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[08-24-2012] Hyakku-mon nin no Sengoku Musou; Prepare for the unleash of new characters in future games Samurai Warriors Games!
Topic Started: Fri Sep 9, 2011 12:53 pm (155,758 Views)
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Yes, that's what I thought too. There was nothing about them, so I said to myself they were perhaps only generic characters, as this female character who had black hair with a purple ribbon (I think) around her head. Anyway, if they are indeed generic characters, this would explain why they are not present. Although I think this has not been confirmed, so we can't really know for the moment. :/
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AntonKutovoi
Wed May 9, 2012 12:52 pm
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Wed May 9, 2012 12:51 pm
Strange that Komono Masutoki and Akai Teruko are not included with the other characters. It appears that these 2 characters have been completely forgotten, since we never got a better picture of them.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing who will be Toshiie's unique general. I really hope that it will be Matsu and not someone completely random. Fingers crossed for that to happen~ Oh, and I'm also interested to see who will be Hanzō's unique general.
It seems too me that they are generics.
They actually were 2nd generals of Kahime and Tachibana Ginchiyo respectively. :hmmm:
Saito Toshiharu is also generic one.
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I would just like to point out that Yukinaga's design has a troll face! XD
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What a big letdown?! Hattori`s unique general is Momochi Sandyu (Momochi Tanba). :crazy:
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Hmm, can't find anything on him, but I'm guessing he's another ninja?
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Thu May 10, 2012 1:48 pm
Hmm, can't find anything on him, but I'm guessing he's another ninja?
Yes, exactly;

Tamba Momochi (百地丹波) - an Iga ninja who was also known as Sandyu Momoji. He secretly joined forces with Magoichi to end Nobunaga and targeted his son, Nobukatsu.
His plot was betrayed by one of his own men and, in 1581, he resisted the conqueror in
his homeland. He presumably died during battle. Folktales also state that he was one
of Goemon's cousins.


Well, I'm really not excited about him. :/ I am now waiting to see his design, though.
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SO any screenshots on him?
And, when will toshiie maeda playable, so we can see his unique general
*cough*Matsu*cough*
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Just another Iga ninja, nothing more, no matter how powerful master he was it`s disappointing add. To be honest I expected to see Yagyu Muneyori or Munetoshi or Hidetada or even Sakakibara/Sakai, but not him. :/
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Wait, Hanzo's add is Momochi Sandayu... as in that old ninja who was portrayed in Kessen III as the leader of the Iga ninjas... was that even true...

I don't know whether I should be pleased or ambivalent, I honestly know practically nothing about this guy...
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Doesn't help that nothing much can be found at him. To give credit to almost all the adds at this point, they at least have some interesting history surrounding them that can get out brains thinking to how they can work in future games and what they can possibly do in a main SW.

This guy...has nothing. Maybe our resident SRS can provide more info.
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Thu May 10, 2012 2:00 pm
Wait, Hanzo's add is Momochi Sandayu... as in that old ninja who was portrayed in Kessen III as the leader of the Iga ninjas... was that even true...

I don't know whether I should be pleased or ambivalent, I honestly know practically nothing about this guy...
Some sources has info that he was creator of ninjitsu branch. He was also ruler of Iga for some time. To be honest all I saw is in japanese, difficult to translate it correctly. And yeah he`s old geek in Kessen. He was also in SW2 as ninja bodyguard, but it`s really minor appearance. Better than nothing anyway.
@ZeeZeeGo. Do you wanna a pic? He was only added one hour ago! It demands some time to get picture, maybe several hours, maybe several days, maybe even weeks (remember Todo :kurokan: )
@Xalfrea. Yeah waiting for SRS, he should tell more about this guy. I only suppose...
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So.. Sandayu is next? I thought that he will be added. Not for Hanzo, though. True, he was in KIII. He also Iga leader in NA Online (Same looks as Kessen III). Actually I have nothing against him. Also consider Iga invasion as a stage for Kazumasu - he was beaten there, along with Oda Nobukatsu - Nobunaga's second son.
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Momochi Sandayu was to Hanzo as Kamiizumi Nobutsuna was to Musashi/Jubei, or *insert old master who created the original teachings" to *insert younger cool guy known better in pop culture.*

Unlike Hanzo, Momochi was one of the full-fledged Iga ninja and their de facto leader during their war with Nobunaga(and subsequent near-extermination by him,) which is probably why so little documentation on him and other Iga ninja exist.
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So it seems like we're gonna get Momochi next, that's not bad at all, I've been wanting him to appear in an SW game for ages now, plus he could troll Nobunaga's son that invaded Iga and failed xD.

