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[08-24-2012] Hyakku-mon nin no Sengoku Musou; Prepare for the unleash of new characters in future games Samurai Warriors Games!
Topic Started: Fri Sep 9, 2011 12:53 pm (155,753 Views)
Wynter
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What the f~ck happened to Hidetada? are they trying to portray him as the "Liu Shan" of the Tokugawas?

That design is hideous, hopefully he wouldnt look like that in SW4 because if he does, I refuse to play as him. KOEI could of made him look like Yukimura or Kiyomasa.

Disappointed.
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SRS
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Why the heck would they make Hidetada look cool? He was never cool.

He's pretty much ALWAYS been portrayed as a bumbler like this.

Can't believe you guys would just want another mass-produced prettyboy instead of something different that's more fitting to the person.
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I never expected Hidetada to look like a pretty boy. I think this is a fitting portrayal, so shoot me.

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I knew that Hidetada will have such design and I`m not disappointed at all. It fits him perfectly, and I`m serious with it. I like BBC film about Sekigahara, perfect portrayal of both Tokugawa. Who don`t wacht it yet, I advice to do this. It`s only 40 minutes and has strong acting performance as well as precise historical details.
Edited by WarHawk, Fri Jun 8, 2012 5:40 am.
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WynterRayn
Fri Jun 8, 2012 1:33 am
What the f~ck happened to Hidetada? are they trying to portray him as the "Liu Shan" of the Tokugawas?
If you know anything about Hidetada, that description isn't too far off of how he was as a general.
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SRS
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Fri Jun 8, 2012 5:39 am
I knew that Hidetada will have such design and I`m not disappointed at all. It fits him perfectly, and I`m serious with it. I like BBC film about Sekigahara, perfect portrayal of both Tokugawa. Who don`t wacht it yet, I advice to do this. It`s only 40 minutes and has strong acting performance as well as precise historical details.
Oh yeah, that BBC special was cool. The only downside is how small their Sekigahara battlefield is, but it gets the point across. Naomasa and Tadayoshi were righteously badass in that.
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Hidetada looks quite humerous, I like it and i believe it fits him :P

He sort of reminds me of a mix between Liu Shan and Yoshimoto for some reason :rolleyes:

Who is gonna be the next chibi anyways? looking forward to the next design! :dance:
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I can't believe that the Oeyo from this game married him. :hehe: Still, even if this portrayal suits him, I would have preferred something less... just something a little different would have been better, in my opinion. Or maybe he would have been better without that stupid expression on his face, with his cheeks that seem to almost explode. ~ Oh, well, it's just his design in this game anyway.
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SRS, could you tell me moer about tokugawa hidetada??
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Fri Jun 8, 2012 1:52 pm
SRS, could you tell me moer about tokugawa hidetada??
Will try to substitute for SRS here.

He was born in 1579 as the third son to Ieyasu. Originally known as Nagamaru, he was first notably mentioned in 1590 during Hideyoshi's siege of Odawara. The young Nagamaru was taken as a hostage by Hideyoshi (A common practice at the time) as to keep Ieyasu on his side when attacking the Hojo. A few years later the lad came of age and Hideyoshi presided over the ceremony, and gave him the character "Hide" to use in his name. The newly named Hidetada returned to Ieyasu soon after.

When Ieyasu and Mitsunari came to a head at Sekigahara, he tasked Hidetada to lead the bulk of the main force to there from Echigo in a campaign against the Uesugi. Along the way the army ran into Ueda Castle and Sanada Masayuki. Like SRS reiterated, Hidetada royally screwed up so bad for even attempting to attack Ueda in the first place and also getting bogged down in the siege. Ieyasu was extremely pissed off. A few years after, Hidetada became Shogun after Ieyasu retired, though the older Tokugawa continued to make decisions behind the scenes.

In the interim, Hidetada married Ogo and they had future Shogun Iemitsu and SenhimeThe attack on Osaka further strained the relationship between father and son; Ieyasu opted to take a more cautionary approach, while Hidetada wasn't above utilizing their cannons to just wipe it off the face of the earth. Also didn't help that Senhime at the time was married to Toyotomi Hideyori. Long after Ieyasu died, Hidetada continued to enact his father's policies, particular on the anti-Christian sentiment, before he died in 1632.

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They could have made him look like Sima Zhao at least, incompetent and uncaring. Why did they have to make him look stupid and fat? He doesn't even look like a ruler...


Remember what we all said when Zhao was first revealed? We thought he didn't look like a ruler either. And look how he turned out.

