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| [08-24-2012] Hyakku-mon nin no Sengoku Musou; Prepare for the unleash of new characters in future games Samurai Warriors Games! | |
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| Deleted User | Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:08 am Post #226 |
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Well, if Neko Gozen is part of the "Musou Generals", I think there are chances for her being added to SW4 then... I'd much prefer Date Megohime, but if Neko Gozen is added, it is not necessary to have Date Megohime too, since she would probably have a similar role to Neko Gozen, and having 2 female characters in the Date clan? No, thank you. ![]() ~ Still, their logic is sometimes bizarre. --- I really like the design of Kosokabe Chikayasu, but I've never heard of this character before that. Is it someone important in the Chōsokabe clan? Because if so, I will not be against his eventual addition, especially since this would give an ally to Chōsokabe Motochika. |
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| Xalfrea | Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:35 am Post #227 |
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So some of these characters are actually playable in this game now and not just UNPC's? Interesting... Chikayasu sounds like he can be a good add. Poor Motochika gets little to relationships in the games, or at least with actual members of his clan. Asahina Yasutomo...he first serves the Imagawa, then the Takeda. This could lead to something. Poor Fuuma, once again Mototada is nowhere in sight. Interesting how the seemingly obvious figures to fully characterize are nowhere in sight. |
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| WarHawk | Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:36 am Post #228 |
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Most of them are not important at all, like motochika`s brother, imagawa dude, sansuboro, mori and mouri and few more guys... hey Koei what that **** with you? give some more reasonable characters like Otani and Ii (which are in the most requested characters list) Otani have connection to Ishida, Ii to Tokugawa, so what`s a problem then? I don`t understand the logic and everytime I see these new npc`s I feel pain in the head. I CAN`T UNDERSTAND> Fantaji - you`re right about Gozen as well. Can someone answer on my question, please? What operational system smartphone should have for this game? only android? or symbiont is also count in? Edited by WarHawk, Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:38 am.
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| Komatsu | Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:05 pm Post #229 |
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I would love to see Koei's SW interpretation of Otani Yoshitsugu (since I love their Saihai no Yukue version of him). And frankly, if they're adding this many characters to SW (even in a mobile game) they really should add him too. Some of the character choices are weird, yeah. No Otani, no Ii Naomasa, and instead of Mego you have Neko instead. They don't even have a unique character design for Hideyori either, yet they have his mother and his wife (and his father, of course). I hope they continue to add new characters, because there's so much more they could do... |
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| SRS | Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:28 pm Post #230 |
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WarHawk, you need to settle down and not take character additions for a spinoff social game so seriously. Asahina's been in SW since SW1XL as a semi-UNPC by the way. You only meet him in Yoshimoto's Musou mode. All of these characters have close relations with existing characters, which makes them quite important in their own way. Sure, Otani and Ii are great, but right now they would simply be Sakon #2 and Tadakatsu #2 for the roles they can fill. As for some info on Chikayasu's role: http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Kosokabe_Chikayasu Asahina Yasutomo was the premier general of the Imagawa next to Ieyasu. He was incredibly loyal, and pretty much held the clan together for Ujizane after Yoshimoto died. The end of the Imagawa culminated in Yasutomo holding off Ieyasu's siege at Kakegawa Castle for 5 months before brokering a surrender, allowing himself and Ujizane safe passage to Hojo territory. He then dropped off records, but theorized to have went on to either serve the Hojo, Takeda, or under Sakai Tadatsugu, depending on who you ask. Edited by SRS, Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:34 pm.
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| WarHawk | Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:35 pm Post #231 |
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@SRS Hm... but what about characters like Ashikaga`s and Yamanaka Yukimori (Mouri Motonari?), with what characters they`re related? Ii Naomasa - 2nd Tadakatsu? Highly doubted, he could be very unique. Like someone without control button... About Otani... with Sakon he could be... like Hattori. Serve Ishida as a bodyguard. Edited by WarHawk, Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:38 pm.
