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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v5] (SPOILERS); SPOILERS BEWARE! GAMEPLAY VIDEOS/INFO INSIDE!
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Topic Started: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:01 pm (735,602 Views)
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:12 am
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You people sure know how to take the joy out of a game..seriously..With the way everyone is talking, it makes it sound like the end of the world. But, what can one expect from people who have such high expectations these days? Our generation is truly f***** xD
But I am curious..How does one exactly join a faction in Conquest/Chronicle Mode? Do we have a conversation with that representative of the faction in the town area? And also, it said something like 'if you're friendly, you'll get to play in those factions battles'. I am interested to see how it all works out in the end.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:13 am
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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I'm pretty sure the story will focus more on Sun Ce untill Chibi... Than it's all Zhou Yu before his death. Than it'll be Hefei than it's now Lu Xun time!
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Zhang_Chunhua
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:15 am
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Sima Yi apologize or I will starve to death our sons and myself for this!!
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Do u guys really wish everything was like in the novel???? R u guys serious!!!
You really wish Zhang He was not gay as portrait in the game?
Xiahou Yuan not been funny like?
Sun Ce not being so enegetic???
Wei Yan not being so...stone age??
Ling Tong not sarcastic??? really??
If the base a game exactly like the novel or the "important events" in history it would only appeal a very small audience, good if u want to make a game is real things but bad if you try to sell it.
making a game based only in historical events or "important people" does not make a game more interesting or increase sells.
The reason why Koei adds the "unimportant" people, the drama or the "fake" personalities is to increase their sells and their audience.
A large variety means a greater chance to appeal to "those" who think DW games are bad, and increase sells.
Remmeber is not like Koei wants to make u happy, is that the want to sell more to more people. So if you compare a group of 100 who want a characacter to return (is a hipotetical example) to a group of 1000 who wish they add a totally new character. The answere is simple, the group of 1000 will win.
my point here is that Koei does what they think is better for sells, so if the suddenly think that switching the gender of all character to the oposite one, they would do it. and even if u don't like, if more people like it than u like it u r scru.
so please stop complaning about everything, they have a reason to add the "fake" or "unimportant" characters. and even if u don't like it, if it increases sells than u r scru, they would keep doing it. This is power of the market
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:18 am
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They always refer to the women as capable of holding there own or defending themselves, never as warriors suggesting they were fighters even though they may have never made it on the battlefield to showcase their talent they were still trained.
I,like to think of this as KOEI telling the tales that never would have been told, by sexist men, who viewed women as concubines and baby makers,
Proving they are not there ancestors and choosing to tell tales dtom all view pionts of the kingdoms and not just the I'm a badass with a weapon on the field....
Just my opinion...=]
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JayHawk
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:18 am
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Spoiler: click to toggle I absolutely hate when people say how worthless a character is. YES. I know Lian Shi did nothing at all to impact history, but who is too say Koei has something in store for her. I don't go around bashing Ma Chao, or Pang De, or other fan favorites, because I understand that there may be fans of that character, and I respect them.  Anyway Lian Shi isn't just going to be Quan's wife, she isn't one dimensional as some women end up being. She is also going to be one of SSX's maidens.  It's just kind of mean when you don't even know what she'll be like.  ANYWAY. Cannot wait for that Wu PV. Lian Shi and Ding Feng will most likely been shown. Seeing as they a both new characters, and both of them have weapons not seen yet. I would suspect characters with movesets that haven't been seen yet in the PVs. Like Zhou Yu (I would like to see Yue Ying though.), and SSX. I would rather see Sun Quan at the end then either Papa Jian, or Sun Ce. Mainly since they only did foundation work. Sun Quan was the actual leader of Wu.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Sun Jian, but Sun Ce is unlikely.
Unlike Lian Shi, Ma Chao and Pang De are actual Dynasty Warriors, and they actually fought on the battlefield, and risked their lives for their beloved land. Tell me thats not better than Lian Shi... But I'm not going to start a fight. Nope. I'll just carry on to a different topic before a whole army comes after me..... I hope the Wu PV shows Zhou Tai... He's one of the very few characters with a UNIQUE moveset. And same with Sun Ce and Taishi Ci.
