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Sengoku Musou 3 Empires; August 2011
Topic Started: Tue May 31, 2011 2:42 am (81,391 Views)
Masato
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Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:48 pm
Well, in the Patent I saw 1-2 months ago it was stated as a Software for SONY and Nintendo Hardware...

Damn, I can't wait for TGS! I want to take a look in the many things that Tecmo Koei has to reveal! XD

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Can you talk about this patent/where you saw it? Im confused! :confused:

It's in the Japanese Patent Directory registered as:

New Sengoku Musou Game Installment
Software for Sony and Nintendo Hardware

I don't know much about it but it may be announced at this year TGS, alongside the game I saw.

Im_A_Ninja_92
 
Hey guys, I know a lot of you don't care but for those of you that still do the petition is already up to 800 signatures lets keep it up!

Good that the Petition is still alive! I'll try to do something to convince the guys that I know inside KOEI Europe. If I get any news, I'll update you guys.
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Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:32 pm
Good that the Petition is still alive! I'll try to do something to convince the guys that I know inside KOEI Europe. If I get any news, I'll update you guys.
Awesome :dance: thanks Matheus!
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I love SW games and I don't want to do same as I do with BASARA games (Play in Japanese)... I can't promise anything, I'll just try to convince them! FREE MASONRY-RELATED POWERS ACTIVATED XD
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Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:27 pm
I'm personally hoping to see some serious changes in movesets and combat system overall. Characters like Magoichi, Keiji, Yukimura, Tadakatsu, Okuni etc. have basically remained unchanged since SW/XL moveset-wise. If they're going to keep Normal/Special/Charge style, then switch them around between characters or come up with new ones. But who knows, there are pretty good chances that next SW will also receive some kind of weapon switch system similiar to DW7.
I really hope SW4 is gonna revamp everything and take a DW6-turn, only without some of it's bad sides (such as mass-cloning).

When you think about it, SW3 failed to introduce any new big concept to the series. Movesets remained unchanged, they added only like two attacks and took out one special attack from most characters. Stories followed the same system as in SW2, except dream stages are not present, but that's not an improvement. Stages were not anything like in DW6 (with all elevated terrain and swimming...), they were not anything spectacular. Graphics were barely improved, the framerate and game speed honestly sucked a lot.

In a nutshell, they increased quantity but failed to improve quality.

So I hope SW4 is gonna take some hell of a fresh directions for this series, otherwise it will be doomed to be bashed due to lack of evolution.
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Wait, do you need game data from the original game in order to play empires!?

*is a total retard*



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Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:15 pm
Wait, do you need game data from the original game in order to play empires!?

*is a total retard*
Hmm..? Where did you hear that?

I'm sure you don't need, it wouldn't make any sense
Edited by Fūma, Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:38 pm.
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I was told by someone that in order to play any empires game you need data from the original version. Eg, SW2 + SW2E.

So obviously I'm downright wrong, right?
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Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:17 pm
Im_A_Ninja_92
Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:12 pm
Hey guys, I know a lot of you don't care but for those of you that still do the petition is already up to 800 signatures :D lets keep it up!
wow thats awesome, too bad koei still ain't gonna release it >_>
Yeah but maybe they'll see it and add english subtitles so we can all import :)
English subtitles for a Japanese audience? Koei would have zero incentive to do that. For the small amount of people who would import, it wouldn't be worth it.They might as well just do a proper localization then. But alas, they are not going to do that. Why? Simple. $$$$$$. They don't think SW sells well enough outside of Japan to justify the cost. That makes me worry about SW4.


Edited by Ling-ling, Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:13 am.
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Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:25 am
I was told by someone that in order to play any empires game you need data from the original version. Eg, SW2 + SW2E.

So obviously I'm downright wrong, right?
Yes, you have been mis-informed. I actually bought samurai warriors 2 empires and played it BEFORE i ever bought the original game so no you don't have to have the regular game to play an empires even though it is technically an expansion. Hope that helps ^_^
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Coolio. Glad it wasn't as others claimed it to be.

Now I can go buy SW2E and have fun!
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Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:17 pm
Im_A_Ninja_92
Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:12 pm
Hey guys, I know a lot of you don't care but for those of you that still do the petition is already up to 800 signatures :D lets keep it up!
wow thats awesome, too bad koei still ain't gonna release it >_>
Yeah but maybe they'll see it and add english subtitles so we can all import :)
English subtitles for a Japanese audience? Koei would have zero incentive to do that. For the small amount of people who would import, it wouldn't be worth it.They might as well just do a proper localization then. But alas, they are not going to do that. Why? Simple. $$$$$$. They don't think SW sells well enough outside of Japan to justify the cost. That makes me worry about SW4.


