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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
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Lord Rizal
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:28 am
I've just read chapter 4 of the the generals of the south is proving to be an interesting read. Especially the analysis of the battle and if it was possible for the battle to of happened.

I can see the phoneix metaphor as Jin rising from Wei. How vaild that is I'm not sure considering what happened about 20 years after the formation of Jin. I do wonder who Jin will fight from Cao Wei in the game.
All the currently playable Wei generals were dead by the time the game's 'Jin' story line begins, so I doubt we'll be seeing any of them later. However I do imagine there will be some stages detailing the conflicts between the Sima family and the later Cao family. After Cao Rui's death, the crap hit the fan between the two families and there was plenty of actual bloodshed to detail in this game.
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:02 am
No offense to those still talking about the Phoenix and so on but bringing up Chi Bi/Red Cliff does remind me of something I was wondering. That being, how are they going to handle historical defeats if they're trying to get closer to the actual history/ROTK story?

With Chi Bi as an example, playing the Wei story they could:

- Have Cao Cao's forces win the battle even though they didn't historically, with future events continuing on more or less the same anyway, as they have in previous games.
- Have the battle playable in the Wei story, but have Wu and Liu Bei still portrayed as the winners. I'm really not sure how they'd handle this since your objective playing in every battle is to win.
- Ignore it, only have the Battle of Chi Bi playable in the Wu and Shu story modes. But it's a pretty major battle and leaving it out seems odd.

I wonder what others think? How would you have them do it?
Have Liu Bei and Sun Quan win in the end. They've pulled similar stuff in SW certainly and I think DW too, the problem is the seamless transitions into battle or whatever. I guess they could always have you kill Sun Quan and Liu Bei, and then show a cutscene once the battles over of shis sinking and people burning. Or they could do what theyve always done and just add in "Though Zhang Liao (just an example I do not know whos playing chi bi if anyone for wei) tried hard his merits could not win the wei forces the battle of chi bi." Or something like that.
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Lord Rizal
Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:05 am
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:28 am
I've just read chapter 4 of the the generals of the south is proving to be an interesting read. Especially the analysis of the battle and if it was possible for the battle to of happened.

I can see the phoneix metaphor as Jin rising from Wei. How vaild that is I'm not sure considering what happened about 20 years after the formation of Jin. I do wonder who Jin will fight from Cao Wei in the game.
All the currently playable Wei generals were dead by the time the game's 'Jin' story line begins, so I doubt we'll be seeing any of them later. However I do imagine there will be some stages detailing the conflicts between the Sima family and the later Cao family. After Cao Rui's death, the crap hit the fan between the two families and there was plenty of actual bloodshed to detail in this game.
Thats what I meant. Who exactly will oppose the Sima family's road to power? We've got Cao Shuang who mosy famously tried and failed to stop. Three rebellions and all that.
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does the wu pv come out tonight/today? cause i just want to know if i take a nap that it would be up, or is it tomorrow?
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Lord Rizal
Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:05 am
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:28 am
I've just read chapter 4 of the the generals of the south is proving to be an interesting read. Especially the analysis of the battle and if it was possible for the battle to of happened.

I can see the phoneix metaphor as Jin rising from Wei. How vaild that is I'm not sure considering what happened about 20 years after the formation of Jin. I do wonder who Jin will fight from Cao Wei in the game.
All the currently playable Wei generals were dead by the time the game's 'Jin' story line begins, so I doubt we'll be seeing any of them later. However I do imagine there will be some stages detailing the conflicts between the Sima family and the later Cao family. After Cao Rui's death, the crap hit the fan between the two families and there was plenty of actual bloodshed to detail in this game.
From what the European and US sites say about the Jin Story is that Cao Pi Dies after Wu Zhang Plains before the Sima Family Rebellion.

So Im thinking it will probably be Generics of Later Wei Generals and Zhen Ji in the first battle of the Jin story.

Not Historic but i think thats what's gonna happen :mellow:

We will know the truth on the 10th of March :cool:
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Jebus
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:16 am
Lord Rizal
Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:05 am
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:28 am
I've just read chapter 4 of the the generals of the south is proving to be an interesting read. Especially the analysis of the battle and if it was possible for the battle to of happened.

I can see the phoneix metaphor as Jin rising from Wei. How vaild that is I'm not sure considering what happened about 20 years after the formation of Jin. I do wonder who Jin will fight from Cao Wei in the game.
All the currently playable Wei generals were dead by the time the game's 'Jin' story line begins, so I doubt we'll be seeing any of them later. However I do imagine there will be some stages detailing the conflicts between the Sima family and the later Cao family. After Cao Rui's death, the crap hit the fan between the two families and there was plenty of actual bloodshed to detail in this game.
From what the European and US sites say about the Jin Story is that Cao Pi Dies after Wu Zhang Plains before the Sima Family Rebellion.

So Im thinking it will probably be Generics of Later Wei Generals and Zhen Ji in the first battle of the Jin story.

