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[08-24-2012] Hyakku-mon nin no Sengoku Musou; Prepare for the unleash of new characters in future games Samurai Warriors Games!
Topic Started: Fri Sep 9, 2011 12:53 pm (155,783 Views)
Ono Mitsuki
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It is me or Kagekatsu looks a bit like Kanetsugu? Maybe... >.> (I know it's impossible, but it's funny.)

Why you guys argue about Kitsuno being put into the cast and are happy with Cha Cha? Aren't they the same thing? (concubines).

I don't remmeber where I read it but I remmeber something about Cha Cha and Hideyoshi's vassals, how was their relationship? (with all vassals I mean).
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:11 am
Why you guys argue about Kitsuno being put into the cast and are happy with Cha Cha? Aren't they the same thing? (concubines).
Chacha was Hideyori's mother. She wasn't just any concubine.
Edited by Amakusa, Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:44 am.
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So, Ankokuji and Hosokawa huh? Both looks great!!! Less and less left characters that I want to see in SW series... ^_^ Ii Naomasa, Niwa Nagahide, Otani Yoshitsugu, Sakakibara Yasumasa, Honganji Kennyo, Konishi and Ukita (but both not necessary) and ofcourse Otomo Sorin... Ryuzoji`s clan is optional and his vassal Nabeshima Naoshige is optional as well. I`m not sure about Amago Haruhisa and Miyoshi Nagayoshi... (they both died pretty much early as Saito Dosan, Yamamoto Kansuke and Usami with Kakizaki). From girls in my wishlist are only Eishoin and Matsu, plus I`m interested in Akai Teruko. I`ve heard something about Akai clan, have not see her name in their retainers, but curious to know who is she (details) and what`s her role in the game.
Thanks Komatsu!
The weirdest character is Komono Masutoki... :confused:
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The first two pics say, respectively, that the officer is related to Magoichi and Gracia. The second guy is obviously Tadaoki by the Gracia clue, his colors and yandere appearance(he's got Rena's billhook!)

The first guy has to be either Honganji Kennyo or Shimozuma Rairen, both excellent choices for a Honganji representative. He doesn't have Mori colors, and the note would've certainly said he was related to Motonari instead of Magoichi if it was Ekei.

Rairen was the lead priest in charge of the defense of Ishiyama-Honganji during Nobunaga's decade-long siege. He was Magoichi's partner in leading the defense, and the two's teamwork contributed greatly to the stronghold holding out against Nobunaga. He ultimately helped tender Honganji Kennyo's surrender to Nobunaga, and continued on as one of the head priests.

We've barely seen him in SW yet outside of a couple stages since SW has so far barely touched on the whole Honganji affair(even in SW1 outside of Ise-Nagashima.)
Edited by SRS, Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:01 am.
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Hosokawa Tadaoki? Another good choice. But the butcher knife...makes me think the guy might be a bit psycho. Let's not forget that really painful slap he gave to Gracia in 3XL/Z.

As for the other unknown guy, if its a Honganji rep that would be nice. Rairen Shimozuma for some reason I always remember encountering in stages like Kizugawa. Maybe because of his name.
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:59 am
Hosokawa Tadaoki? Another good choice. But the butcher knife...makes me think the guy might be a bit psycho. Let's not forget that really painful slap he gave to Gracia in 3XL/Z.