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SW3 didn't sell well because it was a Wii exclusive and was pretty much the same as SW2.
SW2 had great sales. The games sales were so good that they actually released it on the 360 and made a PC port for it.
If SW4 be made next gen like DW6,7 and release it overseas it will definitely do great like SW2. But considering this Sony and Nintendo technology I highly doubt it will come overseas and if it does it will probably be PS3 and Wii.
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Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:33 am
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Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:11 am
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Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:25 pm
Maeda Toshiie
Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:17 pm
Im_A_Ninja_92
Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:12 pm
Hey guys, I know a lot of you don't care but for those of you that still do the petition is already up to 800 signatures :D lets keep it up!
wow thats awesome, too bad koei still ain't gonna release it >_>
Yeah but maybe they'll see it and add english subtitles so we can all import :)
English subtitles for a Japanese audience? Koei would have zero incentive to do that. For the small amount of people who would import, it wouldn't be worth it.They might as well just do a proper localization then. But alas, they are not going to do that. Why? Simple. $$$$$$. They don't think SW sells well enough outside of Japan to justify the cost. That makes me worry about SW4.


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SW3 didn't sell well because it was a Wii exclusive and was pretty much the same as SW2.
SW2 had great sales. The games sales were so good that they actually released it on the 360 and made a PC port for it.
If SW4 be made next gen like DW6,7 and release it overseas it will definitely do great like SW2. But considering this Sony and Nintendo technology I highly doubt it will come overseas and if it does it will probably be PS3 and Wii.
If SW4 is going to be released soon, I would bet it'll be on both PS3 and Wii U (Since NO games are released in Wii, just one each 6 months XD) and with a released date between May and July 2012, if it's announced in TGS 2011. And if it's going to be released in both PS3 and Wii U, it'll come Overseas for sure!

I wonder which characters will be added in SW4...

Talking about Empires, we can expect to have a completely new Empires Mode Style, right? I think it'll be pretty similar to Nobunaga's Ambition Rise to Power. My Only Complain is that we get just one new land to conquer! They should add loads of generics, clans and add over 125 castles like Nobunaga's Ambition games!

P.S. Still waiting for a Oversea Release of Nobunaga no Yabou Tendo... :kurokan:
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Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:13 pm
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Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:33 am
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Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:11 am
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Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:25 pm
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Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:17 pm

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepHey guys, I know a lot of you don't care but for those of you that still do the petition is already up to 800 signatures :D lets keep it up!
Yeah but maybe they'll see it and add english subtitles so we can all import :)
English subtitles for a Japanese audience? Koei would have zero incentive to do that. For the small amount of people who would import, it wouldn't be worth it.They might as well just do a proper localization then. But alas, they are not going to do that. Why? Simple. $$$$$$. They don't think SW sells well enough outside of Japan to justify the cost. That makes me worry about SW4.


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SW3 didn't sell well because it was a Wii exclusive and was pretty much the same as SW2.
SW2 had great sales. The games sales were so good that they actually released it on the 360 and made a PC port for it.
If SW4 be made next gen like DW6,7 and release it overseas it will definitely do great like SW2. But considering this Sony and Nintendo technology I highly doubt it will come overseas and if it does it will probably be PS3 and Wii.
If SW4 is going to be released soon, I would bet it'll be on both PS3 and Wii U (Since NO games are released in Wii, just one each 6 months XD) and with a released date between May and July 2012, if it's announced in TGS 2011. And if it's going to be released in both PS3 and Wii U, it'll come Overseas for sure!
Don't forget Xbox 360! :P :hehe:

If SW4 comes out for PS3 then it should also be on 360. It will probably PS3 exclusive in Japan but overseas also on 360.
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Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:38 pm
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Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:13 pm
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Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:33 am
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Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:11 am
Im_A_Ninja_92
Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:25 pm

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepHey guys, I know a lot of you don't care but for those of you that still do the petition is already up to 800 signatures :D lets keep it up! Yeah but maybe they'll see it and add english subtitles so we can all import :)
English subtitles for a Japanese audience? Koei would have zero incentive to do that. For the small amount of people who would import, it wouldn't be worth it.They might as well just do a proper localization then. But alas, they are not going to do that. Why? Simple. $$$$$$. They don't think SW sells well enough outside of Japan to justify the cost. That makes me worry about SW4.


