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| Tweet Topic Started: Sat Dec 3, 2011 10:55 am (2,310 Views) | |
| Ixbran | Sat Dec 3, 2011 10:55 am Post #1 |
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hey everyone, while i was watching an anime a thought came to mind, and thought I'd share it. and Yes it dose have something to do with WO3, in particular, its a theory as to why they included the guest characters they did. also, those of you who hope that the guest characters only have minor roles, you may not want to read this; As we all know the WO series is about incorporating Japanese and and Chinese historical figures in a fictional setting with Myth and Legend of their respective countries, ya? One of the things they have yet to incorporate are the Chinese Celestial Constellation Spirits:
I found my self wondering "Why don't they use these things, they would fit in perfectly with the WO theme ...", while watching an anime that focused on these spirits. and while watching i turned to look at the different characters for the new WO game. as while watching this anime on Netflix on my PS3, i was browsing the KOEI Wiki to see if any new information had sprouted up. and while i was doing this i found my self looking at all the guest characters and i thought "What if the guest characters are here to represent the 5 spirits"? so i started listing a few things the characters could possibly have in common with the spirits; if maybe by name, fighting style, designs, personality; anything that could represent some sort of connection with a spirit. Here is what I've come up with;
But yea This is my theory, its quite possible they were brought into the conflict between humans and mystics vs Orochis demons, due to the fact they possibly contain the spirits of the 5 spirits within them. Their strength is possibly needed in order to finally beat Orochi's side for good. and before anyone goes "how can Chinese spirits reside in non Chinese people?", let my say this; Its a video game. This sort of thing has been done plenty of times, applying the gods to non Chinese characters. Maria, from Castlevania series, is capable of calling 4 of the spirits at will to fight for her, and shes of European descent. 4 of the 5 are used as the basis for four different countries who are at war with each other in SE's Final Fantasy Type-0. and they also appear in various animes and often times come to Japanese people to use their powers, despite being Chinese spirits. but yea, that's all i have to say on the matter, now that i got this off my chest feel free to tell me what you think. and if you have anything negative to say, feel free to say it but please do so in a polite manner, and please no swear words. thats all i ask. |
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| Saber | Sat Dec 3, 2011 11:15 am Post #2 |
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Lemme guess, you got the idea from Fushigi Yuugi, right? ![]() I had the same idea in mind, but it seems unlikely anyways. Though it's still a good idea.
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| Ixbran | Sat Dec 3, 2011 11:22 am Post #3 |
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I actually got the thought from watching the anime "Tokyo Majin" but yea, thanks for your input : ) |
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| Noah | Sat Dec 3, 2011 11:26 am Post #4 |
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the guest character are cool but i still think they dont belong in orochi it doesnt make sense to me |
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| Wynter | Sat Dec 3, 2011 11:31 am Post #5 |
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#YAAAS
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^THIS. They arent cool and they have no place in the series. Next time, I hope KOEI cuts them and leave them be in their respected games. Thats what I think Noah ------------------------ And to other members that gets annoyed because of what I posted, Get over it, its what I think, NOT YOU. |
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| Ixbran | Sat Dec 3, 2011 11:46 am Post #6 |
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Well, to each their own i suppose : ) I personally am glad they are in and am very looking forward to playing as them. I know once i get Joan, I'm going to play as her most ^ - ^ though I'm not sure about Ayane, i want to play as her, but maybe in something less revealing. *shrug* |
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| Scarlet Moon | Sat Dec 3, 2011 11:50 am Post #7 |
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I think Edward would fit the "Black Warrior" more Gilles de Rais "The Azure Dragon", and Hector "the White Tiger" |
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| Viajeras | Sat Dec 3, 2011 12:01 pm Post #8 |
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I like your theory, Ixbran, and I hadn't even considered it as a possibility. But it does make sense. My own guess as to why they're included is to try and attract other gamers who don't play DW/SW, at least in the case of Ryu and Ayane. |
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| cooljosh21 | Sat Dec 3, 2011 8:17 pm Post #9 |
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My God that was a long post that I refuse to read. But I think they added them because they want more people buying it who dont like the series. THeir little strategy is working too. |
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| Nazshiaakk | Sat Dec 3, 2011 9:10 pm Post #10 |
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simple Taoist
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hmmm... i like it. |
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| Ixbran | Sat Dec 3, 2011 9:36 pm Post #11 |
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^ _ ^ thank you |
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| Skode | Sat Dec 3, 2011 11:23 pm Post #12 |
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Joan of Arc does fit the bird engulfed in flames (phoenix)... given she was burned at the stake |
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| Ixbran | Sat Dec 3, 2011 11:32 pm Post #13 |