This won't be a fight, it will be a discussion.  OF COURSE SHE DIDN'T FIGHT. She was a woman, and at the time women didn't fight. I know this, and I know it well. Lian Shi is a perfectly fine add. No certain character is better in the overall scheme of things. All the characters add something the other couldn't. It builds story, and conflict. Ma Chao adds a certain aspect to the game Lian Shi can't, and vice versa. 
No.... IMO Lian Shi doesn't bring anything new to the game at all... Besides a new weapon (Crossbow) and a little bit more of a story to SSX and Quan. She's just another wife aiding her husband (in this case... sleeping partner) in war... Ma Chao IS a better character in DW than Lian Shi. Obviously. IMO, a good female add that would actually bring some good for the game is Ma Yunlu... She's fictional, yes... AND she is a wife to Zhou Yun, but she also has many ties to characters in the game, and she fought on the battlefield...
First Lian Shi is Sun Quan's consort. Second Sun Quan wanted to make her his principal wife but his ministers argued for Lady Xu. Quan decided to put it off because Lady Xu long lost favor with him and was sent away. Even though she wasn't empress yet the people within the palace called her so and she was greatly loved. She ended up dying and Quan regretted not making her Empress before she died. So he made her empress in her death. Its obvious why Lian Shi is in if you understand whats going on in the story. Wu will focus on Sun Quan alot this time around so why not add his favorite wife into game. For all we know Lian Shi may well be a better character in DW than Ma Chao. We don't even know all they are going to do Lian Shi or Ma Chao in DW7. Lian Shi could end up being the more interesting character easy. You guys agrue about Bao Sanniang being fictional and want fictional Ma Yunlu, please. Lian Shi! All you did was further explain why Lian Shi is an absolute pointless add. She didn't do ANYTHING to put an end to the Chaos and unite the land. All she was, was Sun Quan's beloved sleeping partner, and SSX's mentor.
You made me laugh when you said She might be better than Ma Chao.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:20 am
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You people sure know how to take the joy out of a game..seriously..With the way everyone is talking, it makes it sound like the end of the world. But, what can one expect from people who have such high expectations these days? Our generation is truly f***** xD
Trevor, stop right there buddy, it's not long ago that you were leveling your complaints about the game as well and standing up for your reason to complain as a consumer.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:21 am
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Do u guys really wish everything was like in the novel???? R u guys serious!!! You really wish Zhang He was not gay as portrait in the game? Xiahou Yuan not been funny like? Sun Ce not being so enegetic??? Wei Yan not being so...stone age?? Ling Tong not sarcastic??? really?? If the base a game exactly like the novel or the "important events" in history it would only appeal a very small audience, good if u want to make a game is real things but bad if you try to sell it. making a game based only in historical events or "important people" does not make a game more interesting or increase sells. The reason why Koei adds the "unimportant" people, the drama or the "fake" personalities is to increase their sells and their audience. A large variety means a greater chance to appeal to "those" who think DW games are bad, and increase sells. Remmeber is not like Koei wants to make u happy, is that the want to sell more to more people. So if you compare a group of 100 who want a characacter to return (is a hipotetical example) to a group of 1000 who wish they add a totally new character. The answere is simple, the group of 1000 will win. my point here is that Koei does what they think is better for sells, so if the suddenly think that switching the gender of all character to the oposite one, they would do it. and even if u don't like, if more people like it than u like it u r scru. so please stop complaning about everything, they have a reason to add the "fake" or "unimportant" characters. and even if u don't like it, if it increases sells than u r scru, they would keep doing it. This is power of the market  I agree with this completely,except on one point.
;You really wish Zhang He was not gay as portrait in the game?'
He wasen't gay,he is not gay. He had four sons in history.Even Koei has never said he was gay.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:23 am
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You people sure know how to take the joy out of a game..seriously..With the way everyone is talking, it makes it sound like the end of the world. But, what can one expect from people who have such high expectations these days? Our generation is truly f***** xD
Trevor, stop right there buddy, it's not long ago that you were leveling your complaints about the game as well and standing up for your reason to complain as a consumer. True, but that was then, and this is now. It is getting very tiring now seeing everyone whine & ***** every single day about the same exact things when (and here's the kicker) NO ONE HAS EVEN PLAYED THE DAMN GAME THEMSELVES!