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| Komatsu | Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:36 pm Post #232 |
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Motochika needs more connections in the games. Though thinking about it - now that Motonari has his son who died before him, I wonder if they'll add Nobuchika for Motochika. They did add his brother, so I don't know if they would now. But it could be an interesting way to flesh him out a little, especially if his future stories leave Mitsuhide behind and go back to something like his SW2XL story (especially since there's a cutscene with Nobuchika dying and everything). You might be right about Ii and Otani, SRS. While I think with Otani it would be a different kind of friendship than Sakon and Mitsunari e, he dies at Sekigahara. Unless they change Sakon to center more around his relationship with Shingen. @Warhawk, the thing with Sakon and Mitsunari that I think a lot of people ignore is that while they both respect and like each other, Sakon teasing of him come across as though he views him like a child. I think it was in SW:C (?) where Mitsunari himself said he didn't appreciate some of the things Sakon does. Sakon's his strategist, but while he does a lot of things in the name of "loosening Mitsunari up", they're also kind of crappy things to do to a friend. So I think adding Otani could add someone who's more... I don't know how to phrase it. Gentle? Respectful overall? Someone who's not going to annoy him for the lulz? Also (I'm sorry I keep editing this comment) we don't necessarily need characters who are related to existing characters. New characters who can give new viewpoints and stories to follow (such as Asahina, who could show the Imagawa after Yoshimoto's death, since they are neeever mentioned again in the games after Okehazama) wouldn't be too bad, would it? I mean, SW3 gave us Motonari and Ujiyasu, after all. Edited by Komatsu, Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:41 pm.
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| SRS | Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:49 pm Post #233 |
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Ashikaga Yoshiteru was close with Uesugi Kenshin: Kenshin's loyalty to the Shogunate was largely from when he traveled to Kyoto and met Yoshiteru in person, and they became friends. Plus he's the Shogun. Small extra bit about Neko in the game: she serves Masamune as his kagemusha, hence why she's dressed so similarly and is also eyepatched. |
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| WarHawk | Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:53 pm Post #234 |
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Have not find Asahina`s wiki page. Ok then. More clans, more stories... unless Koei want add someone really ridiculous. There are many characters who will appear with weapons from DW series. That`s not bad... paint brush for Nobuyuki, flute for Kojuro - well I actually like these choices.About whole Otani`s story... I know this is over too much. Just my little dream, but I wish that if he were added, Kunoich would have some sort of connection with him. Guess which one... (Akihime)Ii have a great potential. There are some difficulties with generals like Torii. Hattori stole some light... his overloyalty reminds me historical Mototada. Sakakibara, Sakai, Honda Masanobu and others have something to suggest, but it`s not as much Ii could. @SRS Thanks for info. I`ve read it on the last weekend, but already forgot about his friendship with Motonari and Kenshin. Anyway I`d love seeing him playable with this look. A Real Man. That`s it. Edited by WarHawk, Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:57 pm.
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| Komatsu | Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:02 pm Post #235 |
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LMAO. That explains it, yeah. I wonder if she's any good at it...? Somehow that's really cute, I hope she imitates him... :3 Warhawk, not every person in the sengoku era has their own page on Wikipedia (especially the English website). He's on the samurai archives, but it's not anymore than what SRS provided: http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Asahina_Yasutomo I don't know if they would ever add Akihime. The fandom would explode! More than it would explode over Neko Gozen being added. |
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| SRS | Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:03 pm Post #236 |
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In related news, Sakon and Matsunaga. http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=23544664 |
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| Deleted User | Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:08 pm Post #237 |
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I don't think Sanada Akihime is necessary, anyway. I mean, there's already something between Sanada Yukimura and Kunoichi (well, for Kunoichi at least). I agree with Neko Gozen, but I'm getting the idea that there are chances for her being added to SW4. If so, then so be it. I just hope she will not look like of a gender swap of Date Masamune. I would prefer something much more unique. |
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| WarHawk | Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:13 pm Post #238 |
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Matsunaga looks ... even better than I imagine him. Too bad that`s not official art. Anyway not much info about Asahida; seriously I`m not count him as serious potential add. About Aki again... she seems never being added - that`s why I wish following thing - Kunoichi = Akihime. |
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| SRS | Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:20 pm Post #239 |
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You're not going to find real info on a lot of guys unless you hunt through Japanese sources. There's so much info not translated it's kinda stupid. Like you'd never know any details about Sakon's service with the Tsutsui and his rivalry with Matsunaga looking at his wiki or samurai-archives page. In fact, the wikipedia page for him is full of BS right now. |
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| WarHawk | Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:33 pm Post #240 |
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I seek pages on japanese too, but as soon as I don`t understand this language (not completely, but still...) I translate it on russian, but it`s not offering much... Agree, a lot of info japanese only. I remember time when there was not any info about Muneshige on english at all... and he was added, his wiki page appeared during three-four days after that. Shima Sakon was a guy whose accomplishments was not great at all, so... it`s nothing surprising that there is not much written about him even in japanese sources. (serve Tsutsui, blah-blah, then learn strategies from Takeda, blah-blah, was man of Ishida )
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| Xalfrea | Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:51 pm Post #241 |
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So Neko is sorta Masamune's own Kunoichi? If Neko and Kojuro are ever possible adds it would be great. Masamune would have enough people to become is own force, with Magoichi as a possible add-on. Maybe we could finally see some Date battles. |
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| WarHawk | Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:52 pm Post #242 |
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Koei could also add his uncle Mogami Yoshiaki as his closest allie... why not?
