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| JayHawk | Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:43 am Post #2376 |
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I fight for JUSTICE!!!!
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Not even the wife.... A Concubine.... Which is... Well you know XD It annoys me that KOEI put aside amazing warriors like Liao Hua, Wang Ping, and Pang De for more wives and pointless warriors like Suo. |
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| WuTiger123 | Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:43 am Post #2377 |
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Who knew my ZHou Cullen comment would go onto a topic about character likeness to Twishite ![]() Anyway... Chronicle mode seems to be free mode and legend mode incorporated into one, we dont know how it is like free mode, but this will become known when the game has been properly released and not speculated form screenshots Also, I think DLC characters isn;t ttally out of the question but I think KOEI firstly needs to add new unique weapons for characters who at the moment share a weapon, heck maybe give everyone a secondary EX weapon but that will have some complications for example, for Musou attacks, which EX weapon. |
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| Im LuBu | Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:49 am Post #2378 |
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What is a "Concubine", and I thought he made her empress after she died which is a bit ironic, do u not think so?
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| WarHawk | Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:50 am Post #2379 |
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Where did bandana go?
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No... you could not see him. It`s Zhang Liao with two halberds. We may hope on dlc... If Koei is going to add characters in it.
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| jsully16 | Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:52 am Post #2380 |
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A concubine was for the lord's satisfaction. So they slept with concubines. Wives were for giving them kids and taking care of them and nothing more. I can't remember what Lady Bu was, I remember reading she was Sun Quan's wife, but can't remember. Needless to say, it's beyond unbelievable how awful a choice of character she was. Lian Shi also isn't even a name, it means "protector" or something similar in chinese. But hey, you say anything like that here you get flogged, as majority people here are supporters of Koei who flock against anyone to say something against the great game developer. |
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| Im LuBu | Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:57 am Post #2381 |
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Wow so that is a concubine, I have just lost so much respect for them to be like that, but oh well they are long dead and women are no longer treated like that ... So u say it was Zhang Liao but Pang De, why though he looks like Pang De and even has his weapon, what happened to the Zhang Liao in DW5 and before? |
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| RandomGuySaysHi | Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:59 am Post #2382 |
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MASTER OF CHEESEWHIZ
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Diao Chan was a concubine for Lu Bu, so its nothing new to the series. |
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| JayHawk | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:02 am Post #2383 |
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I fight for JUSTICE!!!!
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Honestly, I don't care if people get mad if I say something against certain characters... I'm not sexist but I don't like that theres so many females... I know the game needs them, but I'd without a doubt replace 1 or 2 of them for better warriors than characters like Lian Shi and Zhu Rong.... Sheesh.... Well, perhaps DW8 will be more focused on TRUE Dynasty Warriors, not some lady that slept with Sun Quan.
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| Xu Yuan | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:02 am Post #2384 |
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Yes, but in DW there is never a mention of Lady Cao... or his other wife whose name I can't recall. |
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| Darkraids | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:02 am Post #2385 |
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Sorry but Lian Shi is really Sun Quan's wife. And her full name is Bu Lian Shi, Koei just took her surname away. |
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| dancingswan | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:02 am Post #2386 |
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I absolutely hate when people say how worthless a character is. YES. I know Lian Shi did nothing at all to impact history, but who is too say Koei has something in store for her. I don't go around bashing Ma Chao, or Pang De, or other fan favorites, because I understand that there may be fans of that character, and I respect them. ![]() Anyway Lian Shi isn't just going to be Quan's wife, she isn't one dimensional as some women end up being. She is also going to be one of SSX's maidens. ![]() It's just kind of mean when you don't even know what she'll be like. ![]() ANYWAY. Cannot wait for that Wu PV. Lian Shi and Ding Feng will most likely been shown. Seeing as they a both new characters, and both of them have weapons not seen yet. I would suspect characters with movesets that haven't been seen yet in the PVs. Like Zhou Yu (I would like to see Yue Ying though.), and SSX. I would rather see Sun Quan at the end then either Papa Jian, or Sun Ce. Mainly since they only did foundation work. Sun Quan was the actual leader of Wu. ![]() I wouldn't be surprised to see Sun Jian, but Sun Ce is unlikely. Edited by dancingswan, Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:03 am.
