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| Wild Lion | Thu Jun 7, 2012 7:13 pm Post #26 |
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I think the UE should be the main antagonist for the next game if they decide to do another crossover story. Maybe the UE could team up with the ELS to have shiny liquid metal Gafrans flying all over space, while the heroes travel to Mars to destroy the Vegan's home base and send Setsuna to the ELS homeworld. Now wouldn't that be a sweet final stage? The AGE story structure would be cool for a crossover - you could have AGE-01 and the RX-78 teaming up in the first generation, then AGE-02 beside the Zeta and the Wing boys for the second, and the third generation with AGE-03 battling with the Destiny and Victory / F91 suits. Maybe the ZZ could be shown as the inspiration to create AGE-03? In terms of tech advancement, I would put it something like: First Gen AGE-01, Gundam, 0080, 0083 Second Gen AGE-02, Zeta, Wing, X Third Gen AGE-03, Destiny, 00, Unicorn, Crossbone (this would work well considering the new enemies showing up in AGE) Edited by Wild Lion, Thu Jun 7, 2012 11:15 pm.
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| Re4_Wesker | Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:21 pm Post #27 |
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Since we are in AGE-3 now I may as well update how I think (or atleast hope) the AGE character roster would look in DW gundam 4 Spoiler: click to toggle
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| Wild Lion | Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:27 pm Post #28 |
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Since apparently AGE isn't even showing up in Full Boost, maybe Level 5 has some kind of exclusive game rights to it (besides G-Gen, which somehow gets the rights to EVERYTHING Gundam related ever) So I'm thinking... maybe AGE won't even show up in GM4 at all? Because if it does, it's either gonna get shafted or be the main focus of the game. It's got way too many main suits to just be a normal addition |
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| Master Omega | Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:34 pm Post #29 |
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Consider the fact that the 00 DLC made it the number one in terms of adds, it's very likely Koei would do that. They increased the number of pilots and Class 1 MS adds when they went from DWG2 to DWG3. |
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| Wild Lion | Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:03 pm Post #30 |
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Well then, what do you think about making the AGE-01 and 02 a Class 2 suit? It might be a good way to show the progression of technology from 1-2-3-FX if they include them all. I personally don't see enough uniqueness of AGE 01 and 02 to justify a full moveset. So let's say: Class 3 - Gafran, Genoace (or Dorado and Clanche) Class 2 - Age-01, Age-02, Zedas Class 1 - Age-03, FX, Ghirarga, Legilis Gundam, Dark Hound Since 5 is the most Class 1 suits we've seen any series get so far, I want to limit it to that for Age to be on the safe side |
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| Master Omega | Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:04 pm Post #31 |
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That could work, but only if they added in a new moveset style to the class 2s. Since the AGE-1 and 2 both have alternate forms that could be exploited NT-D style.
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| Wild Lion | Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:12 pm Post #32 |
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Why would the moveset style have to change? As Class 2s, they could work exactly like NT-D Air SP attack: Spallow, Orbital and Double Bullet Ground SP attack: Titus, Fortress and whatever for 02 |
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| Master Omega | Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:03 pm Post #33 |
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I forgot that Class 2s had ASPs. |
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| Re4_Wesker | Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:41 am Post #34 |
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I'd have the Double Bullet be the AGE-2's ground special while it's air special could be its transformation/jet mode thing. I like the idea of having some of these suits as Class 2s. If they were to do this though I would expect them to really flesh out their class 2 roster. In other words they should add more suits from other series that could easily fit into the Class 2 roster (Tallgeese 1, Guntank, Messala, etc.) |
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| Wild Lion | Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:52 pm Post #35 |
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Gonna go a little off topic here, but I don't want to start a new thread in a board with only 3 people posting I wouldn't want Tallgeese 1 even as a Class 2, because I want to avoid clones / doubles as much as possible. Now if they gave it a completely different moveset, I could see it working, but they had to make up the majority of Tallgeese II's moveset already, so they don't have much to work with. Now as far as Class 2's I'd like to see, they're mostly aced-up grunt suits: Messala Serpent (if EW gets in. If not, then a Virgo unit) Kampfer (possibly I'd expect it to get the same treatment as Turn-X in GM2) Xeku-Eins Guntank Zaku III Custom Dooben-Wolf Delta Plus Asshimar (or even those new ones from Unicorn) Vigna Ghina (Cecily needs something, but not a Class 1) Gebera Tetra (0083 was a 3-sided conflict, we need a rep from Cima's side and I'm sick of seeing her Gelgoog instead of this beauty) Flag I feel like Class 2 is largely overlooked and underappreciated when it could be used for those mass prodiced suits that always seem a step above mere cannon fodder Edited by Wild Lion, Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:23 pm.