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first post edited with that new tidbit of info : ) thank you very much for reminding me of that Skode. |
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| Noah | Sun Dec 4, 2011 5:46 am Post #14 |
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i was aiming at ryu and ayane btw probably should've mention it before but as for the other characters i couldnt care less |
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| Last_Stallion | Sun Dec 4, 2011 7:32 am Post #15 |
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First and foremost they're a marketing strategy to get fans of their respective series to be interested in the game. Secondly, considering the Orochi games (and most crossovers) are mainly fan services, the guest characters act as fan service to the other fans. This is tied with my first reason. --------------- To be honest, I'm not a big fan of their inclusion and would much rather prefer more original characters. I don't hate their inclusion, but I'm not exactly jumping for joy that they've been added. |
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| Ixbran | Sun Dec 4, 2011 7:41 am Post #16 |
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@Last_Stallion i meant story wise |
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| Joetri10 | Sun Dec 4, 2011 7:45 am Post #17 |
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Its a marketing strategy.. Thats about it, its not very hard to figure out ... Take the Super Smash series for example... They have a HUGE catalog of nintendo characters they could have but sometimes they choose odd characters just so the games can get more well known (Shout out to Fire Emblem!) and they choose Sonic and Snake because they knew it would attract people..You are simply looking for something that isnt there Simple rule.. Why have a certain character = Well why not? Also i think we can all agree that whoever they choose to bring into this game, they wont bring any historical facts with them, they are simply names to Koei.. Heck, if Koei stayed true to the Novel in Dw, it would be a MUCH different game. Edited by Joetri10, Sun Dec 4, 2011 7:47 am.
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| Last_Stallion | Sun Dec 4, 2011 10:45 am Post #18 |
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I think it was marketing first, then story. The story in WO was just Orochi getting people from DW and SW and making them fight against him for the lulz. Nothing complicated about that, and I think it's the same for WO3. Koei-Tecmo saw this as their chance to include other characters from different franchises, have a fantasy-like reason to include them (see: Unrealistic) and knew it would make the respective fans interested in the game. |
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| ChibiGingi | Sun Dec 4, 2011 10:48 am Post #19 |
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I ain't mad. I'm ecstatic that they're in this game no matter how people like you feel, that's all. So, continue feeling how you feel. It makes no difference, whatsoever. To original poster- That's rather interesting... |
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| Ixbran | Sun Dec 4, 2011 6:54 pm Post #20 |
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thank you kindly Chibi : ) |
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| Nazshiaakk | Sun Dec 4, 2011 10:38 pm Post #21 |
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I woke up today thinking about this and I was like, "Waaaiiiit a sec... didn't Joan of Arc burn at the stake.... I gotta post this!!!!" But, no... somebody beat me to it. lol Still, that makes your theory, even if turns out to be just a theory, a lot more interesting. And personally, I wish it would turn out something like this in the game; it would make the guest characters a little less random (as long as they don't dominate the story, which I'm not too worried about). Also. First Promo Video. Remember it had some kind of celestial wheel halfway through, past the montage of the previous WO games. It looked like a Zodiac thing. I thought it was pretty random. But if something like your theory came true, it might make sense then. In the end, all I want is a great story. Something new and thought-out. |
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| Anya | Mon Dec 5, 2011 2:42 am Post #22 |
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I like how two of the three poll options compliment your theory by callling it creative. Someone thinks highly of themselves. Kidding. Sarcasm aside, I doubt Koei would put that much thought into the guest characters. If anything they would of done your theory into new mystics since they're more guarantee to be in any future Orochi titles, rather than the guests. |
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| Sorccenobi | Mon Dec 5, 2011 4:25 am Post #23 |
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Doesn't Koei already have three of those? http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/dwds-characters.php |
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| Ixbran | Tue Dec 6, 2011 4:25 am Post #24 |
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not in warriors orochi |
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| FuriousFerocity | Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:58 pm Post #25 |
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i've been playing warriors games and DOA for a decade now, and regardless of why they included guest characters, i think it's cool. the whole WO series is a cross-over, so i don't see a reason not to bring in fan-favorites from other games. i just think they did it for that, but that's still a really cool and well thought out idea. |
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... Take the Super Smash series for example... They have a HUGE catalog of nintendo characters they could have but sometimes they choose odd characters just so the games can get more well known (Shout out to Fire Emblem!) and they choose Sonic and Snake because they knew it would attract people..

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