I am not going to complain any further until I have the game in my own hands and can pass judgment myself, not from the mouths of others. We live in a very spoiled age where everyone thinks that they can get things their way if they whine & cry enough.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:23 am
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uh can we stop with the whole Lian Shi worthless add whoever better add argument please because it kinda IS getting old we went through this with the Qiaos, Bao, and now Lian Shi
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:24 am
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Wow. Quite the little "fun discussion" you're all having.
I'll give this woman a chance. Now provided there are others who could of been chosen. But it's too late for that to change. But for those to be good adds, example Lu Kang, Yang Hu would of had to been added.
Besides, should we really be arguing when the pv is just around the corner? Who knows, her crossbow ex could be a redeeming value.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:28 am
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Love,hate, tragedy, and war.
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deep Spoiler: click to toggle I absolutely hate when people say how worthless a character is. YES. I know Lian Shi did nothing at all to impact history, but who is too say Koei has something in store for her. I don't go around bashing Ma Chao, or Pang De, or other fan favorites, because I understand that there may be fans of that character, and I respect them.  Anyway Lian Shi isn't just going to be Quan's wife, she isn't one dimensional as some women end up being. She is also going to be one of SSX's maidens.  It's just kind of mean when you don't even know what she'll be like.  ANYWAY. Cannot wait for that Wu PV. Lian Shi and Ding Feng will most likely been shown. Seeing as they a both new characters, and both of them have weapons not seen yet. I would suspect characters with movesets that haven't been seen yet in the PVs. Like Zhou Yu (I would like to see Yue Ying though.), and SSX. I would rather see Sun Quan at the end then either Papa Jian, or Sun Ce. Mainly since they only did foundation work. Sun Quan was the actual leader of Wu.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Sun Jian, but Sun Ce is unlikely.
This won't be a fight, it will be a discussion.  OF COURSE SHE DIDN'T FIGHT. She was a woman, and at the time women didn't fight. I know this, and I know it well. Lian Shi is a perfectly fine add. No certain character is better in the overall scheme of things. All the characters add something the other couldn't. It builds story, and conflict. Ma Chao adds a certain aspect to the game Lian Shi can't, and vice versa. 
No.... IMO Lian Shi doesn't bring anything new to the game at all... Besides a new weapon (Crossbow) and a little bit more of a story to SSX and Quan. She's just another wife aiding her husband (in this case... sleeping partner) in war... Ma Chao IS a better character in DW than Lian Shi. Obviously. IMO, a good female add that would actually bring some good for the game is Ma Yunlu... She's fictional, yes... AND she is a wife to Zhou Yun, but she also has many ties to characters in the game, and she fought on the battlefield...
First Lian Shi is Sun Quan's consort. Second Sun Quan wanted to make her his principal wife but his ministers argued for Lady Xu. Quan decided to put it off because Lady Xu long lost favor with him and was sent away. Even though she wasn't empress yet the people within the palace called her so and she was greatly loved. She ended up dying and Quan regretted not making her Empress before she died. So he made her empress in her death. Its obvious why Lian Shi is in if you understand whats going on in the story. Wu will focus on Sun Quan alot this time around so why not add his favorite wife into game. For all we know Lian Shi may well be a better character in DW than Ma Chao. We don't even know all they are going to do Lian Shi or Ma Chao in DW7. Lian Shi could end up being the more interesting character easy. You guys agrue about Bao Sanniang being fictional and want fictional Ma Yunlu, please. Lian Shi!
All you did was further explain why Lian Shi is an absolute pointless add. She didn't do ANYTHING to put an end to the Chaos and unite the land. All she was, was Sun Quan's beloved sleeping partner, and SSX's mentor. You made me laugh when you said She might be better than Ma Chao. Clearly someone didn't understand that I was saying she might be better than Ma Chao storywise for the game. If you think that all she did was sleep with Sun Quan than thats just sad. She handled the inside of the home like she was suppose to do. No, she wasn't Shang Xiang's mentor that is something koei made up.