Though considering this isn't even a main SW game, I'm pretty sure things will turn out for the best should Hidetada be added. If the BBC Documentary and the Taiga dramas are any indication, there's a lot to work with for Hidetada in an SW game; Ieyasu and Takatora can have stuff with him, for starters.
Edited by Xalfrea, Fri Jun 8, 2012 4:24 pm.
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Hmm....for starters, Iemitsu's mother isnt senhime right?? It's O-go, and to me...he's kind of...strange?? WHy does he leads his army to Ueda castle instead??IF you want hidetada to looks perfect, they should go like, hidetada secretly knows yukimura is a great warrior, if he managed to go to sekigahara, the battle will change tide...and his army will be killed...although the idea about yukimura arrives faster in sekigahara is a bit farfetched...
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Senhime is the daughter of Hidetada and Oeyo. She married later the successor to the Toyotomi clan, Hideyori. She's not the mother of Iemitsu, so neither the wife of Hidetada.
Xalfrea certainly wanted to write Oeyo instead of Senhime. Just a little mistake there. :3
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All I can guess was that Hidetada wanted to prove he could lead, so he took a big gamble and attacked Ueda, even though I assume that Ieyasu considered it more trouble than it was worth, since he himself lost at Ueda decades earlier. From which sources I could find, it wasn't as if Ueda Castle was a blocking point they had to get through to get to Sekigahara, it was just something encountered along the way.

I can imagine that Hidetada making the mistake of attacking a troublesome target AND missing out at the biggest battle at the time royally pissed off Ieyasu. It especially didn't help later when Hidetada wanted to straight out annihilate Osaka Castle during that particular time.

That angle of Yukimura and the Sanada meeting up at Sekigahara, I believe, is pure fiction.

And yeah, wrote the wrong woman in the last post, my bad.
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In my opinion, Hidetada could look stupid, but not ridiculously stupid like Tsukiyama implied. In fact, he seemed rebellious toward his father, so why not make him look completely different from his father?
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Fri Jun 8, 2012 12:14 pm
I can't believe that the Oeyo from this game married him. :hehe: Still, even if this portrayal suits him, I would have preferred something less... just something a little different would have been better, in my opinion. Or maybe he would have been better without that stupid expression on his face, with his cheeks that seem to almost explode. ~ Oh, well, it's just his design in this game anyway.
Love is blind dear :cool:

I also think his cheeks are strange, they could change it, but this appearance suits him.

When Hideyori will come out? :(
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Well I'm back just for ask two things... that are basically the same.

First... any new info?... second, can someone confir about any new addition for the Date?, because searching for pixiv the tag "100万人の戦国無双" I find a picture of this character, who is, what I understand, is Oniniwa Tsunamoto :

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I can't find any info and maybe is just fancharacter, but well :/
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I don't know if it's a desired character by the person who drew this fanart or if Tsunamoto
is really in the game, but you can find some information about him here. And indeed, he actually served the Date clan. (If that's what you meant by "I can't find any information.").

Nevermind, it's not what you meant. Sorry~ :ph43r:
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Tsunamoto Oniwa? Is there going to be Date update or Koei just trolling and giving us Tsunamoto instead of Shigezane? Well, not that I against him. He was one of the "Three Heroes of Date" after all, but still...
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No info about them, I`m pretty sure they both will be added later if this game is not closed yet.
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Well, I just find in the twitter of this artist some pics, and seems like he is an character:
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and well, in this another one that I can't say who is -because i have no idea-:
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Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:38 pm

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and well, in this another one that I can't say who is -because i have no idea-:
Well I think his name is Oniniwa Tsunamoto :/ (the one with glasses)
He have a nice style :3 :heart:
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Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:52 pm
Well I think his name is Oniniwa Tsunamoto :/
Tsunamoto is the one with glasses. It can be Shigezane. He looks like Magoichi, though.
Edited by AntonKutovoi, Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:02 pm.
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Maybe he is Shigezane in that case? Though if it was him, I think he would be next to Masamune as Tsunamoto on the green banner. So he may be just a generic character,
like the female on the picture (which strangely has the same face and hair as Okuni)~
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Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:56 pm
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Well I think his name is Oniniwa Tsunamoto :/
Tsunamoto is the one with glasses. It can be Hidemune. He looks like Magoichi, though.
You mean the one who looks like magoichi is the new character?or the one with glasses?
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The female is Okuni, I read her name in the comment from twitter... maybe the second guy is Magoichi and just because the quality looks like other character :/
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