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[08-24-2012] Hyakku-mon nin no Sengoku Musou; Prepare for the unleash of new characters in future games Samurai Warriors Games!
Topic Started: Fri Sep 9, 2011 12:53 pm (155,740 Views)
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I'm surprised they haven't added Ikeda Tsuneoki or Ikeda Terumasa yet... the former was one of Nobunaga's loyalist officers and his foster brother, and Terumasa was the "Shogun of the West."

Also kinda surprised we haven't gotten Sakuma Nobumori, Murai Sadakatsu or Inaba Ittetsu for the Oda either. Or any of Nobunaga's brothers. Or any of Mitsuhide's retainers like Toshimitsu or Hidemitsu.
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Also kinda surprised we haven't gotten Sakuma Nobumori, Murai Sadakatsu or Inaba Ittetsu for the Oda either. Or any of Nobunaga's brothers. Or any of Mitsuhide's retainers like Toshimitsu or Hidemitsu.
Oh yeah! Sakuma clan, needs some Shibata supporter. Both Murai and Inaba are also kinda prominent. I`m curious whether they will be included or not. Nobumori is secondary general of Shibata in the game, so he`s likely to appear, as far as I remember Tsuneoki was also someone`s secondary... need to check this out.
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Oda officers that left? Ittetsu Inaba, Kazutoyo Yamauchi with his wife, Tsuneoki and Terumasa Ikeda, Nobumori Sakuma and Hidehisa Sengoku are the first I got in my head. I think these ones has the highest chance to be added. And there's also few Akechi vassals that should be added (Tosimitsu and Hidemitsu). Though before that, other clans need to be expanded. Oda already has too much (and that comes from the Oda fan).
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We've plenty of characters to see yet, so it is possible. Though, both Ikeda Terumasa and Tsuneoki are likely to be the ones added next, but it doesn't exclude the other, so no worry. I'm sure there'll be many more Oda's updates, and I'll not be surprised to see also Kitsuno, Tokuhime and/or Fuyuhime. Time will tell.
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The amount of Oda retainers seem to be overwhelming, though if there's more going to be added, I'd also like to see Hosokawa Fujitaka. Still, the other clans need to be prioritized first, since the Oda already have so many

Say, what are the chances of getting the rest of the Sanada Ten Braves added in? While there's not much historic information on any of them (since they're most likely fictional anyway), KOEI did include all of them as bodyguards in SW2, so I'm sure they have slight idea what the rest are like?
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Ah, that reminds me. I'd like to see the Mino Triumvirate too. I guess they could be an interesting add to the Saito and Oda. Plus, they're pretty interesting too.
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Since this is a game that plays a lot on the relationships between the characters, we could see the rest of the Sanada Ten Braves later. It is clear that many of the characters in this game will not be added until a very long time, or not at all, in the main series, thus it is nice to already have a official design for them in this game. Any characters is good to take, as it is interesting to see how they're portrayed.
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Which reminds me... is all of these "additional" characters' designs finalized? Meaning, if they're ever added to the main SW series, would they keep the Hyakku-mon designs, or are there chance that it would be re-vamped?
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Which reminds me... is all of these "additional" characters' designs finalized? Meaning, if they're ever added to the main SW series, would they keep the Hyakku-mon designs, or are there chance that it would be re-vamped?
Unfortunately the chance is close to zero, if you look at the first page, and go to the album, search for todo takatora, he is added in SW2nd chronicles with new design, so chance for this game's design to make into SW4 is zero.
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And it's too bad they aren't even a 1st draft of what Koei would want their characters to look like... It's such a shame to see these designs to go to waste. So we really shouldn't consider adding characters in this mobile game to our wishlists based purely on their design, but how you think koei would actually portray them. I mean, they went from rough castle building Takatora, to pretty boy Jin Kazama look. His design in swc2 was still pretty good though, so I'm not complaining.
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Tue Feb 5, 2013 7:42 am
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Which reminds me... is all of these "additional" characters' designs finalized? Meaning, if they're ever added to the main SW series, would they keep the Hyakku-mon designs, or are there chance that it would be re-vamped?
Unfortunately the chance is close to zero, if you look at the first page, and go to the album, search for todo takatora, he is added in SW2nd chronicles with new design, so chance for this game's design to make into SW4 is zero.
I don't mind that, actually. Since the reason I'm asking in the first place is because I don't like some the Hyakku-mon designs, and was hoping they'd be improved when the characters are shipped in SW4. :whistle:
Well, some of the designs are cool as it is; but hey, nothing is perfect, and there's always room for improvements (though what constitutes as improvement is a subjective matter).
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I think it depends on the design really. Some designs are kinda one-off, out-of-a-hat choices and don't translate particularly well to a Musou game itself, like say Tsutsui Junkei or Niwa Nagahide. Others however, either look designed for a Musou game or are tied some way to it or a character. For example, Uesugi Kagekatsu and his swords, Sassa Narimasa and his kusarigama or Nana and her musical duo set outfit with Motochika.
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Well, maybe the chances are slim, but I'm going to be a bit optimistic and say some are going to be released on their Hyakku-mon outfit. Looking at the SW3 calendars, they're releasing some characters in Hyakku-mon(Nobuyuki and Kagekatsu) so I guess the chances are high for some characters released in their Hyakku-mon outfit.