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Aye I'm going to be honest until dlc weapons/movesets come out I'm am going to be pissed on the new combat system. As for taking the charge attack out it reminds me of halo reach because they use to have dual Weild but took it out I'n halo reach for some dumbe reason.
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Do u guys really wish everything was like in the novel???? R u guys serious!!! You really wish Zhang He was not gay as portrait in the game? Xiahou Yuan not been funny like? Sun Ce not being so enegetic??? Wei Yan not being so...stone age?? Ling Tong not sarcastic??? really?? If the base a game exactly like the novel or the "important events" in history it would only appeal a very small audience, good if u want to make a game is real things but bad if you try to sell it. making a game based only in historical events or "important people" does not make a game more interesting or increase sells. The reason why Koei adds the "unimportant" people, the drama or the "fake" personalities is to increase their sells and their audience. A large variety means a greater chance to appeal to "those" who think DW games are bad, and increase sells. Remmeber is not like Koei wants to make u happy, is that the want to sell more to more people. So if you compare a group of 100 who want a characacter to return (is a hipotetical example) to a group of 1000 who wish they add a totally new character. The answere is simple, the group of 1000 will win. my point here is that Koei does what they think is better for sells, so if the suddenly think that switching the gender of all character to the oposite one, they would do it. and even if u don't like, if more people like it than u like it u r scru. so please stop complaning about everything, they have a reason to add the "fake" or "unimportant" characters. and even if u don't like it, if it increases sells than u r scru, they would keep doing it. This is power of the market  Yeah, I know how KOEI markets... They want to attract as many people as possible, which is why they give different personalities and twist up the stories a bit... Its also why they added pointless characters like Bao and Lian Shi. Thats why I'm pissed off though. Because KOEI doesn't have any respect for TRUE Warriors of the Three Kingdoms.
And in my opinion... It would make a lot more people happy if they added characters like Zhu Ran, Liao Hua, and Cheng Pu. But you know what? I'm over it now. I'm not going to b**** about it any longer. I'm going to judge the game only after I play it.
So lets start a new topic now shall we?....
The Wu PV is coming right? But what about the Shu PV? And will they ever have an Other PV?
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:31 am
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You people sure know how to take the joy out of a game..seriously..With the way everyone is talking, it makes it sound like the end of the world. But, what can one expect from people who have such high expectations these days? Our generation is truly f***** xD
Trevor, stop right there buddy, it's not long ago that you were leveling your complaints about the game as well and standing up for your reason to complain as a consumer.
True, but that was then, and this is now. It is getting very tiring now seeing everyone whine & ***** every single day about the same exact things when (and here's the kicker) NO ONE HAS EVEN PLAYED THE DAMN GAME THEMSELVES! I am not going to complain any further until I have the game in my own hands and can pass judgment myself, not from the mouths of others. We live in a very spoiled age where everyone thinks that they can get things their way if they whine & cry enough. Hahahahah! Trevor, u gotta calm down with all these tantrums and outbursts u seem to be having. If you find what people do annoying, just ignore it and simply discuss something of importance. Your so feisty, I swear! Lawd!
Anyways, "if" we are supposedly getting the Wu Pv tonight, then im only interested in seeing how the da qiao and xiao qiaos fans vary in style. Also seeing how the nunchuks and crossbow interest me as well. Oh and the newly named "Wheels" LOL
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You people sure know how to take the joy out of a game..seriously..With the way everyone is talking, it makes it sound like the end of the world. But, what can one expect from people who have such high expectations these days? Our generation is truly f***** xD
Trevor, stop right there buddy, it's not long ago that you were leveling your complaints about the game as well and standing up for your reason to complain as a consumer.
True, but that was then, and this is now. It is getting very tiring now seeing everyone whine & ***** every single day about the same exact things when (and here's the kicker) NO ONE HAS EVEN PLAYED THE DAMN GAME THEMSELVES! I am not going to complain any further until I have the game in my own hands and can pass judgment myself, not from the mouths of others. We live in a very spoiled age where everyone thinks that they can get things their way if they whine & cry enough.
