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[08-24-2012] Hyakku-mon nin no Sengoku Musou; Prepare for the unleash of new characters in future games Samurai Warriors Games!
Topic Started: Fri Sep 9, 2011 12:53 pm (155,798 Views)
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It's far too many characters if they are all added to Samurai Warriors 4. If they add 15-20 new characters (which I hope will not be the case), there will probably be 3/4 new female characters. I am for Chacha, Maeda Matsu, Mochizuki Chiyome and Okatsu, but not Ohatsu, please.
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Sun Oct 9, 2011 1:07 pm
I'm not saying he's a bad add, I'm saying he's a bad add as he looks like in the mobile game. I expect him to be a young poet with good fighting skills, like Ding Feng but a pretty boy! XD I'm against pretty boys normally

From all of this adds, we can say for sure that KOEI will be focusing in Nobunaga's rise to power in the next one.

BTW we need more Niwa Nagahide in that soup!
I agree with you completely. Need replace Mori Nagayoshi on Niwa Nagahide... wait :OMG: that`s it! Koei may concentrate on some time periods like in SB series. They may reload series (SW4 - Nobunaga, SW5 - Hideyoshi, SW6 - Tokugawa), I feel cutting, but it may be even a good sign. I guess there should be a few more characters for full picture - Matsunaga Hisahide and Asakura Yoshikage (I`m ok with his absence again)
About social game, is it final roster? We`ve not seen only two characters by so far - Oichi`s second daughter and rebelling monk.
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Sun Oct 9, 2011 1:09 pm
It's far too many characters if they are all added to Samurai Warriors 4. If they add 15-20 new characters (which I hope will not be the case), there will probably be 3/4 new female characters. I am for Chacha, Maeda Matsu, Mochizuki Chiyome and Okatsu, but not Ohatsu, please.
With Okatsu, you mean Eishōin? The Concubine of Tokugawa Ieyasu? Now that's a interesting add! But I only see it happening with the inclusion of Nankobo no Tenkai (Either Akechi Mitsuhide or Akechi Samanosuke Hidemitsu or a New Character as him... It doesn't really matter...)! I can see her having interactions to Hanzo, Ieyasu and Tenkai!
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Sun Oct 9, 2011 1:07 pm
I'm not saying he's a bad add, I'm saying he's a bad add as he looks like in the mobile game. I expect him to be a young poet with good fighting skills, like Ding Feng but a pretty boy! XD I'm against pretty boys normally

From all of this adds, we can say for sure that KOEI will be focusing in Nobunaga's rise to power in the next one.

BTW we need more Niwa Nagahide in that soup!
I agree with you completely. Need replace Mori Nagayoshi on Niwa Nagahide... wait :OMG: that`s it! Koei may concentrate on some time periods like in SB series. They may reload series (SW4 - Nobunaga, SW5 - Hideyoshi, SW6 - Tokugawa), I feel cutting, but it may be even a good sign. I guess there should be a few more characters for full picture - Matsunaga Hisahide and Asakura Yoshikage (I`m ok with his absence again)
About social game, is it final roster? We`ve not seen only two characters by so far - Oichi`s second daughter and rebelling monk.
Or maybe they can focus more in Nobunaga's Period in SW4, then Hideyoshi's in SW4XL and at last Ieyasu's in SW4E! They need to make the expansions a full game to improve even more! They need to add characters and stories modes in every expansion. They already did that in SW3XL and SW3E, they just need to include more content.

Also, Yoshikaga had an AWESOME design in SW2XL, but he was just named Shogun and appeared in Mercenary Mode... That design fits him a lot! And Matsunaga Hisahide needs to be included.

About the roster of the mobile game, KT keeps updating the game with more characters in random periods... It started with the roster of SW3 and then they added more and more characters. Those last 4 were added after TGS2011.
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Sun Oct 9, 2011 8:55 pm
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Sun Oct 9, 2011 1:09 pm
It's far too many characters if they are all added to Samurai Warriors 4. If they add 15-20 new characters (which I hope will not be the case), there will probably be 3/4 new female characters. I am for Chacha, Maeda Matsu, Mochizuki Chiyome and Okatsu, but not Ohatsu, please.
With Okatsu, you mean Eishōin? The Concubine of Tokugawa Ieyasu? Now that's a interesting add!
Eishōin, yes. I would love to see her added in the series, because I really think she is interesting. This would give a new female character to the Togukawa's forces and Tokugawa Ieyasu would also have his "lover" in the game, as Oda Nobunaga and Toyotomi Hideyoshi.
I enjoyed her performances in the Kessen games and Saihai no Yukue.