I hope Yoshihime is going to be released on her Hyakku-mon outfit because she's simply fabulous and perfect in there :kurokan:
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Thu Feb 7, 2013 7:37 am
Well, maybe the chances are slim, but I'm going to be a bit optimistic and say some are going to be released on their Hyakku-mon outfit. Looking at the SW3 calendars, they're releasing some characters in Hyakku-mon(Nobuyuki and Kagekatsu) so I guess the chances are high for some characters released in their Hyakku-mon outfit.

I hope Yoshihime is going to be released on her Hyakku-mon outfit because she's simply fabulous and perfect in there :kurokan:
Koei is good at pleasantly surprising its fans, and at the same time disappointing its fans in other aspects. I bet the designs for some of the characters in this game will be different, but better. Hopefully they take another direction with some of these characters. Frankly, I think they could have done a better job with Nobuyuki. He looks way too generic to be a Sanada.

Only problem is that some of these designs can't get any more perfect (as we thought of Todo Takatora), like Tadaoki, Yoshitsugu, Matsu, etc. Then again, Takatora was pretty great looking, but imo, they gave him more of a personality with the new design they gave him in swc2. Instead of the appearance of a rough tough castle builder, they gave him the "dark hero" personality, in which he serves many many lords with loyalty just hoping to end the war. I suppose we can expect a similar process when they add in new characters.

*New design = New direction with the character.

But man... I really want Yoshitsugu to stay the same... He looks too cool.
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I don't see them remaining the same for SW4, when some of the characters will be added. Though they could have similar/inspired design from this game for when they'll be added in SW4. Or we could have them as alternate costumes/DLC. Anyway, the chances that they've exactly the same design as in this game are very thin, almost non-existent.

Also, Nikaidō Moriyoshi;

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The face is... weird. :mellow:
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Thu Feb 7, 2013 10:21 am
But man... I really want Yoshitsugu to stay the same... He looks too cool.
Well, I wouldn't worry about Yoshitsugu, to be honest. In KOEI games he is ALWAYS almost the same. The only thing I expect to change from his design is his tatoos. Maybe a color scheme will be changed a little.

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I don't see them remaining the same for SW4, when some of the characters will be added. Though they could have similar/inspired design from this game for when they'll be added in SW4. Or we could have them as alternate costumes/DLC. Anyway, the chances that they've exactly the same design as in this game are very thin, almost non-existent.

Also, Nikaidō Moriyoshi;

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The face is... weird. :mellow:


Lol, so they've added him into the game. Don't know the history behind it, but this guy's face is a meme in Japan.
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OMG lol they seriously used the Face meme for Nikaido.

He's like the Pan Feng of Sengoku thanks to his portrait in Taiko Risshiden and Nobunaga's Ambition.

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Just google image search for "二階堂盛義" and enjoy the laughs.
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Thanks, SRS. :lol: His face makes sense then. :sly:

His position from Hyakku-mon is the same as this one;

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Strange face...is there any other character??
But i guess that's it.. cant wait for chiyome..and kyogoku takasugu
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Thu Feb 7, 2013 12:36 pm
is there any other character??
No, Moriyoshi's the only one. Don't worry, when new characters will come, I'll post them here.
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No one have post up this girl yet? Who is she?
I saw fanart of her in pixiv with Magoichi. So, I had to google her up.
Her named is Hotaru.

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Thu Feb 7, 2013 3:08 pm
No one have post up this girl yet? Who is she?
I saw fanart of her in pixiv with Magoichi. So, I had to google her up.
Her named is Hotaru.

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She was already posted here long ago. She's Hotaru, yes. A Saika's character.

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蛍(Hotaru). Part of the Saika's (雑賀) group's firearms unit. (This particular unit, where Hotaru belongs to, is made up of village juveniles). They go against the Oda clan in battles.

^ Well, at least, that's her description in the Sengoku Taisen game.
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Thu Feb 7, 2013 3:12 pm
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Thu Feb 7, 2013 3:08 pm
No one have post up this girl yet? Who is she?
I saw fanart of her in pixiv with Magoichi. So, I had to google her up.
Her named is Hotaru.

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She was already posted here long ago. She's Hotaru, yes. A Saika's character.
Whoa, I have never notice her until now! I might have accidentally skip her.
Hehe, thanks for clearing things up for me Wang Yue! <3
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By the way, can someone post Moriyosh's bio? It's just aside his meme status, I know nothing about his actual deeds.
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Nikaido's face is gotta be the most realistic face I've ever seen on a Hyakku-mon character...and I don't even know it's a meme in Japan! :kurokan:
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