poor Liu Chan... he'll never, ever be taken as a serious character in some fans eyes.

*has thoroughly enjoyed the last ten pages* You guys...
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:18 am
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:08 am
@ Wolfbane15:

Hey you're right man. I checked amazon.de (Germany) and there is the 25th of March dated. Before that, it was the 31th. Strange. I will go tomorrow to my local Gamestop and ask them about their dates.
But i guess, our Europe is just too shoddy for exact information.
Just checked GAME.uk and Gamestation.uk and they had it for march 25th as well! Coincidence?

@Avieure yeah the arm cannon would be good but if it isn't his EX i'll give it to him anyway.
I wonder, who is making that mistake.
Koei said, that the game will be delayed for EU.
But EU hasn't changed their date.

@ Trevor:
Nunchuku's for Xu Zhu? No way. He would think, that it is a pair of sausages, and eat them.
And the Bo-Staff? Baguette.
Edited by ThreeKingdomsWarrior, Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:32 am.
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Yep! I wanna give Xu Zhu weapons that are acrobatic just to see how he'll move xD It's gonna be pretty hilarious, seeing that great gut of his move around.
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Sigh, a day never goes by without some....... "interesting" disputes.

I do want to see what Huang Gai looks like since he's the only character we've haven't seen any pics off.

Wu really doesn't have a group to represent them. Quite diverse you sould say. You got Gan Ning who was strong and smart but had a murderous streak about him. Lu Meng who was first all warrior and then mix warrior strageist. The list goes on.
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:33 am
Yep! I wanna give Xu Zhu weapons that are acrobatic just to see how he'll move xD It's gonna be pretty hilarious, seeing that great gut of his move around.
If Bao's Yoyo can be used by doods, I'd definitely give him that. It would suit his childish personality too :hehe:
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:33 am
Yep! I wanna give Xu Zhu weapons that are acrobatic just to see how he'll move xD It's gonna be pretty hilarious, seeing that great gut of his move around.
Just give him the flute from Zhen Ji.
With so much air in his belly, he would blow the entire stage away.
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:34 am
Wu really doesn't have a group to represent them. Quite diverse you sould say. You got Gan Ning who was strong and smart but had a murderous streak about him. Lu Meng who was first all warrior and then mix warrior strageist. The list goes on.
Wu's colorful enough. They don't need something as silly as Five Tiger generals to be badass. Such things are only there to compensate... :sly:

Besides, I think Wu's motto is 'like a family' anyway. At least that's what their gig in WO1 was all about- don't mess with the family, or you'll get burned. Just like Shu's gig is "HONOR AND JUSTICE", Wei's is "We Always Take the Renegade Option", and Jin is "We steal from Wei".

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Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:36 am
TrevorxTravesty
Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:33 am
Yep! I wanna give Xu Zhu weapons that are acrobatic just to see how he'll move xD It's gonna be pretty hilarious, seeing that great gut of his move around.
Just give him the flute from Zhen Ji.
With so much air in his belly, he would blow the entire stage away.
The nunchucks would be the best.
Guan Suo flip would for Xu Zhu would be priceless. I just hope the flip isn't Suo's EX attack or involved in his musuo. :kurokan:
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Wait, we aren't getting Liu Shan head punting? Than how will Koei explain his lack of ability?!
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:11 am
Wolfbane15
Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:00 am
I hope he has the arm cannon or the great sword instead of the club as those weapons suit him better than the club and the arm cannon would work with his bomb attacks which were his best attacks in the older games.
Now that you mention it, the arm cannon would be a great weapon for Huang Gai. I was hoping he'd return to his club, but now I'm not so sure.

If one of those two is his EX weapon, I'll probably give him both of those and leave it at that.
What if he just that bombs that he throws or a back cannon like that one guy from samurai warriors or a lance with bombs like tokgugawa :sly:
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Well like I said earlier the guy that described Gan Ning before he was found was on point and he had also said Huang gai still has white hair. I an really curious on the hair style and design though.
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I really hope that was a lie though. Gan Ning is staying blonde for the rest of the DW series?

Sigh...
Looks like I'll just settle for the DW3 DLC.
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