Hahahahah! Trevor, u gotta calm down with all these tantrums and outbursts u seem to be having. If you find what people do annoying, just ignore it and simply discuss something of importance. Your so feisty, I swear!  Lawd! Anyways, "if" we are supposedly getting the Wu Pv tonight, then im only interested in seeing how the da qiao and xiao qiaos fans vary in style. Also seeing how the nunchuks and crossbow interest me as well. Oh and the newly named "Wheels" LOL I agree.... I want to see the Chakrams in action... Although I couldn't care less about the fans.... I also want to see how the crossbow differs from the bow.
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Do u guys really wish everything was like in the novel???? R u guys serious!!! You really wish Zhang He was not gay as portrait in the game? Xiahou Yuan not been funny like? Sun Ce not being so enegetic??? Wei Yan not being so...stone age?? Ling Tong not sarcastic??? really?? If the base a game exactly like the novel or the "important events" in history it would only appeal a very small audience, good if u want to make a game is real things but bad if you try to sell it. making a game based only in historical events or "important people" does not make a game more interesting or increase sells. The reason why Koei adds the "unimportant" people, the drama or the "fake" personalities is to increase their sells and their audience. A large variety means a greater chance to appeal to "those" who think DW games are bad, and increase sells. Remmeber is not like Koei wants to make u happy, is that the want to sell more to more people. So if you compare a group of 100 who want a characacter to return (is a hipotetical example) to a group of 1000 who wish they add a totally new character. The answere is simple, the group of 1000 will win. my point here is that Koei does what they think is better for sells, so if the suddenly think that switching the gender of all character to the oposite one, they would do it. and even if u don't like, if more people like it than u like it u r scru. so please stop complaning about everything, they have a reason to add the "fake" or "unimportant" characters. and even if u don't like it, if it increases sells than u r scru, they would keep doing it. This is power of the market  Hmm? I believe you missed the counter-argument for this. There is no drama to add from fictional adds that those with an actual story and contribution and genuine interaction with the current roster can't add more effectively.
Casuals don't know jack about the novel or history, let alone about obscure myths and legends that might be attached to them. So it would make no difference to them; a new character is a new character whether its someone like Wen Yang or someone who's non-existent like Guan Suo, all that matters is the end design that they see.
For those in this for the casual appeals can be pleased with just a cool design, designing those who actually existed and are important, and giving *them* the cool design is the way to make everyone happy.
Guan Suo is not going to increase sales, because Guan Suo is just a name. The design that Koei attached to Guan Suo is what could/would be selling this game to some casuals.
By the way personally, I have no problem with Lian Shi, because she actually existed. I have no problem with any *female* add so long as they existed in actuality or within the novel.
And yeah, I actually do wish Zhang He wasn't as flamboyant as he's often portrayed. It sucks because the actual man was quite bad ass.
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You people sure know how to take the joy out of a game..seriously..With the way everyone is talking, it makes it sound like the end of the world. But, what can one expect from people who have such high expectations these days? Our generation is truly f***** xD
Trevor, stop right there buddy, it's not long ago that you were leveling your complaints about the game as well and standing up for your reason to complain as a consumer.
True, but that was then, and this is now. It is getting very tiring now seeing everyone whine & ***** every single day about the same exact things when (and here's the kicker) NO ONE HAS EVEN PLAYED THE DAMN GAME THEMSELVES! I am not going to complain any further until I have the game in my own hands and can pass judgment myself, not from the mouths of others. We live in a very spoiled age where everyone thinks that they can get things their way if they whine & cry enough. well said, i may complain but not much here but on the topic for complain and issue but there is no point in complain if you don't have the game....yet
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:34 am
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There will be a SW7 demo event here where I live. I'll tell you guys how does the game feel if I have the chance to try it
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:35 am
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You know the funny part, Keneticam? I write all these things with a smile on my face You take my words as anger, when they really aren't. But, this being the interwebs, you can't see the emotion on my face.
