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Sengoku Musou 3 Empires; August 2011
Topic Started: Tue May 31, 2011 2:42 am (81,393 Views)
SRS
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What kind of story would the Azai have with this system? They never beat anyone besides the Rokkaku once and Nobunaga at Kanegasaki and Usayama, wherein he then tore them to pieces afterwards. That'd be one tiny map.

All the clans with stories here conquered a bunch of other clans, which is the focus of Empires.
Edited by SRS, Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:16 pm.
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RevenantHero
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I got over the fact that SW3:E wasn't coming overseas then I see those pictures.... Damn it Koei just bring the game over here -_- . (And port it to the 360 please ^_^ )
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What kind of story would the Azai have with this system? They never beat anyone besides the Rokkaku once and Nobunaga at Kanegasaki and Usayama, wherein he then tore them to pieces afterwards. That'd be one tiny map.

All the clans with stories here conquered a bunch of other clans, which is the focus of Empires.
Yeah, that's sort of true. I guess Nagamasa won't be playable in any clan then, although the same applies to certain other characters as well, such as Yoshimoto.

Anyway, I'm still confused of the story. Is it that you select a clan, then play a stage after another with pre-determined character like in DW7. Or is there are certain area (like in the pic which shows Nobunaga's clan highlighted) and you can freely attack any territory there?
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The closest to this I can think of is the clan stories from Nobunaga no Yabou 13, which has a strikingly similar set-up.

Take for example if you pick the Hojo clan; you're free to attack the Satomi, Satake and Nagano any order you like, and different events occur when you've either taken a certain number of territories or upon wiping out one of the enemy clans, or just after a certain amount of time passes.

In this, I imagine if you pick Nobunaga, you could end up defeating the Mori in Chugoku before ever fighting the Takeda at Nagashino depending on your choices of how to expand.

Not sure where you're getting the idea of predetermined characters; this is an Empires game afterall.
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Yeah thanks for clearing up. I meant with the pre-determined character thing that you'll just play a sequence of historical battles with that clan, kinda like 10 long story modes.

But now I understood, it's that you can freely attack nearly territories. There is probably fixed characters for each clan, and you can select whichever character you want for each conflict.
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I just want to play a SW game in the U.S. I dont care for features. ;/
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I don't know about you guys, but I'm signing that petition anyways. I don't care what that Matheus guy says, I'm not giving up hope untill the CEO of Tecmo gives me a call tells me himself it won't happen. I'm not callin Matheus a liar, I'm just sayin it won't hurt anything to go ahead and sign.
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It also won't do any good :hehe:
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Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:46 pm
I don't know about you guys, but I'm signing that petition anyways. I don't care what that Matheus guy says, I'm not giving up hope untill the CEO of Tecmo gives me a call tells me himself it won't happen. I'm not callin Matheus a liar, I'm just sayin it won't hurt anything to go ahead and sign.

it will be a waste of time and the koei ceo won't give you a call either. just accept the fact that koei screwed up.

i'm hoping for a sw4 or wo3 announcement at tgs but even that is unlikely
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Now seeing those screenshots...it makes me wanna import the damn game, but SW3:Empires can wait :D (il buy it when i go to Japan this October and it'l be cheaper there :D )

SSM6:Mushouden is my TOP priority :sly:
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Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:34 am
Im_A_Ninja_92
Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:46 pm
I don't know about you guys, but I'm signing that petition anyways. I don't care what that Matheus guy says, I'm not giving up hope untill the CEO of Tecmo gives me a call tells me himself it won't happen. I'm not callin Matheus a liar, I'm just sayin it won't hurt anything to go ahead and sign.

it will be a waste of time and the koei ceo won't give you a call either. just accept the fact that koei screwed up.

i'm hoping for a sw4 or wo3 announcement at tgs but even that is unlikely
I'm starting to think that people hate for my petition... And I wonder if people realized that I am Matheus... Well, Chin himself said it'll not come Overseas. But you can still sign the petition and see what happens.

Regarding the game, I wonder if some of those useless clans from SW2E have been replaced with the important ones such as the Amago and Honganji. BTW, SW2E had 150 Officers and this one has over 600! That's really a good number! Maybe they can even use those SW1 Designs of Saito Dosan and Honganji Kennyo with semi-unique movesets! That would be AWESOME!
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Even if that's true it literally only takes 2 seconds to sign the thing and then you can go on about your day pretending like it never happened. I'm just sayin its not that hard and doesn't hurt to try. I posted the link on my facebook 20 minutes ago and already have a couple signatures. The absolute worst thing that can happen is that it doesn't work, and if that's the case then we are already prepared for that dissapointment anyways. What's the fun if nobody hopes for the what if?
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Really want this game to come to Europe. Ever since I brought SW3 I was thinking "Can't wait to lay my hands on SW3E" and when the news finally comes it breaks my heart to read it (maybe) won't come to Europe.