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wooo ... I didn't notice her existence ... I read about Okatsu, and I found it interesting ...
and I want to say ... would be nice if they added some characters from Saihai no Yukue... I love the design of Yoshitsugu Otani, Hideaki Kobayakawa, Naomasa Ii ... etc xD

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I wouldn't take all of this as confirmation that these characters(still just NPCs in this game) will be in SW4. While it may make the inclusion of say Uesugi Kagekatsu or Sanada Masayuki very probable, one can't say the same for Mori Nagayoshi or Saito Yoshitatsu. Also remember that Hosokawa Tadaoki and Matsunaga Hisahide were ranked very high on that popularity poll from a short while ago, but they didn't get a special portrait.

However, Chacha and Ohatsu are playable characters here, which I think is a bit more telling. I'd expect one of the two to appear in SW4.
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I looked at this a few days ago and noticed Suzuki Sadayű on this list and now i don't... Is he gone or was his name a translation error of Saito Yoshitatsu in the list before it was edited for its change (If i remember that was the picture he was paired with before) :/ ? .. I was actually excited for Shigehide's father to maybe be joining the roster >.<! ..
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Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:08 am
I wouldn't take all of this as confirmation that these characters(still just NPCs in this game) will be in SW4. While it may make the inclusion of say Uesugi Kagekatsu or Sanada Masayuki very probable, one can't say the same for Mori Nagayoshi or Saito Yoshitatsu. Also remember that Hosokawa Tadaoki and Matsunaga Hisahide were ranked very high on that popularity poll from a short while ago, but they didn't get a special portrait.

However, Chacha and Ohatsu are playable characters here, which I think is a bit more telling. I'd expect one of the two to appear in SW4.
We might get them or not... We are speculating and considering. Nothing to make the whole forum shake lol
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wooo ... I didn't notice her existence ... I read about Okatsu, and I found it interesting ...
and I want to say ... would be nice if they added some characters from Saihai no Yukue... I love the design of Yoshitsugu Otani, Hideaki Kobayakawa, Naomasa Ii ... etc xD

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Yeah, those designs are interesting... But I can see many changes in them if they are included in SW4 in the future...

@Tsukiyama: Well, if she's added, then she needs a redesign... I don't wanna see another Ninja-Wife... It's annoying...

@Joetri10: I got it confused with Yoshitatsu... The colors and the rifle are misleading! Yoshitatsu supposedly used a spear to kill Dosan!
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Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:26 pm
Yeah, those designs are interesting... But I can see many changes in them if they are included in SW4 in the future...

@Tsukiyama: Well, if she's added, then she needs a redesign... I don't wanna see another Ninja-Wife... It's annoying...
About SnY. Well If we touch this subject then... I like some conceptions. Otani SnY and Otani nyan cat have something in common... guess what? His SW design may be really cheesy and cool. I`d also prefer Hosokawa Tadaoki and Ukita Hideie with minor changes. Todo Takatora was a good castle engineer, but as daimyo I don`t like his political inconsistency. He was not traitor of course, but chameleon type for sure. Ii was ... typical in this game. Who else? Masanobu? Ikeda? N. Kuroda? Konishi? Miss them for this moment. They all were decent (except maybe Yukinaga), but not that type of characters who would be essential for late Sengoku story.

About Okatsu (or Eishoin). In SnY she was iron maiden, her image kinda remind me one girl from Kyshu, but if remade her again, and make something like japanese Joanne Of Arc. I`d say it would be intriguing course.

About Magoichi`s father. One gunslinger more than enough... moreover if this gunslinger represents three individuals.



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Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:26 pm
Yeah, those designs are interesting... But I can see many changes in them if they are included in SW4 in the future...

@Tsukiyama: Well, if she's added, then she needs a redesign... I don't wanna see another Ninja-Wife... It's annoying...
About SnY. Well If we touch this subject then... I like some conceptions. Otani SnY and Otani nyan cat have something in common... guess what? His SW design may be really cheesy and cool. I`d also prefer Hosokawa Tadaoki and Ukita Hideie with minor changes. Todo Takatora was a good castle engineer, but as daimyo I don`t like his political inconsistency. He was not traitor of course, but chameleon type for sure. Ii was ... typical in this game. Who else? Masanobu? Ikeda? N. Kuroda? Konishi? Miss them for this moment. They all were decent (except maybe Yukinaga), but not that type of characters who would be essential for late Sengoku story.