We finally got clearer Masanobu pic and I have to say, he looks A-MAZ-ING, So does Takatora, Yukinaga's got the best troll face ever...xD, Mori Tahei looks pretty sweet, I wonder if he's gonna have the Xiahou Dun-Cao Cao relationship with Kanbei and Nagamasa Kuroda, well except for the cousin part. at any rate I think Mori Tahei will have a lot of interactions, including with both the Kurodas, Masanori and other generals Eastern Army. =)
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Have all unique characters in good quality (with frame) except Yoshitaka (don`t need him) and Shimazuma... maybe somebody has him in good quality in 180x180 with standard blue theme, will be grateful.
So it seems only Sakon left to appear in the game; Toshiie, Nobunaga and Hideyoshi are in the game for a long time but not unlockable and have not unique generals as well.
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Fri May 11, 2012 9:21 am
Toshiie, Nobunaga and Hideyoshi are in the game for a long time but not unlockable and have not unique generals as well.
A shame for Toshiie's possible unique general. This means that Matsu will not be there.
I had the bad feeling that she would not be added, anyway. Well, I'll have to wait SW4 to
see her, since I am sure she will be added in this game. Though, I don't see why they are the only characters to not unlock a unique general. :kurokan:
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Fri May 11, 2012 9:42 am
A shame for Toshiie's possible unique general. This means that Matsu will not be there.
By general I mean character. Even Oeyo is general caz she`s unit on the battlefield and this is a strategy game. I`m pretty sure his "general" is Matsu. Who else? Gamo "Leo" Ujisato goes to Shima or Oda if he`s in, Ikeda Terumasa and Oda Nobukatsu are Oda`s only. I don`t think any of them might appear as Toshiie unique character. Toshinaga is in the game and generic, the same thing with Toshiie`s friend Sassa Narimasa. Matsu, Matsu and Matsu... no other choices. Problem might be that Koei already forgot about girls and last from them was added several months ago (in December).
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Thanks for your explanation, WarHawk. So, it's just that Toshiie (and the others) have not a unique general yet. I hope it will not take too long, I want to see her so badly~ And it's true that even in this game, they talk about Matsu, so she should definitely be added. I was just afraid, I thought he would have no unique character to unlock.
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I really hope it is matsu, i mean look every popular characters that has appears in basara:
- Sasuke
- Matsunaga
- Kojuro
- Ujimasa :meantongue:
- Mogami
- Otomo

has appears in this game, but not yet matsu.....
and hideaki i think he is actually pretty important in sekigahara, hope he will be added in sw4, but since hideaki is generic in this game, the only hope is matsu
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Fri May 11, 2012 12:49 pm
I really hope it is matsu, i mean look every popular characters that has appears in basara:
- Sasuke
- Matsunaga
- Kojuro
- Ujimasa :meantongue:
- Mogami
- Otomo

has appears in this game, but not yet matsu.....
and hideaki i think he is actually pretty important in sekigahara, hope he will be added in sw4, but since hideaki is generic in this game, the only hope is matsu
Yeah true, but hideaki's father is in so maybe he will be replaced by hideaki in SW4.
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Fri May 11, 2012 1:19 pm
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Fri May 11, 2012 12:49 pm
I really hope it is matsu, i mean look every popular characters that has appears in basara:
- Sasuke
- Matsunaga
- Kojuro
- Ujimasa :meantongue:
- Mogami
- Otomo