Anywho! No one answered my previous question about how we're gonna be able to join factions and stuff....And I thought that was a pretty good question '-_-
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:37 am
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You people sure know how to take the joy out of a game..seriously..With the way everyone is talking, it makes it sound like the end of the world. But, what can one expect from people who have such high expectations these days? Our generation is truly f***** xD
Trevor, stop right there buddy, it's not long ago that you were leveling your complaints about the game as well and standing up for your reason to complain as a consumer.
True, but that was then, and this is now. It is getting very tiring now seeing everyone whine & ***** every single day about the same exact things when (and here's the kicker) NO ONE HAS EVEN PLAYED THE DAMN GAME THEMSELVES! I am not going to complain any further until I have the game in my own hands and can pass judgment myself, not from the mouths of others. We live in a very spoiled age where everyone thinks that they can get things their way if they whine & cry enough. That was then, this is now?
It was like, last week or something.
You need to chill dude. You are always on the edge of your seat during whatever stance you are taking.
No one has to play the game to voice their displeasure about character adds that they don't like either. That has nothing to do with gameplay. However, your complaints were gameplay related and you did not play it yourself. (Not saying I disagree with your concerns, just that you need to see what you are saying.)
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:37 am
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(If I can say something kind of off topic, I actually partly just complain for the sake of debate... I love debating.... The other part is that I'm actually really pissed off at KOEI..)
OT: So, IF there was DLC characters..... Who'd get in? Most likely an Other character... I'd say. And, I'd also say Pang De has a big chance...
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:39 am
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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I'm guessing you didn't read my post at all... No I don't want everyone to be EXACTLY the same. I will understand that certian liberties are taken based on the characters of the Novel. What I don't like is when a random nobody, that did nothing, gets in and they have literally nothing to work with and a huge number of liberties are taken to try and make them look interesting when they weren't.
Even well-known BAMFs aren't immune to this. Xu Zhu is an example of 'doing' but far too much liberty is taken to fill a niche(Stupid Strong Fat Guy) that has destroyed the character.
As for capable women... Tell me.
Do ANY of the Qiao's or SSX from DW6 look like they're capable at all?
Edited by SazukeEX, Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:41 am.
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Mie Mie
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:41 am
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Stop it really , koei added whom they think better , they will make the game not us! And still we are GOING to buy it ! Right? Im not bothered by Anyone add, I was a while a go but it just won't change anything !
So let's give the game & characters a chance ! Let's play it first then we can really complain with Real reasons ! Ok? Koei truly are trying hard this time ( VA is out of this),,
^^ WU PV plz come fast!
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:41 am
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- WhiteHorseRide
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You people sure know how to take the joy out of a game..seriously..With the way everyone is talking, it makes it sound like the end of the world. But, what can one expect from people who have such high expectations these days? Our generation is truly f***** xD
Trevor, stop right there buddy, it's not long ago that you were leveling your complaints about the game as well and standing up for your reason to complain as a consumer.
True, but that was then, and this is now. It is getting very tiring now seeing everyone whine & ***** every single day about the same exact things when (and here's the kicker) NO ONE HAS EVEN PLAYED THE DAMN GAME THEMSELVES! I am not going to complain any further until I have the game in my own hands and can pass judgment myself, not from the mouths of others. We live in a very spoiled age where everyone thinks that they can get things their way if they whine & cry enough.
That was then, this is now? It was like, last week or something. You need to chill dude. You are always on the edge of your seat during whatever stance you are taking. No one has to play the game to voice their displeasure about character adds that they don't like either. That has nothing to do with gameplay. However, your complaints were gameplay related and you did not play it yourself. (Not saying I disagree with your concerns, just that you need to see what you are saying.) You done yet? Because if you're not, we can do this all day if you'd like. Quite frankly, If you don't like what I have to say, simply add me to your ignore list & be done with it. You don't have to respond to every thing I say. If I was personally saying something against you, trust me, I would say it. I don't hold back anything for anyone.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:42 am
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- Celestial
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deep Spoiler: click to toggle I absolutely hate when people say how worthless a character is. YES. I know Lian Shi did nothing at all to impact history, but who is too say Koei has something in store for her. I don't go around bashing Ma Chao, or Pang De, or other fan favorites, because I understand that there may be fans of that character, and I respect them.  Anyway Lian Shi isn't just going to be Quan's wife, she isn't one dimensional as some women end up being. She is also going to be one of SSX's maidens.  It's just kind of mean when you don't even know what she'll be like.  ANYWAY. Cannot wait for that Wu PV. Lian Shi and Ding Feng will most likely been shown. Seeing as they a both new characters, and both of them have weapons not seen yet. I would suspect characters with movesets that haven't been seen yet in the PVs. Like Zhou Yu (I would like to see Yue Ying though.), and SSX. I would rather see Sun Quan at the end then either Papa Jian, or Sun Ce. Mainly since they only did foundation work. Sun Quan was the actual leader of Wu.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Sun Jian, but Sun Ce is unlikely. better in the overall scheme of things. All the characters add something the other couldn't. It builds story, and conflict. Ma Chao adds a certain aspect to the game Lian Shi can't, and vice versa. 