I'm so disappointed at Koei ever since I read that and will be too if it not comes here.
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The Trailer for SW3:Empires has been announced!! Check it out!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkhM6y6yV9k

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So unfair!! All this awesome stuff on the trailer but WE western fans won't be getting the game.....
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Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:44 am
So unfair!! All this awesome stuff on the trailer but WE western fans won't be getting the game.....
^ Took the words right out of my mouth. >_>

I really hope that Koei makes it up to us westerners after this awesome game. >_>
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Their CAW system is leagues better than DW's IMO.... I want it.... so bad.... Damn you Koei. grrrr.
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Eh, I wouldn't say it's better in all regards. DW6E had way more options when it came to hair/clothing variety.

Looks like the CAW is the same as SW3's... was hoping they would add a few more selections.
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Barnzi88
Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:44 am
So unfair!! All this awesome stuff on the trailer but WE western fans won't be getting the game.....
So true. Damn Koei and their stupid decisions!

Importing is not an option for me, because I don't understand japanese and not gonna learn it either just for the sake of one game.

Well, I just hope there will be SW4 for us western fans and it will be a PROPER SW sequel for 360 and PS3...
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Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:40 am
Barnzi88
Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:44 am
So unfair!! All this awesome stuff on the trailer but WE western fans won't be getting the game.....
So true. Damn Koei and their stupid decisions!

Importing is not an option for me, because I don't understand japanese and not gonna learn it either just for the sake of one game.

Well, I just hope there will be SW4 for us western fans and it will be a PROPER SW sequel for 360 and PS3...
Even though we're talking about Empires game, I'm sure playing the game wouldn't be that hard with decent translation guide. I learned from my experience with SM3Z that if you're able to recognize 1-5 letters from the sentence, it's easy to deduce what it means.

I'm just disappointed that we finally have Empires game with Story mode, it's not released overseas. Also makes you wonder how much they're going to flesh out certain NPCs. Motonari, Motochika and Yoshihiro are the only playable in their clans, so they're definitely going to need NPCs as support characters.
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Even though we're talking about Empires game, I'm sure playing the game wouldn't be that hard with decent translation guide. I learned from my experience with SM3Z that if you're able to recognize 1-5 letters from the sentence, it's easy to deduce what it means.

I'm just disappointed that we finally have Empires game with Story mode, it's not released overseas. Also makes you wonder how much they're going to flesh out certain NPCs. Motonari, Motochika and Yoshihiro are the only playable in their clans, so they're definitely going to need NPCs as support characters.
Well, the stories certainly would be hard to understand, because I doubt someone would make a translation guide of all stories. For me, they're big part of the game, so it would be disappointing of not understanding "what's going on". Besides, when I watched SW3 cutscenes in JP, I thought they talked about something totally different after watching them in english.

You were from Finland too, like I am? Doesn't some people say japanese and finnish languages sound a bit alike? Vai oonko mä nyt ihan väärässä? :D
Edited by Fūma, Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:32 pm.
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Can someone give me the link to that petition please? :)
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I doubt you would miss much. Fortunetly, these games don't have RPG quality stories and since we're talking about Empires game, I'd say gameplay has much bigger part.

Joo, on ne äänteet lähes samanlaiset. Date on ihan Date (eikä esim "deit", kuten englanniksi äännetään). Jos tarinoilla nyt on noin iso merkitys, niin todennäkösesti käännökset julkastaan koei.wiki sivustossa, niin että sieltä voi lukea. Ja itte ainakin tajusin jonkun Nobunagan tarinan ihan helvetin hyvin ilman käännöksiä. Joku Okuni oliki sitten paljon vaikeampi tapaus. Eli aika paljon riippuu itte hahmosta, kuinka helppo sen tarina on ymmärtää.
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damn it why i watch the trailer? now i want the game even more, oh well lets just hope that KOEI will chance their minds and release it overseas if posible for X box 360 too.
Edited by ZhaoThun, Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:28 pm.
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Arrrgh, that trailer :wub: I really hope Koei change their minds because I don't want to miss out on another SW3 expansion..

And something different, the Hosokawa will most likely just be subordinates of the Tokugawa right? Although didn't they have a brief alliance with the Oda?
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