About Okatsu (or Eishoin). In SnY she was iron maiden, her image kinda remind me one girl from Kyshu, but if remade her again, and make something like japanese Joanne Of Arc. I`d say it would be intriguing course.

About Magoichi`s father. One gunslinger more than enough... moreover if this gunslinger represents three individuals.
I do prefer Magoichi to be separated in Suzuki Shigehide and Suzuki Shigetomo... That way, Nobunaga would have an biased fan pursuer and Kennyo his vassal, while Masamune would get his gunslinger friend without the need to create awkward motives to Magoichi do both of the things...

I really want Masanobu as he looks like in SnY... Shady and Old Shaman XD
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So does anyone have Honganji Kennyo image? Or maybe just saw him? I`m curious how Koei change him after so long absence. Why I have feeling that we`d never seen Ishikawa, Miyamoto, Sasaki. They are all not seems very popular, and if we look on the poll they are not really high. If Koei keeps chosen way (producer said that Pang De was added only from fan`s crying) they are not return in future...
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Those images are really, really hard to find... I still look for Ohatsu everyday! XD

If I had an Android Mobile, I would download the game to take a look by myself at them.
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But I wonder why they added so many people in the game.. Hmmmmm Future announcement for SW4 2011 FTW!!!!!
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I don't think it'll be announced still this year... Well, not until WO3 is released in Japan (or Overseas).

Maybe they want to refresh the series with so many characters, evolving it to a Social Dating Musou Game! XD
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I am surprised that there is still no hint of Naomasa li.
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He might be revealed only via Famitsu Scans when SW4 is announced...

I wonder how KOEI will handle Matsunaga Hisahide...
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SW4 will definately not be released in 2011, maybe not even in 2012. I'd rather hope them to actually put effort to the game and give a fresh start to the series rather than releasing almost the same game again (I'm referring to SW3... <_< ).

And regarding the characters, I hope they will have more of a quality > quantity approach in the next game... :whistle:
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Saito Yoshitatsu reminds me of Anegakoji Yoritsuna from sengoku basara 3 :/

The rest are good 2 me, I hope they will be playable in SW4










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Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:42 pm
SW4 will definately not be released in 2011, maybe not even in 2012. I'd rather hope them to actually put effort to the game and give a fresh start to the series rather than releasing almost the same game again (I'm referring to SW3... <_< ).

And regarding the characters, I hope they will have more of a quality > quantity approach in the next game... :whistle:
If it's not released in 2012, then the only KOEI game that will be released next year will One Piece: Kaizoku Musou and perhaps DW7E...

Also, as said by David Lodge in the book "Art of Fiction", "Quantity, by hook or by crook, eventually becomes quality"

I'm sure that we are going to get the Japanese Announcement of Samurai Warriors 4 by April or May 2012... Whether we like it or not. Let's just hope that they revamp the whole series with more gameplay components and stories.

@Musou Gamer: Well, it kinda resembles him lol I think many of those will be UNPC in SW4
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I really do think that we should have Shigezane over Katakura. Masamune needs some direct family members.
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I really do think that we should have Shigezane over Katakura. Masamune needs some direct family members.
Shigezane Date wasn't directly related to Masamune; they were cousins. While he was known as one of Date's greatest generals there's not much information available about him as there is for Kojuro, who is known to be extremely loyal to the Date clan (both times he was given land by the government he handed it over to Masamune; the second time the Tokugawa government allowed him to keep his castle).
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Shigezane would be a good add to the roster too! I feel that if he's added, his weapon will be a Wide Saber!

BTW, did anyone brought that Sengoku Musou Postcard Calendar 2012? Or at least have some scans of it?
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Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:16 pm
Shigezane would be a good add to the roster too! I feel that if he's added, his weapon will be a Wide Saber!

BTW, did anyone brought that Sengoku Musou Postcard Calendar 2012? Or at least have some scans of it?
I know several people who bought it, and at least one who I will make scan will scan it once she receives it. I just don't think it's out yet.

Yeah, according to at least one website, it's not out until mid-November!
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I just checked the page, and I saw it that it's out in October 19, 2 days ago!

I feel there's someone on the other months!

You are a lifesaver, Komatsu! I LOVE YOU, YOU MAD INFO SOURCE! XD
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Are you thinking maybe of the 2011 one? The 2012 one is apparently being released on the 25 of November according to CDJapan: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=2012CL-2018
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