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Characters Without Cutscenes? [spoilers]; Who missed out on screen time?
Topic Started: Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:27 pm (3,028 Views)
WarriorOfWu
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OK so I know a bunch of characters don't have Kingdom mode stages, but I was wondering who (if anyone) missed out on featuring in any cutscenes.

I already know of:

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I also heard that Ma Chao had very limited screen time.

Anyways, for some reason this is something I really would like to find out (I'm not sure why, I'm just weird like that) and would be very grateful if anyone has any info! :)
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Zhange Tai
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Okay I can help: Here are the list of characters who did not have a stage in story mode:
Lian Shi, Ding Feng, Da Qiao, Xiao Qiao, Taishi Ci, Zhou Tai, Xu Huang, Cao Ren, Cai Wenji, Zhen Ji, Xiahou Ba, Bao Sanniang, Ma Chao, Xing Cai, Yue Ying, Liu Shan, Guan Ping, Wei Yan, and Ma Dai...

As for the cutscenes: The Qiaos, Cai Wenji, Bao Sanniang, Xu Huang, Zhou Tai, Yue Ying, Xing Cai did not appear in cutscenes...(these are the people I will double check again....)


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Pang Tong
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It's disappointing that some characters received little, or no, screen time.
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NickxEternity
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I'm glad at least Zhen got a little attention, even if its very minor.
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Zhange Tai
Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:02 am
As for the cutscenes: The Qiaos, Cai Wenji, Bao Sanniang, Xu Huang, Zhou Tai, Yue Ying, Xing Cai did not appear in cutscenes...(these are the people I will double check again....)


It's very annoying. I thought she would at least have a cutscene. :kurokan:
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Frayling0
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This does make me wonder if the rumour about DLC Kingdom Mode stages (rather than Conquest) could turn out to be true, to accommodate some of the new characters. As much as I think it's unlikely, you never know...
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Zhange Tai
Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:02 am
As for the cutscenes: The Qiaos, Cai Wenji, Bao Sanniang, Xu Huang, Zhou Tai, Yue Ying, Xing Cai did not appear in cutscenes...(these are the people I will double check again....)


NOOOO! :kurokan:

Even just a bit? Nothing?

Oh well. I would appreciate ALL of them get some screen time.
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Viajeras
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It's especially frustrating that seven of those with no story mode stages are brand new characters. Why even add them in the first place if they're not going to be used for story mode aside from some cutscenes? I mean, I'm not against their inclusion by any means - quite the opposite - but it just seems silly.
And perhaps it's absurd for me to say this considering I really don't think I'll like her, but Bao Sanniang not getting a single cutscene even though she's new seems kind of stupid. It almost proves that there was absolutely no point in adding her if she doesn't do anything during the main story.
Xu Huang not getting anything is probably one of my biggest frustrations about this game so far though.
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Rydain
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Viajeras
Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:49 pm
Xu Huang not getting anything is probably one of my biggest frustrations about this game so far though.
Yep. My #1 peeve with this game is its trend of phoning in secondary characters. There are so many blown opportunities to give a character some moment of meaningful screen presence, even if the battle remains focused on someone else. I thought we'd at least see some brief highlights, sort of like the character-specific cut scenes in DW5's musou modes.

Does Cao Ren have any interesting cut scene roles? I saw one where he was pretty much just standing there - maybe with one line that I missed - while Cao Cao, Xiahou Dun, and/or Xiahou Yuan had a conversation.
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Gaz
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There's a scene in the middle of Chi Bi Part 2 where Cao Ren breaks through a rockslide with his weapon, allowing Cao Cao's forces to escape from the pursuing Wu forces.
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Frayling0
Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:55 am
This does make me wonder if the rumour about DLC Kingdom Mode stages (rather than Conquest) could turn out to be true, to accommodate some of the new characters. As much as I think it's unlikely, you never know...
I honestly wouldn't put this past Koei though, they were making us pay for DLC (Legends, Empires) before any other company was doing this. I have a feeling they are going to be doing a lot of DLC with this game, it's what Koei does. They will do anything to get an extra dollar from their consumers.

I won't be mad though really. If this means more screen time for certain characters then I'm totally down. I'm just interested on how they would go about doing it. Would they just add new maps additionally to the kingdom modes or would they implement a legends mode.
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WarriorOfWu
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Zhou Tai, Yue Ying and Xu Huang all should have appeared in cut scenes! I mean I can deal with not playing as them, but not having them have a significant impact whatsoever just seems really dumb.

I also agree about Bao Sanniang. She has been like the poster girl this time round, and yet no cut scenes for her? That just doesn't make sense! :P

(note: I'm not counting the opening as a cutscene)
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Viajeras
Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:49 pm
It's especially frustrating that seven of those with no story mode stages are brand new characters. Why even add them in the first place if they're not going to be used for story mode aside from some cutscenes? I mean, I'm not against their inclusion by any means - quite the opposite - but it just seems silly.
And perhaps it's absurd for me to say this considering I really don't think I'll like her, but Bao Sanniang not getting a single cutscene even though she's new seems kind of stupid. It almost proves that there was absolutely no point in adding her if she doesn't do anything during the main story.
Xu Huang not getting anything is probably one of my biggest frustrations about this game so far though.
I agree with you here.
I also like the inclusions of characters, but for them to be added and be kind of "ignored" like that is not good for them.
The thing is, those are just cutscenes, they can have good roles in-game for all we know (I don't know anything since I don't have the game yet).
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wait isn't there a whole level dedicated to Zhuo Tai saving Sun Quan and hes not in a cutscene, or am i just dreaming that this level is in the game, or maybe its in conquest only?
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WarriorOfWu
Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:55 pm
Zhou Tai, Yue Ying and Xu Huang all should have appeared in cut scenes! I mean I can deal with not playing as them, but not having them have a significant impact whatsoever just seems really dumb.