As for the other unknown guy, if its a Honganji rep that would be nice. Rairen Shimozuma for some reason I always remember encountering in stages like Kizugawa. Maybe because of his name.
Playing Gracia's story in SW3Z paints Tadaoki as a full-on yandere, so the "I love you to DEATH" look is perfect for him. He was like that historically too(see: the little occurrence where he killed a man just for talking to Gracia.)
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I`d prefer rather Honganji than Shimazuma. Though, Rairen is decent choice for unique character. A little bit dissapointed that it is not Ankokuji. Well... interesting portrayal of Tadaoki. It`s definately unique character. I guess this psycho could be one of my new SW favorites.
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:03 am
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:59 am
Hosokawa Tadaoki? Another good choice. But the butcher knife...makes me think the guy might be a bit psycho. Let's not forget that really painful slap he gave to Gracia in 3XL/Z.
Playing Gracia's story in SW3Z paints Tadaoki as a full-on yandere, so the "I love you to DEATH" look is perfect for him. He was like that historically too(see: the little occurrence where he killed a man just for talking to Gracia.)
His character counterpart in Shogun, Buntaro, was a nutcase too, but I kind of assumed that he was like that to play up the fact that Mariko (Gracia's counterpart) was married to a difficult person. But, at least, they didn't make Buntaro an idiot; he knew Blackthorne (counterpart to William Adams) was looking at his wife.
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:29 am
I`d prefer rather Honganji than Shimazuma. Though, Rairen is decent choice for unique character. A little bit dissapointed that it is not Ankokuji. Well... interesting portrayal of Tadaoki. It`s definately unique character. I guess this psycho could be one of my new SW favorites.
Well, I prefer him to be Shimozuma Rairen rather than Honganji Kennyo. I mean, Kennyo already has a design in the SW series. He just needs a new costume for SW4.
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Akai Teruko is grandpa of Kai, wtf??? Hell, this sounds ridicolous, but it what I could find in some sources. She was on the battlefield in her 70th... :wacko:
@ MatheusOda. First thing - I don`t like his old design, second - I don`t want Shimazuma Rairen`s addition. That`s how it is. ;)
Edited by WarHawk, Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:20 pm.
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:18 pm
Akai Teruko is grandpa of Kai, wtf??? Hell, this sounds ridicolous, but it what I could find in some sources. She was on the battlefield in her 70th... :wacko:
@ MatheusOda. First thing - I don`t like his old design, second - I don`t want Shimazuma Rairen`s addition. That`s how it is. ;)
His addition would mean the instant return of Kennyo, and someone for Magoichi to interact. He seems a interesting character and has a good potential!

BTW who's that Masutoki is and who he serves?
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:01 pm
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:18 pm
Akai Teruko is grandpa of Kai, wtf??? Hell, this sounds ridicolous, but it what I could find in some sources. She was on the battlefield in her 70th... :wacko:
@ MatheusOda. First thing - I don`t like his old design, second - I don`t want Shimazuma Rairen`s addition. That`s how it is. ;)
His addition would mean the instant return of Kennyo, and someone for Magoichi to interact. He seems a interesting character and has a good potential!

BTW who's that Masutoki is and who he serves?
He served Tachibana`s clan and held Jojima Castle. Imho he`s too minor character in his era for being unique.
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Well, he's unique on the mobile game. I guess Otomo Sorin will be included soon, considering the number of retainers he has now.

EDIT: Small update with O-Go and Ohatsu on the 1st post.
Edited by Masato, Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:43 pm.
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:43 am
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:11 am
Why you guys argue about Kitsuno being put into the cast and are happy with Cha Cha? Aren't they the same thing? (concubines).
Chacha was Hideyori's mother. She wasn't just any concubine.
And Kitsuno was Nobutada's mother, so she wasn't just any concubine too.
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Chacha is also related to Oichi and Nagamasa and if shown as a child, could add more depth to their stories (or a young adult at Shizugatake for Oichi). She's already been shown in Chronicles. And as the mother of Hideyori, she stayed with him throughout Sekigahara and Osaka Castle where she died with him. Kitsuno really doesn't do anything except have Nobutada and three of Nobunaga's other kids, because she dies after the fourth one. And Nobutada himself dies at Honnoji with his father.
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Fu ZhiMei
Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:24 pm
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:43 am
Fu ZhiMei
Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:11 am
Why you guys argue about Kitsuno being put into the cast and are happy with Cha Cha? Aren't they the same thing? (concubines).
Chacha was Hideyori's mother. She wasn't just any concubine.
And Kitsuno was Nobutada's mother, so she wasn't just any concubine too.
There is one difference: Hideyoshi looks like he can cheat Nene, and actually he did, as we can see in the Empires. Nobunaga won't cheat No. I know it's historical game, but if Koei are going to follow the history, then Mitsuhide should be turned in the fat baldy, isn't it? (Though seeing reaction on it would be priceless)
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:33 pm
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:24 pm
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:43 am
Fu ZhiMei
Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:11 am
Why you guys argue about Kitsuno being put into the cast and are happy with Cha Cha? Aren't they the same thing? (concubines).
Chacha was Hideyori's mother. She wasn't just any concubine.
And Kitsuno was Nobutada's mother, so she wasn't just any concubine too.
There is one difference: Hideyoshi looks like he can cheat Nene, and actually he did, as we can see in the Empires. Nobunaga won't cheat No. I know it's historical game, but if Koei are going to follow the history, then Mitsuhide should be turned in the fat baldy, isn't it? (Though seeing reaction on it would be priceless)
Well, to be honest that's kind of a bad excuse. They already have historical elements in the game, adding one more like Nobunaga having a concubine is not going to break the game. You have to realise that having a concubine isn't cheating. Nene's hyper possessive, but she was never able to have Hideyoshi's children. Nou was the same way (supposedly). Introducing conbucines for the sake of these warlords having kids is... fine, in my opinion, especially if those kids actually play a role later on. Concubines were actually the norm back then. For instance, Kanetsugu is noted for being a rare case in which he didn't take any concubines, but stayed monogamous with his wife.

