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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
Topic Started: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:01 pm (735,617 Views)
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Shu - Dragon
Wei - Phoenix
Wu - Tiger
Jin - Qilin

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Jin is Qilin
Wu is Tiger
Shu is Dragon
Wei is Phoenix

I thought these animals symbolised north, east, south and west for some reason :/
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TheOneEyedWOLF
Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:57 am
iRiDiUM
Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:43 am
Hey guys, quick question on the 4 animals used to symbolize the 4 kingdoms:
Jin - Horse
Shu - Dragon
Wei - Phoenix/Bird/Hawk (I am thinking Phoenix)
Wu - Lion (possible QiLin/Kirin)

They aren't fully the 4 lucky animals of China - which are Turtle, Dragon, Phoenix and QiLin)
But it is worth pointing out that having a turtle isn't really a Warrior kind of thing.

Any ideas as to why those animals represent the kingdoms?
I can see Shu is dragon because of ZhuGe Liang, Wu is tiger because of the Sun family - somehow they are affiliated with tigerzz. Jin and Wei I don't know.
A phoenix is/was meant to represent high virtue, grace and royalty; so that might have something to do with Wei. No idea on Jin though. ^_^
Royalty is associated with Wei because Chen Shou (the author of Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms) only referred Wei as legitimate emperors, Shu as Kings, and Wu as Governors...
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Bng422
Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:03 am
TheOneEyedWOLF
Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:57 am
iRiDiUM
Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:43 am
Hey guys, quick question on the 4 animals used to symbolize the 4 kingdoms:
Jin - Horse
Shu - Dragon
Wei - Phoenix/Bird/Hawk (I am thinking Phoenix)
Wu - Lion (possible QiLin/Kirin)

They aren't fully the 4 lucky animals of China - which are Turtle, Dragon, Phoenix and QiLin)
But it is worth pointing out that having a turtle isn't really a Warrior kind of thing.

Any ideas as to why those animals represent the kingdoms?
I can see Shu is dragon because of ZhuGe Liang, Wu is tiger because of the Sun family - somehow they are affiliated with tigerzz. Jin and Wei I don't know.
A phoenix is/was meant to represent high virtue, grace and royalty; so that might have something to do with Wei. No idea on Jin though. ^_^
Royalty is associated with Wei because Chen Shou (the author of Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms) only referred Wei as legitimate emperors, Shu as Kings, and Wu as Governors...
That makes sense then. Thanks for that. :P
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iRiDiUM
Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:43 am
Hey guys, quick question on the 4 animals used to symbolize the 4 kingdoms:
Jin - Horse
Shu - Dragon
Wei - Phoenix/Bird/Hawk (I am thinking Phoenix)
Wu - Lion (possible QiLin/Kirin)

They aren't fully the 4 lucky animals of China - which are Turtle, Dragon, Phoenix and QiLin)
But it is worth pointing out that having a turtle isn't really a Warrior kind of thing.

Any ideas as to why those animals represent the kingdoms?
I can see Shu is dragon because of ZhuGe Liang, Wu is tiger because of the Sun family - somehow they are affiliated with tigerzz. Jin and Wei I don't know.
Jin animal is horse dragon hybrid thingy
Wei is the Phoenix
Wu is the Tiger
and Shu is the Dragon
Wu Wei Shu all had their animal shown in opening of dynasty warriors 2(IIRC)
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as much as i like pang de, i'm sure he's not in, but again anything could happen, i was uber shocked when Jiang Wei came back, yet had an odd feeling he would,
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Bng422
Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:57 am
Wei is referred to as a Phoenix because it is usually the opponent of the Dragon. By the way, Jin is also a Dragon as well.

On the Story Mode screen on the Japanese website, I love how Jin is the largest, Shu next, then Wei, and finally Wu in terms of sizes of the circle. It just shows that they will be focusing up to the extermination of Shu, and probably half-ass Wu's conquest.

Seriously, no one in China gives a flippin' about Wu. Think about legends and such. Have there ever been one about Wu (if there is, tell me!). And half of the time, Wu appears in Koei's games as a traitor that would backstab you most of the time (Sangokushi Koumeiden, great game)

Of the people I've talked to that are Chinese immigrants or second generation Americans, most of them know about the Three Kingdoms and actually think one of if not the biggest moments is Chi Bi/Red Cliffs.