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| Re4_Wesker | Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:48 pm Post #36 |
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The funny thing about Tallgeese I is that people seem to want it. A few people i've talked asked if the Tallgeese was in DW Gundam 3. I was like "Yeah the Tallgeese II is in the game.". Of course they would respond with "The Tallgeese II? No i wanted the Tallgeese I." Anyways the Tallgeese I could work because Milliardo pilotted it instead of Treize meaning the majority of the suits melee attacks would be vastly different. But yeah just using it as a general example really lol. I had a list of suits I wanted to see in the next game. I'll just put up the class 2 portion of that list here real quick. Spoiler: click to toggle
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| Wild Lion | Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:15 pm Post #37 |
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Looks like we've got about the same idea for what would make a great Class 2 suit Let's hope Koei agrees! |
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| Joshelplex | Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:20 am Post #38 |
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Tallgeese 1 should be in on the grounds that the T1 is boss, moreso than 2 or 3. Id be totally fine if it was a simple model edit of the T2 even. |
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| SazukeEX | Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:52 pm Post #39 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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I'm going with... They'll only add AGE-1 in the next DG so that more slots can be used for better things. Besides it would make things better if AGE was added in slowly and not just hurling all the main characters, from different gens, and their Gundams in one go. |
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| Wild Lion | Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:50 pm Post #40 |
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It might seem better, but if 00 is any indication.... |
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| SazukeEX | Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:38 pm Post #41 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Well AGE isn't as popular so I don't see the need for a rush for all AGEs at once. |
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| Xalfrea | Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:57 pm Post #42 |
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The current arc of AGE solves this pesky problem. Old man Flit in the upgraded AGE-1, Pirate Asemu in the AGE-2 Dark Hound, and Kio in the AGE-FX. And I doubt "popularity" is an issue when it comes to GM4 adds. Why else add Gundam X to the GM3? |
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| Zeik Liberated | Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:09 pm Post #43 |
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Personally... Just get it over and done with. None of this durdling about like with Victory, F91 and X just get it over and done with now, let AGE have it's game and be done with it. Realistically what do they have to add new game, AGE, 00 Movie, update Unicorn and maybe an OVA add like 08th. Sort these out get them over and done with, make the story focus on these shows (if you can't do something with Shido, ELS and Devil Gundam, you have no imagination) , let the older guys get some good time of course, just make it so we don't have to worry about these shows any more and if this means we use 4-5 slots on AGE fine. I'd rather have a full show than these half done messes we have now. Sort AGE, 00 and Unicorn, the new shows out, finished and book closed and use any remaining places on sorting out the shows that need it. Throw G Shadow so we have the important story characters done for Devil, add Zabine and the Frost bro's and finish of Zeta/ZZ. We don't need anything more from MSG and add back the stuff from CCA, just lets stop with this drip and drab crap. Finish a show. Finish a show. Finish a show. Rather than leave these half done rosters. |
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| SazukeEX | Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:59 am Post #44 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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The issue is that if they do a lot AGE now than other series that are already in will be left hanging once again. Just like we were missing a lot of stuff for other series in DWG3 in favor of new series entree's. I would prefer that we get those series done first and have AGE wait just like the other series have to. |
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| Zeik Liberated | Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:36 pm Post #45 |
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The problem with that is AGE is new, they will want that on the front cover. So I'd rather them finish the 3 new shows off and one or two old ones, rather than yet more scattered adds. Personally I hope they finish 00 Movie, update Unicorn, get AGE's final gen (the important one) done and dusted. Then finish off a old UC show and an old AU show. Finish off these rosters, let them have there spot light and move on for next game. And by finish a show I'm talking at the least have all the end stuff in the game. I don't want nor need more Ramba Ral/ M'Quve type characters unless they try a SRW style story, but that's a whole new ball game. Get me the main's with there final suits a few side characters like Fram, Seric, etc maybe a Mobile Armour boss and thats it. Show done. Next. |
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| Master Omega | Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:28 pm Post #46 |
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Agreed, 100% on that last part. Koei weighed themselves down due to having a massive cast that simply didn't do much. Having a limited number of pilots per show would probably help out. But then again, choosing isn't too hard. |
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| SazukeEX | Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:43 pm Post #47 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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You know the most likely scenario for AGE is that we only get their Kid versions for the main cast and some villains. |
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| Master Omega | Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:45 pm Post #48 |
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I don't think they would risk that. They went out of their way with the DLC to nearly finish 00s roster. If AGE is the new series they use for advertising, then they will try their hardest to hit all three generations. While I honestly despise AGE at this point, I'm simply preparing for the worst. |
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| ShogunRok | Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:35 pm Post #49 |
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My Grandma could handle this gig.
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To be fair it's probably best to be prepared for the worst case scenario. While I would rather Koei spare us from AGE-centered plots while pushing the rest of the cast into the void, I fully expect them to slap everyone in the face with the new series. Saying that though, because AGE hasn't been a super gigantic success, it is possible it won't completely swamp the game... I guess. Still like I said, best not to hold your breath. |
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| Master Omega | Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:52 pm Post #50 |
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I just hope they don't break these guys due to in-universe plot armor. |
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