Not Historic but i think thats what's gonna happen :mellow:

We will know the truth on the 10th of March :cool:
so sima yi waited for cao cao and cao pi to die before tryin to rise to power, how old was he? he outlasted a man and his son?
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:17 am
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:16 am
Lord Rizal
Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:05 am
Paragon of Light
Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:28 am
I've just read chapter 4 of the the generals of the south is proving to be an interesting read. Especially the analysis of the battle and if it was possible for the battle to of happened.

I can see the phoneix metaphor as Jin rising from Wei. How vaild that is I'm not sure considering what happened about 20 years after the formation of Jin. I do wonder who Jin will fight from Cao Wei in the game.
All the currently playable Wei generals were dead by the time the game's 'Jin' story line begins, so I doubt we'll be seeing any of them later. However I do imagine there will be some stages detailing the conflicts between the Sima family and the later Cao family. After Cao Rui's death, the crap hit the fan between the two families and there was plenty of actual bloodshed to detail in this game.
From what the European and US sites say about the Jin Story is that Cao Pi Dies after Wu Zhang Plains before the Sima Family Rebellion.

So Im thinking it will probably be Generics of Later Wei Generals and Zhen Ji in the first battle of the Jin story.

Not Historic but i think thats what's gonna happen :mellow:

We will know the truth on the 10th of March :cool:
so sima yi waited for cao cao and cao pi to die before tryin to rise to power, how old was he? he outlasted a man and his son?
This is only in-game my friend. Sima Yi served under Cao Rui after Cao Pi. And he ultimately went until Cao Fang, where he truly gained all his power.
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@Jebus I am not going off history and I dont know if Sima Yi was planning to rebel all along or he just lost his purpose after Zhuge Liang Died.

I am not going off history someone else can explain that better than I could :)
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um is there gonna be any characters revealed tonight(tomorrow) because if not im going to sleep. and can anyone give me a link of those twitter renders.
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:17 am
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Lord Rizal
Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:05 am
Paragon of Light
Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:28 am
I've just read chapter 4 of the the generals of the south is proving to be an interesting read. Especially the analysis of the battle and if it was possible for the battle to of happened.

I can see the phoneix metaphor as Jin rising from Wei. How vaild that is I'm not sure considering what happened about 20 years after the formation of Jin. I do wonder who Jin will fight from Cao Wei in the game.
All the currently playable Wei generals were dead by the time the game's 'Jin' story line begins, so I doubt we'll be seeing any of them later. However I do imagine there will be some stages detailing the conflicts between the Sima family and the later Cao family. After Cao Rui's death, the crap hit the fan between the two families and there was plenty of actual bloodshed to detail in this game.
From what the European and US sites say about the Jin Story is that Cao Pi Dies after Wu Zhang Plains before the Sima Family Rebellion.

So Im thinking it will probably be Generics of Later Wei Generals and Zhen Ji in the first battle of the Jin story.

Not Historic but i think thats what's gonna happen :mellow:

We will know the truth on the 10th of March :cool:
so sima yi waited for cao cao and cao pi to die before tryin to rise to power, how old was he? he outlasted a man and his son?
Yup. I'm pretty sure he was only in his 40s when he started his rivalry with Zhuge Liang (the Northern Expeditions) AND because Cao Pi died like when he was in his mid 30s. He outlasted a man, his son, his grandson and lived to serve his GREAT grandson. That's how Wei started to destabilize: The emperors were dying way too early and the new emperors were too young and inexperienced so they could easily be manipulated.
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:26 am
um is there gonna be any characters revealed tonight(tomorrow) because if not im going to sleep. and can anyone give me a link of those twitter renders.
No, we will have characters revealed next week
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But according to history he was a very loyal to Cao Cao and his family, i think it was his sons that were the traitors not Sima Yi himself. I think he took over because Cao Fang was to weak, after all it was still Wei until Sima Yan came along, who was his grandson.
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:31 am
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:26 am
um is there gonna be any characters revealed tonight(tomorrow) because if not im going to sleep. and can anyone give me a link of those twitter renders.
No, we will have characters revealed next week
damn well i guess ill check again next week and can someone tell me the known characters to be revealed i have a guess but i wanna know for sure.
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:38 am
But according to history he was a very loyal to Cao Cao and his family, i think it was his sons that were the traitors not Sima Yi himself. I think he took over because Cao Fang was to weak, after all it was still Wei until Sima Yan came along, who was his grandson.
Its debatable whether or not Sima Yi's coup was out of a sense of loyalty. If his aim was to simply remove power from Cao Shuang, whom was the Regent and pretty pathetic, then Sima Yi would have simply removed Cao Shuang and his immediate allies. However Sima Yi went out of his way to eliminate and kill off many of the Cao Family members including Cao Shuang's infant children, wiping out his entire family line.