On another note all of them regard Sun Quan as a brilliant leader (much better than Liu Bei in fact) and state that if he had not died the exact moment he did and had had a better successor, Wu might have stood a good chance of defeating Jin, because they would have conquered Shu Han first and probably could have pacified the men their to fight against Jin. Zhou Yu's also slightly famous for Chi Bi, and Sun Hao is regarded for his brutality. Other than that though, they probably have a bunch of myths, just you and I would never hear them because of Shu/Wei.

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Bng422
Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:57 am
Wei is referred to as a Phoenix because it is usually the opponent of the Dragon. By the way, Jin is also a Dragon as well.

On the Story Mode screen on the Japanese website, I love how Jin is the largest, Shu next, then Wei, and finally Wu in terms of sizes of the circle. It just shows that they will be focusing up to the extermination of Shu, and probably half-ass Wu's conquest.

Seriously, no one in China gives a flippin' about Wu. Think about legends and such. Have there ever been one about Wu (if there is, tell me!). And half of the time, Wu appears in Koei's games as a traitor that would backstab you most of the time (Sangokushi Koumeiden, great game)

Sadly, yeah, that is pretty much it. IIRC reading an abridged ROTK, Wu mostly figured in the early chapters and even then most of them were cut to show more Shu action.

Heck a small comic I have of ROTK only mentions Sun Quan in Chi Bi...in ONE SENTENCE. And that's it.
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Man, this thread just keeps moving faster and faster.... there should be an info thread in chronological order so people can reference it to see if they've missed anything. Although perhaps this close to release it isn't necessary.
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Wu does sadly get the third wheel a lot especially when it involves Zhou Yu and Chi Bi in the novel anyway, with ZHou Yu being the main planner while Zhuge Liang was just an ambassador and nothing more. Dynasty warriors from what I understand though, treat Wu a lot better than the novel.

Well in about one and a half days that Wu pv will be shown.
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I have a question. Will there be a chinese version of DW7? I've heard that there's chinese versions of previous DW games.

It's chinese text and Japanese voices, how cool is that?

I hope that there's a PS3 version for this.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-dw-49-en-70-3wb6.html
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The novel credits Zhou Yu greatly for Chi Bi, despite making him out to look like such a villain by trying to kill Liu Bei and Zhuge Liang at every chance (he might have historically, IDK)

But in terms of planning the fire attack, they both thought of that at the same time and came to agreement (I believe they wrote it on their hands and showed them at the same time) so it was neither of their ideas to attack Cao Cao with fire, it was both of theirs.

In terms of dealing with their admirals and Huang Gai, two vital pieces of the plan, it was all Zhou Yu, and no Zhuge. All he did at Chi Bi was get Sun Quan to fight Cao Cao, gather arrows, and "summon the wind".
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Prehaps I should of phrased it better in how the novel destroys Zhou Yu's personality and character for the betterment of Shu.

It wwould be great to have a surprise character but I severely doubt it.
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Xalfrea
Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:20 am
Bng422
Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:57 am
Wei is referred to as a Phoenix because it is usually the opponent of the Dragon. By the way, Jin is also a Dragon as well.

On the Story Mode screen on the Japanese website, I love how Jin is the largest, Shu next, then Wei, and finally Wu in terms of sizes of the circle. It just shows that they will be focusing up to the extermination of Shu, and probably half-ass Wu's conquest.

Seriously, no one in China gives a flippin' about Wu. Think about legends and such. Have there ever been one about Wu (if there is, tell me!). And half of the time, Wu appears in Koei's games as a traitor that would backstab you most of the time (Sangokushi Koumeiden, great game)

Sadly, yeah, that is pretty much it. IIRC reading an abridged ROTK, Wu mostly figured in the early chapters and even then most of them were cut to show more Shu action.

Heck a small comic I have of ROTK only mentions Sun Quan in Chi Bi...in ONE SENTENCE. And that's it.
oh wow, I knew Wu has always been treated as the third of the three Kingdoms, but that's crazy xD

Has it been confirmed that the Two Qiaos stage will be included in kingdom Mode?
I remember seeing it in conquest/chronicle mode (I don't even know which is official xD) ..does that mean it'll be in Kingdom too?
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Here is the picture of Gang Ning and Diao Chan, just in case anyone missed it on the last two pages.

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Crown/tiara/head garment again for Diao Chan? nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Koei why?
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:06 am
Bng422
Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:03 am
TheOneEyedWOLF
Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:57 am
iRiDiUM
Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:43 am
Hey guys, quick question on the 4 animals used to symbolize the 4 kingdoms:
Jin - Horse
Shu - Dragon
Wei - Phoenix/Bird/Hawk (I am thinking Phoenix)
Wu - Lion (possible QiLin/Kirin)

They aren't fully the 4 lucky animals of China - which are Turtle, Dragon, Phoenix and QiLin)
But it is worth pointing out that having a turtle isn't really a Warrior kind of thing.