No.... IMO Lian Shi doesn't bring anything new to the game at all... Besides a new weapon (Crossbow) and a little bit more of a story to SSX and Quan. She's just another wife aiding her husband (in this case... sleeping partner) in war... Ma Chao IS a better character in DW than Lian Shi. Obviously. IMO, a good female add that would actually bring some good for the game is Ma Yunlu... She's fictional, yes... AND she is a wife to Zhou Yun, but she also has many ties to characters in the game, and she fought on the battlefield...
First Lian Shi is Sun Quan's consort. Second Sun Quan wanted to make her his principal wife but his ministers argued for Lady Xu. Quan decided to put it off because Lady Xu long lost favor with him and was sent away. Even though she wasn't empress yet the people within the palace called her so and she was greatly loved. She ended up dying and Quan regretted not making her Empress before she died. So he made her empress in her death. Its obvious why Lian Shi is in if you understand whats going on in the story. Wu will focus on Sun Quan alot this time around so why not add his favorite wife into game. For all we know Lian Shi may well be a better character in DW than Ma Chao. We don't even know all they are going to do Lian Shi or Ma Chao in DW7. Lian Shi could end up being the more interesting character easy. You guys agrue about Bao Sanniang being fictional and want fictional Ma Yunlu, please. Lian Shi!
All you did was further explain why Lian Shi is an absolute pointless add. She didn't do ANYTHING to put an end to the Chaos and unite the land. All she was, was Sun Quan's beloved sleeping partner, and SSX's mentor. You made me laugh when you said She might be better than Ma Chao.
Clearly someone didn't understand that I was saying she might be better than Ma Chao storywise for the game. If you think that all she did was sleep with Sun Quan than thats just sad. She handled the inside of the home like she was suppose to do. No, she wasn't Shang Xiang's mentor that is something koei made up. I think that's why it wouldn't be such an excellent idea, considering KOEI has never been good with the *loving* part, + It would be quite boring to view cutscenes of them inside the home and all, which furthers the point on why there isn't much , + since its DW, she's on the battlefield, so you saying she's taking with the home and etc, and KOEI being a pretty and company at that, you have a lose 
@Huang Yueying Well I can slap you in the face. More does not mean DUH THERE WILL BE MORE CLONES. But you can do the math, percentage wise. + the fact that most of the males were actually historical fighting figures, and technically making them the same as another character is a sort of insult. I know that none are technically clones, and WE don't even know if they will be unique overall, but right now I'm going by category, etc. (if it's different past the normal attack x3 w/e, I'm fine with it.)
5/12 = 41% of the females are clones.
NOW let's look at the males. 34/44 = 77% of the males are clones
That's almost about DOUBLE the *same* weapons. Don't give me no crap about OH THERE ARE MODE DUDES BLAH BLAH BLAH.
KOEI had pretty much unique weapons from DW3-5 for pretty much everyone, without them sharing the same *general* look and outline (EX Jia Xu chain thing, pretty much like Cao Ren's, but different tip.)
I pray that I am wrong when I play the game and that when unique weapons are available, they will be different movesets.
Use MATH! That's why they teach you it to you can see the probability of things, and so far, 71% chance of males being clones, and 41% for females.
DUHHHHHHHHHHHH
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