has appears in this game, but not yet matsu.....
and hideaki i think he is actually pretty important in sekigahara, hope he will be added in sw4, but since hideaki is generic in this game, the only hope is matsu
Yeah true, but hideaki's father is in so maybe he will be replaced by hideaki in SW4.
I find it`s okay to keep generic Hideaki as long as Terumoto and Hiroie will be generic. C`mon Takakage seems to be epic addition, his son (adopted though) has only one shiny (betrayal) moment at Sekigahara. Hide is interesting conflicting personage but I don`t see him as a must add for series.
Matsu is must add for me, because as I already said, she was portraited greatly in Basara and Toshiie in SW is one of the best character in series, but seems to have lack of something, maybe love, maybe something else. He needs new character to interact intimately and she`s the best choice for it. Katsuie is mentor, Toyotomi is good friend, but need someone else... I also want to see more interactions with Keiji. BTW Nene will get friend of mine and Matsu will be only third female add for Oda, which is far away from male Oda`s additions anyway (I hope to see Takigawa in the next game). Third... and I`m not counting Chacha, Oeyo and Ohatsu yet. Sorry, but I don`t see Oichi as mother. But If Koei makes her as a mature woman in SW4, I`m totally okay with it.
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BTW, how was the character design in this game...to me comparing to basara characters:
- Kojuro(Well i really think he needs to wield a gun, but why a flute? ANy historical reading regarding kojuro and a flute?Well actually Both basara and this version looks equal, i hope sw4 keeps this design)
- Sasuke(SO energetic!UNlike the calm basara version this one seems to make many messy situation to sanada, but i like it! Definitel the design i want to see in sw4)
- MOgami (That sneaky face! or The sly basara version honestly both basara and this version amy have almost exact sly personality, although id rather basara, this one seems too generic)
- Ujimasa ( BAsara version pawns this version much more)
- Matsunaga (Honestly both design pretty epic, one with a spider another with gunpowder anothe sly personality,from this design looks i have a feelin their going to have same personality, i prefer the game has a bit different personality)
- Otomo (He looks awesome but the fact he standing atop cannon makes me almost the exact xavi tank from basara version, this is a no no design in weapon category they show, make a different weapon type like another hand cannon maybe? But make it different from guo huai)
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Hm... I think that we forgot about the returning characters in this game. I guess they will also receive someone. So.. any ideas?
My guess: Musashi - Takuan Soho
Kojiro - Don't know. Seigen Toda, maybe? Or Shishido Baiken.
Goemon - Yoshitsugu Miyoshi or Nagayuki Miyoshi, maybe.
Also why some people complains about Sorin's canon? It's the same canon that he bought from portugals and was going to use in Battle at Mimigawa (Kunikujushi or something like that).
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Fri May 11, 2012 5:33 pm
Hm... I think that we forgot about the returning characters in this game. I guess they will also receive someone. So.. any ideas?
My guess: Musashi - Takuan Soho
Kojiro - Don't know. Seigen Toda, maybe? Or Shishido Baiken.
Goemon - Yoshitsugu Miyoshi or Nagayuki Miyoshi, maybe.
Also why some people complains about Sorin's canon? It's the same canon that he bought from portugals and was going to use in Battle at Mimigawa (Kunikujushi or something like that).
You`re wrong, they don`t get anyone and treatment to them like to other unique playable characters (Otani, Takigawa and so on).
Their generals:
Musashi - Itō Ittōsai
Kojiro - Toda Seigen
Goemon - Namazue Mataichiro
and they won`t get them, they are generic generals as additions of new characters. (like Otani Yoshitsugu has Otani Yoshifusa, Yamanaka Yukimori has Yamanaka Mitsuyuki, Takigawa Kazumasu - Takigawa Sukekiyo, Matsunaga Hisahide - Naito Munekatsu, Neko Gozen - Date Hidemune, etc)
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has appears in this game, but not yet matsu.....and hideaki i think he is actually pretty important in sekigahara, hope he will be added in sw4, but since hideaki is generic in this game, the only hope is matsu
Yeah true, but hideaki's father is in so maybe he will be replaced by hideaki in SW4.[/quote]I find it`s okay to keep generic Hideaki as long as Terumoto and Hiroie will be generic. C`mon Takakage seems to be epic addition, his son (adopted though) has only one shiny (betrayal) moment at Sekigahara. Hide is interesting conflicting personage but I don`t see him as a must add for series.[/quote]

I hope all three of Motonari Mori's grandsons (Terumoto, Hiroie, Hideaki) get added to Sw4 because they were each very crucial during Sekigahara and during the end of the Toyotomi days. I see those three having the Mitsunari-Kiyomasa-Masanori relationship. Hiroie changed sides with Hideaki so it makes sense. Koei would do a very good job building all 3 of them, especially if they do clan modes in the next installment, in which case they would fit under the Mori clan.
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