Any ideas as to why those animals represent the kingdoms?
I can see Shu is dragon because of ZhuGe Liang, Wu is tiger because of the Sun family - somehow they are affiliated with tigerzz. Jin and Wei I don't know.
A phoenix is/was meant to represent high virtue, grace and royalty; so that might have something to do with Wei. No idea on Jin though. ^_^
Royalty is associated with Wei because Chen Shou (the author of Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms) only referred Wei as legitimate emperors, Shu as Kings, and Wu as Governors...
That makes sense then. Thanks for that. :P
a somewhat close to representing the 'FOUR DIRECTIONAL GODS'
just no turtles but then again it is way off....

i have read all the previous pages and i am feeling like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxgIfeofENs&feature=related

and for those topic about Characters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGE3rsv1Pvw


so yeah...but thank god it change....
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:41 am
Prehaps I should of phrased it better in how the novel destroys Zhou Yu's personality and character for the betterment of Shu.

It wwould be great to have a surprise character but I severely doubt it.
you have no idea how much that pissed me off..making him look like the bad guy when those Shu bastards stole Jing from Wu <_<

I hope though in DW7 they're not going to make Zhou Yu's Story like in the novel where he always tries to outsmart Zhuge Liang but fails and then dies at the end
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Her and Zhen Ji switched garments lol
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jsully16
Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:34 am
The novel credits Zhou Yu greatly for Chi Bi, despite making him out to look like such a villain by trying to kill Liu Bei and Zhuge Liang at every chance (he might have historically, IDK)

In terms of dealing with their admirals and Huang Gai, two vital pieces of the plan, it was all Zhou Yu, and no Zhuge. All he did at Chi Bi was get Sun Quan to fight Cao Cao, gather arrows, and "summon the wind".
Nope, but he wanted to seperate Liu Bei from Guan Yu and Zhang Fei in order to use them in Wu's army.

Don't forget Huang Gai! He came up with the fire attack in history, not Zhou Yu or Zhuge Liang! Why does no one remember Huang Gai. :kurokan:

From what I can make out of Diao Chan, it doesn't look too bad. There's something green on her right shoulder though, and it's bugging me...

And whaddaya know, Gan Ning doesn't have that wacko hair.
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:05 am
Relating to the latest news on the front page, anyword on whether or not PAL regions will get the opportunity for free DL's of old cosumtes?
No specific word yet, they're only confirmed for Japan. However, we did get the free costumes for Edit Mode in DW6 Empires so I figure chances are good.
Not all of them, only the first four (?)

The rest were Japan exclusive. I see that happening.
I don't know anything about Japan exclusives but I'm pretty sure we got a lot more than four. I don't have the Xbox I downloaded them for though so I can't check.

I'm trying to check on my PS3, but it's system update time so expect an answer next September I guess.

About the EU/AU release: I wish someone could ask Koei so we could be sure. I don't know who to email myself and I don't use Facebook or Twitter...
To follow up on this; finally got into PSN and checked the store (Australian so it's PAL). We got 11 sets of DLC armour for DW6 Empires: Shinobi, Arabian, Eclectic, Paladin, Desert, Artemis, Norse, Lion, Priestess, Shaman and Valkyrie. So hopefully a good sign for the DW7 DLC.
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Anyone else miffed that Koei highlighted the Zhuge name and than they don't pull through and add in Zhuge Jin?
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:10 am
Anyone else miffed that Koei highlighted the Zhuge name and than they don't pull through and add in Zhuge Jin?
Yes, that was my biggest...lolwut moment. I was nearly positive they would add Zhuge Jin in later after I saw Zhuge Dan, thus giving each of the three kingdoms (Zhuge Dan is part Wei honestly) a Zhuge.

I always thought they would add Zhuge Jin in before Zhuge Dan too, that in general was kind of weird, except I realize that they needed Jin characters.
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:04 am
Her and Zhen Ji switched garments lol
lol She looks similar to Da Ji form Warriors Orochi
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Zhuge Dan's character could have easily been handled to a Generic. The only reason they added him is becaues they'll most likely make him Shu-Bias and oppose countless odds ON HIS OWN because Wu and the Wen Family don't exist...

Apparantly.

>_>
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