I just don't think Kitsuno has as much relevance as Chacha. If Nou weren't already there, maybe she'd be a good addition to fight at his side. But Nou is there. Not to mention that Chacha and Hideyori live on past both Hideyoshi and Nene. Kitsuno died before Nobunaga, and Nobutada died at Honnoji with Nouhime and Nobunaga.
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Is this a hack and slash game?
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No, it's a mobile phone game. It's kind of like a strategy game? I don't know, since it's Japan only, I haven't had a chance to play it.
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a lot of characters. *CoughSorinCoughCough*
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Completely forgot that Kojiro served Hosokawa Tadaoki. That make sense, why they both looks like... sociopaths. Moreover if Tadaoki would be added in SW4 then Kojiro should return. He`d get something more than just killing people and haunting Musashi - his own lord.
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Well, with that Tadaoki, I just can not imagine by what part did Mitsuhide thought by marrying Gracia on him. I believe there was something like this:
Gracia: Em.. father are you sure? This guy looks strange, look at his eyes!
Mitsuhide: Nonsense, he is a nice young man. It seems that he likes cooking.
Gracia: :facepalm:
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:48 pm
Well, with that Tadaoki, I just can not imagine by what part did Mitsuhide thought by marrying Gracia on him. I believe there was something like this:
Gracia: Em.. father are you sure? This guy looks strange, look at his eyes!
Mitsuhide: Nonsense, he is a nice young man. It seems that he likes cooking.
Gracia: :facepalm:
:lol: Yeap, Mitsuhide knows better :whistle:
This young butcher has much potential. He could have strong mental connection with Kojiro and he was Tokugawa`s loyal friend. Strong choice for new addition. Not just this mobile... I mean SW4. I hope Koei understand it.
Poor Gracia :unsure: that would be funny though :shifty:
Edited by WarHawk, Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:04 pm.
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:43 pm
I just don't think Kitsuno has as much relevance as Chacha. If Nou weren't already there, maybe she'd be a good addition to fight at his side. But Nou is there. Not to mention that Chacha and Hideyori live on past both Hideyoshi and Nene. Kitsuno died before Nobunaga, and Nobutada died at Honnoji with Nouhime and Nobunaga.
I know that Kitsuno isn't so relevant as Cha Cha, I personally like Cha Cha more. The thing is, I don't like how people are treating the poor woman :( , it's, IMO, unfair, they have the exact same role in history so why treat them different? This is so childish.
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:38 pm
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:43 pm
I just don't think Kitsuno has as much relevance as Chacha. If Nou weren't already there, maybe she'd be a good addition to fight at his side. But Nou is there. Not to mention that Chacha and Hideyori live on past both Hideyoshi and Nene. Kitsuno died before Nobunaga, and Nobutada died at Honnoji with Nouhime and Nobunaga.
I know that Kitsuno isn't so relevant as Cha Cha, I personally like Cha Cha more. The thing is, I don't like how people are treating the poor woman :( , it's, IMO, unfair, they have the exact same role in history so why treat them different? This is so childish.
As for me they both should not be in the game :whistle: how much concuibines do we have in SW series on this moment? seems that no one, but due to 100mon-nin we got unique Neko and Yodo. I check other mobile game, one with cats and there are plenty of female characters. Koei have a big choice indeed, and still some of their additions, khm are really weird. Senhime is obvious example. -_-
That`s weirdo as well, but Yoshihiro looks like grandpa for me; any thoughts?! Seing small girl around him would be funny. (similar to Itsuki from Basara) :hehe: Pardon me I just don`t value much Toyohisa.
Edited by WarHawk, Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:04 pm.
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