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| Im LuBu | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:02 am Post #2387 |
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Really, I thought it was a lover situation, but it was not was it? |
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| Daikyō | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:02 am Post #2388 |
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I'm ready to serve you all
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aahh finally this day has come, can't wait for Wu PV, they should extend the PV duration since Wu has 16 character, at least 10-14 of them must be appeared in PV whether it's gameplay demo/cutscene
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| RandomGuySaysHi | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:08 am Post #2389 |
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MASTER OF CHEESEWHIZ
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this is more of the "after i read it in the novel, discussion comes up on this site" thing for me. Lu Bu had two wives, one died before she could have any children, and the other gave him one daughter, and Diao Chan, aka Cicada, was his only concubine. so if that says anything to you in terms of if it was a love thing or not, then your welcome! |
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| jsully16 | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:08 am Post #2390 |
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Well, historically the character she's built out of was some concubine that was shared by Dong Zhuo and Lu Bu and had nothing to do with the assassination. Lu Bu did it out of ambition for power. Diao Chan in the novel was the main reason Lu Bu killed Dong Zhuo because he did deeply care for her, but they weren't married and had no kids. Concubines were cared for by the men they served, probably more than their wives. It was a different time, and their culture seems alien to us, but Lu Bu did care for Diao Chan even though she was his concubine, not his wife. |
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| JayHawk | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:08 am Post #2391 |
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Unlike Lian Shi, Ma Chao and Pang De are actual Dynasty Warriors, and they actually fought on the battlefield, and risked their lives for their beloved land. Tell me thats not better than Lian Shi... But I'm not going to start a fight. Nope. I'll just carry on to a different topic before a whole army comes after me..... I hope the Wu PV shows Zhou Tai... He's one of the very few characters with a UNIQUE moveset. And same with Sun Ce and Taishi Ci. |
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| jsully16 | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:11 am Post #2392 |
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Not only that but Ma Chao was a phenominal warrior who had Cao Cao in awe before he had him stripping down and dressing as a lowly private to run and hide from him. He wasn't that great overall, but he took the western capital and almost killed Cao Cao. Pang De brought his coffin to battle to say he'd either win or die trying. How badass is that? Lian Shi had sex with a guy who called her empress after she died. Cool. And her story in Koei doesn't sound that great either. IMO at least. |
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| Xu Yuan | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:12 am Post #2393 |
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To be fair Lu Bu's hand was moved fairly heavily by Wang Yun, even in history. The mastermind behind the plot to kill Dong Zhuo is still always considered to be Wang Yun. |
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| jsully16 | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:13 am Post #2394 |
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Agreed ^ I was just saying that he didn't do it because of Diao Chan, but because of ambition. It was entirely thought up by Wang Yun though. |
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| Blaziruku | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:14 am Post #2395 |
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Understand your post, both sides have perfect reasons, so it's pretty much a stalemate. KOEI can give her w/e she can be, but that pretty much takes away from the opportunities of adding a bit more *history* to it, but there are truly *worthless* characters, even if they can be made good, etc (which we all know Bao Sainning will be annoying anyways...) It's all made up and not at least on some degree historical (at least back in DW5, 4, 3) they had more historical characters and didn't *enlarge* SOMETHING, and they had impact on the story (except Zuo Ci, and those two mystical's forgot the names lol) It's a bit saddening, you know? I personally don't get why they would add back almost every char (except for the *fictional* Zuo Ci and Pang De) and then add some new characters (most were nice, Ding Feng, Jia Xu, Jin, etc) but then I guess Guan Suo needs a wife for some reason? It just doesn't make much sense. They can make up w/e, but at least stay partially on history, which they've been slowing falling off the edge. WU PV tom, HURRAY |
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| dancingswan | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:15 am Post #2396 |
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This won't be a fight, it will be a discussion. ![]() OF COURSE SHE DIDN'T FIGHT. She was a woman, and at the time women didn't fight. I know this, and I know it well. Lian Shi is a perfectly fine add. No certain character is better in the overall scheme of things. All the characters add something the other couldn't. It builds story, and conflict. Ma Chao adds a certain aspect to the game Lian Shi can't, and vice versa.
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| WuTiger123 | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:17 am Post #2397 |
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We do not know how Lian Shi will play out throughout the sotry, for me I hope she is like a Kunoichi character for SSX and Sun Quan but mainly the latter, I would like to see someone save Sun Quans ass who isn't Zhou Tai haha even have a rivalry between Lian Shi and Zhou Tai haha |
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| Shadowclaimer | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:18 am Post #2398 |
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General who Pacifies the Fools
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I don't know, Ma Chao (even as a failure) was better than.. say.. King Mulu as an add. |
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| JayHawk | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:19 am Post #2399 |
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Agreed.... That explains why Ma Chao and Pang De are some of my favorite characters. They're just simply badass warriors.... However in my opinion Ma Chao shined the most before they joined Liu Bei. |
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| Squidlipticus | Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:20 am Post #2400 |
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If a character doesn't have a moveset that is exclusive to him/her, than that character has no real identity in the game. All this game seems to be offering is 60+ outfits. |
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