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| Xalfrea | Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:08 pm Post #243 |
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Counting the number of characters we have now I'm slightly overwhelmed. 27 characters. It's enough to be a cast for a musou game all on its own. |
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| Komatsu | Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:44 pm Post #244 |
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Also Akihime added could potentially take away from Yukimura's status as a slightly socially awkward but totally awesome warrior. I think it's in one of the DLC battles for SW:C where he says that he has nooo experience in love, and even though Kunoichi has a thing for him, he is completely oblivious to it. It should really stay that way. Mogami Yoshiaki could be an add as well, but he's not really one of Masamune's favourite people, so I don't think he'd really be affiliated with the Date clan... Neko and Kojurou though would be amazing, and yes with Magoichi as well that's enough people for them to be a force, easily. Empires already gave the Date clan a story, after all (and Kojurou is in it as an NPC), so I hope they'd give him another one if the opportunity came. |
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| Astus | Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:44 pm Post #245 |
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Haha, it's more than the playable characters in SW1. I don't mind if we see a large number of them appearing as UNPCs and the like but I do subscribe to the idea of quality above quantity. It is why I hold SW1 in such high esteem. Everyone was unique and everyone had their own niche. I like the idea of Neko. I think it'd be adorable for Masamune to have someone like that to interact with haha. |
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| Komatsu | Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:48 pm Post #246 |
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That's admittedly what I'm worried about as well. ![]() Having 30~ish characters with new stories or new places in a story would probably make the quality of them go down. On the other hand, if some of them are UNPCs that only have a unique appearance to go along with their place in the story, I would be okay with that! It would only add to the game if that were the game (using Ogo as an example. she's really young looking in the Hyakku-mon art, so have her appear with Oichi and Nagamasa, but since her daughter Senhime is also in the game, she might not show up later). Now that I know what her "role" is, I kind of love her a little. She seems like she'd be really fun, and Masamune does need someone like that around. |
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| Eni | Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:59 pm Post #247 |
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Oh god a high quality Nobuyuki picture! ![]() Im hoping he gets added in SW4 alongisde Kagekatsu and the Deer Samurai. A Nobutada is fine too. |
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| Xalfrea | Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:29 pm Post #248 |
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Now we just need to wonder who the old guy next to Ginchibiyo is. Can't be Dosetsu because he's one of the first to be revealed for this game. |
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| Komatsu | Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:36 pm Post #249 |
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Oh you're right, he was. That's a good question, then. I assumed it was Dosetsu, I forgot he'd already been introduced. |
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| Astus | Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:50 pm Post #250 |
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Could he be another Shimazu? |
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More clans, more stories... unless Koei want add someone really ridiculous. There are many characters who will appear with weapons from DW series. That`s not bad... paint brush for Nobuyuki, flute for Kojuro - well I actually like these choices.
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Agree, a lot of info japanese only. I remember time when there was not any info about Muneshige on english at all... and he was added, his wiki page appeared during three-four days after that.
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