I also agree about Bao Sanniang. She has been like the poster girl this time round, and yet no cut scenes for her? That just doesn't make sense! :P

(note: I'm not counting the opening as a cutscene)
Pretty insulting to Yue Ying after she was shafted in 6. I remember her appearing in one cut scene, it showed her name with a caption, then moved back to Zhuge Liang. She didn't say a word.

Fair enough, she got a Musou in Special, but I never played special. :blush:
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Zhange Tai
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I am reviewing the scenes again even the endings cutscenes...yeah the names I have given are the ones that doesn't have cutscences...but do appear in battles (Kingdom Mode): Yue Ying, Zhou Tai, Xing Cai, and Xu Huang.

The Qiaos, Bao Sanniang, and Cai Wenji does not even appear in battle whatsoever in Kingdom Mode....
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Reverie
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Lmao they actually got away with doing the same stuff they did with DW 6 they really did, the reason they got away with it was with conquest mode aka extreme legends to an extent, weilding any weapon, more than two weapons, and sima yi force I don't really think of them as Jin. Also what's up with the remixes of the main song were as the only one I like is jin so far. Lol if xiahou dun participated at wu Zhang I'n history I'm sure Wei story mode aka xiahou dun story mode would end at wu Zhang plains. Though dlc can eithake or break this game.

They could of atleast showed everyone at some point I'n time I'n kingdom mode.
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They showed the sexiest girls for KM in cutscenes A.K.A tidday girls Lian Shi and Wang Yuan Ji soooooo unfair,to show SSX was a given but not even showing YY and XC are baffling to me and especially Bao.... when they were treating her like the new DW poster girl
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Zhange Tai
Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:15 am
I am reviewing the scenes again even the endings cutscenes...yeah the names I have given are the ones that doesn't have cutscences...but do appear in battles (Kingdom Mode): Yue Ying, Zhou Tai, Xing Cai, and Xu Huang.

The Qiaos, Bao Sanniang, and Cai Wenji does not even appear in battle whatsoever in Kingdom Mode....
bao sanniang not in any battles.... thats music to my ears, but why would they even bother putting in new characters if they're not even going to be used in the game?
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WarriorOfWu
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:04 am
Zhange Tai
Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:15 am
I am reviewing the scenes again even the endings cutscenes...yeah the names I have given are the ones that doesn't have cutscences...but do appear in battles (Kingdom Mode): Yue Ying, Zhou Tai, Xing Cai, and Xu Huang.

The Qiaos, Bao Sanniang, and Cai Wenji does not even appear in battle whatsoever in Kingdom Mode....
bao sanniang not in any battles.... thats music to my ears, but why would they even bother putting in new characters if they're not even going to be used in the game?
Yeah. Like I'm not a fan of Bao, but I mean Koei were really putting her out there. It's a shock she hasn't appeared in any cut scenes!
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DLC Stages for the Story Mode, probably. :whistle:
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LolitaMajin
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What a laziness KOEI -*-
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:04 pm
DLC Stages for the Story Mode, probably. :whistle:
Could be. I'm rather certain that several characters weren't playable in Kingdom Mode to get more people to play Conquest, so maybe some characters were left out to sell more DLC. It would be a logical business decision and Koei has confirmed DLC stages; just hasn't if they're Conquest or Kingdom or both.
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Yet again, the Qiao's have been ditched story-wise.
I don't know why they don't include their part in Ch Bi! Could add much more depth to them, Zhou Yu and Cao Cao. I see no disadvantages.
It frustrated that such potentially deep characters are bunked, it's as if they're only added due to their historical fame.

Bao, QIaos and Cai not getting stories is even more annoying, i was really hoping that DW7 would be the game that really has the best story yet, with it being Kimgdom stories. But in the end, many characters were flunked, like always. -.-

Particularly surprised about Bao though, she's being used as the poster girl pretty much, yet with no cutscenes or stages. Pathetic.

and the whole Wei Yan relation with Zhuge Liang was totally cut? That's silly, it'd add depth for Ma Dai, Wei Yan, Zhuge Liang, Huang Zhong, Jiang Wei, Liu Bei and even Yue ying, if they wished for her too. I see no reason for them to have added Ma Dai, other than filling up the Later-Shu side battles, eventhough they already had tons of later characters.

Extremely simple things were left out, would've been easy to include any of these; even if they only got one stage, for their highlighted battle.
I mean, for Cai Wenji all they needed to do was to add the stage that she gets kidnapped by the Xiong Nu, then being saved by Cao Cao. Then all they'd need to do after that would be to add Cai in the background of other cutscenes, by Cao Cao's side. Simple things like these could go long ways in terms of character development...

Really dissapointed, the story was the most exciting part of this game, for me :/
I clearly expected way too much >.<
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I personally would of thought Ma Chao, of all people would be given a few cutscenes. I think he has one of the most intresting stories, with the battle of Tong Gate.
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