-_____________-

SW3 didn't sell well because it was a Wii exclusive and was pretty much the same as SW2.
SW2 had great sales. The games sales were so good that they actually released it on the 360 and made a PC port for it.
If SW4 be made next gen like DW6,7 and release it overseas it will definitely do great like SW2. But considering this Sony and Nintendo technology I highly doubt it will come overseas and if it does it will probably be PS3 and Wii.
If SW4 is going to be released soon, I would bet it'll be on both PS3 and Wii U (Since NO games are released in Wii, just one each 6 months XD) and with a released date between May and July 2012, if it's announced in TGS 2011. And if it's going to be released in both PS3 and Wii U, it'll come Overseas for sure!
Don't forget Xbox 360! :P :hehe:

If SW4 comes out for PS3 then it should also be on 360. It will probably PS3 exclusive in Japan but overseas also on 360.
Damn
But he said Sony and Ninendo hardware and didn't mention the 360?
that means we can forget it?
damn it koei damn it!! >_>
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I'm talking about a Japanese Release, and I doubt they would port it to X360 again. I think SW3Z and SW3E will not be released because TK spent too much with that port.

I saw it as a Software for SONY and NINTENDO Hardware. But that's registered in Japan, TKE may port it to X360 (Which is a bad move.)
Edited by Masato, Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:19 pm.
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So this means we can forget the 360?
Well that was a waste of 450 euros >_>


Why the hell is it a bad move?
it's a good move really
1) America and EU has more X360 then PS3
2) If they make it next gen it will sell good for sure besides DW7 wasn't that bad here
3) They won't lose anymore fans outside Japan they already lost allot due to SW3 and if we 360 fans don't get it then well another bad move and more loss of fans for koei
Edited by YukiZM, Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:23 pm.
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Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:48 pm
if us westerners don't have a localization, I just hope Koei put in an option to turn the subtitles in english (they don't have to put english Va), then I'd import it. After all, the PS3 is region free, Koei doesn't need to localise, just put these damn subtitles in and everyone would be pleased...
just a thought, though....
I totally agree, that's all it would take for a bunch of people to import it and its not that hard to put it in there
Eh... still wouldn't be worth shelling out the extra $20 for shipping/handling, as well as currency exchange (CURSE YOU FAILING AMERICAN DOLLAR!!!).

Looking nice, but once again, any enthusiasm on my part is wasted. To those that do get the game, have fun for me.
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Ok thanks!! Hope it happens!

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I agree. I never imported a game nor do I plan on doing it.

Plus, I feel a if SW 4 will only be on Wii(or wii u) and ps3. It feels like xbox has small chance. Maybe they'll go the DW 6 route and put it on all systems?
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Ok thanks!! Hope it happens!

@Chibigingi
I agree. I never imported a game nor do I plan on doing it.

Plus, I feel a if SW 4 will only be on Wii(or wii u) and ps3. It feels like xbox has small chance. Maybe they'll go the DW 6 route and put it on all systems?
I've imported video games twice, and regret one of them. The second one wasn't so bad, but then again, I paid considerably little. The other one, though... yeah, that was just stupid on my part.

Stupid DW6.

Should have just gotten the artbook off Ebay.

IF this was coming out for the Wii, at least I'd have my own little act of revenge, but I don't think it is. So, no money from me. I'd rather take my chance waiting for SW4.
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Ok thanks!! Hope it happens!

@Chibigingi
I agree. I never imported a game nor do I plan on doing it.

Plus, I feel a if SW 4 will only be on Wii(or wii u) and ps3. It feels like xbox has small chance. Maybe they'll go the DW 6 route and put it on all systems?
I've imported video games twice, and regret one of them. The second one wasn't so bad, but then again, I paid considerably little. The other one, though... yeah, that was just stupid on my part.

Stupid DW6.

Should have just gotten the artbook off Ebay.

IF this was coming out for the Wii, at least I'd have my own little act of revenge, but I don't think it is. So, no money from me. I'd rather take my chance waiting for SW4.
Yea, it seems to risky. Its bad enough games are expensive(which is why I buy about 5-6 games a year) but when you have to pay even more??
Bs. To be honest I don't pay for stuff online period. Hopefully the wait for SW 4 won't be long though!
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Im Expecting something entirely new in this game..And I hope the game will really be on PS3
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It WILL be on PS3. Just not outside of Japan.
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This looks like a lack-luster topic. What's happened?
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This looks like a lack-luster topic. What's happened?
Almost no-one looks at this topic because it ain't coming overseas. That makes a lot of people sad, and they don't care about the game if they can't play it (unless they import, but at least for me, it's not a option).
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I love SW games and I don't want to do same as I do with BASARA games (Play in Japanese)... I can't promise anything, I'll just try to convince them! FREE MASONRY-RELATED POWERS ACTIVATED XD
Free-masonry powers? :blink: :confused:
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