The debate is mentioned slightly in Fei Yi's SGZ Bio, whom was a Shu official.
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DarkMantisTalon
Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:46 am
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:31 am
DarkMantisTalon
Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:26 am
um is there gonna be any characters revealed tonight(tomorrow) because if not im going to sleep. and can anyone give me a link of those twitter renders.
No, we will have characters revealed next week
damn well i guess ill check again next week and can someone tell me the known characters to be revealed i have a guess but i wanna know for sure.
I don't think any new characters will be revealed; it'll just be the old returning ones who'll we'll be seeing next, like Gan Ning and Diao Chan. The scan that's upcoming next week should be the last scan for revealing characters too.
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DarkMantisTalon
Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:26 am
um is there gonna be any characters revealed tonight(tomorrow) because if not im going to sleep. and can anyone give me a link of those twitter renders.
No, we will have characters revealed next week
damn well i guess ill check again next week and can someone tell me the known characters to be revealed i have a guess but i wanna know for sure.
I don't think any new characters will be revealed; it'll just be the old returning ones who'll we'll be seeing next, like Gan Ning and Diao Chan. The scan that's upcoming next week should be the last scan for revealing characters too.
wow cool, i cant wait for it but isnt the unrevealed characters:

gan ning
diao chan
pang tong
wei yan

and thats it right?
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:31 am
DarkMantisTalon
Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:26 am
um is there gonna be any characters revealed tonight(tomorrow) because if not im going to sleep. and can anyone give me a link of those twitter renders.
No, we will have characters revealed next week
damn well i guess ill check again next week and can someone tell me the known characters to be revealed i have a guess but i wanna know for sure.
I don't think any new characters will be revealed; it'll just be the old returning ones who'll we'll be seeing next, like Gan Ning and Diao Chan. The scan that's upcoming next week should be the last scan for revealing characters too.
wow cool, i cant wait for it but isnt the unrevealed characters:

gan ning
diao chan
pang tong
wei yan

and thats it right?
Xu Huang and Huang Gai as well.
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But according to history he was a very loyal to Cao Cao and his family, i think it was his sons that were the traitors not Sima Yi himself. I think he took over because Cao Fang was to weak, after all it was still Wei until Sima Yan came along, who was his grandson.
Its debatable whether or not Sima Yi's coup was out of a sense of loyalty. If his aim was to simply remove power from Cao Shuang, whom was the Regent and pretty pathetic, then Sima Yi would have simply removed Cao Shuang and his immediate allies. However Sima Yi went out of his way to eliminate and kill off many of the Cao Family members including Cao Shuang's infant children, wiping out his entire family line.

The debate is mentioned slightly in Fei Yi's SGZ Bio, whom was a Shu official.
Harsh much Sima Yi :crazy:

Maybe he didn't want them seeking revenge or he felt that the Caos were weakening or he picked the right moment for him to become emperor, I doubt he would've have done it with Cao Cao or Cao Pi around. Wiping out a whole family line is cruel though, well at least he kept the name Wei.
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damn well i guess ill check again next week and can someone tell me the known characters to be revealed i have a guess but i wanna know for sure.
I don't think any new characters will be revealed; it'll just be the old returning ones who'll we'll be seeing next, like Gan Ning and Diao Chan. The scan that's upcoming next week should be the last scan for revealing characters too.
wow cool, i cant wait for it but isnt the unrevealed characters:

gan ning
diao chan
pang tong
wei yan

and thats it right?
Xu Huang and Huang Gai as well.
ohh yea thanks forgot well all those in one reveal, i really cant wait
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OMG Diao Chan???

http://pc.duowan.com/news/20100817/1282025397.shtml

Sorry that's from DW6.
Edited by Darkraids, Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:31 am.
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If there is a new character reveal, i tmight be a Jin character.Im hoping for Chunhua, but I doubt it somehow.
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I will ROFL/ be so happy if they pull something like a "surprise here's Wen Yang," next week. Though honestly if we have another character that hasn't been revealed yet, I would say it's highly likely that they are not in kingdom mode, and thus an other.
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i wanna see more DLC pics, like upgraded outfits and speaking of outfits i hope we get more than dw6 gave us wit just two colors, i want atleast 4, but aleast were getting old outfits, i love zhao yun dw4 outfit
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Considering DW7's JP release date is the Thursday after next, next week's Famitsu scans can finish revealing the last 6 characters since they could do 6 at one go previously, they are running out of time.

This week's Wu PV MIGHT not show Huang Gai and Gan Ning since they are not revealed yet. :/
Edited by LilLuXun, Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:45 am.
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So I've skimmed through some posts and I'm still confused... Is there or is there not going to be a new character announced in the next character release?

My bets on Wen Yang, Cheng Pu, Guo Jia or Pang De. Who cares about a character roster screenshot. Koei might have changed the roster since that shot was taken.

I am a little doubtful about this "new character" being announced though...

So the Wu PV's tomorrow.... COME ON THE TWO QIAOS!!! :D :P
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