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| Megaupload Shut Down....; ....by the Feds. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:44 pm (2,202 Views) | |
| Winged Destiny | Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:33 am Post #26 |
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The Killer Kunoichi
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You're right, SOPA hasn't been passed. But why now to fully shut down MU/MV? To me, they're trying to use the momentum of SOPA to drive their rights of saying that MU is a website within their jurisdiction. Sure, there may be U.S. Servers, but MU/MV is used worldwide and the original severs resides in Hong Kong; at least from what I've heard. And shutting the whole site down causes a problem not only for U.S. users but the whole entire Internet world. Not to mention, all of you anime fans can't resort to MV for your anime needs anymore. That's one less mirror site to use for animes. As for the KW OSTs, I'd say hold up on re-upping those because we don't know what other sites will eventually be taken down. So might as well play it safe for now, until everything clears up. Mediafire seems to be highly used nowadays, so I can only suspect that's their next target if they even have one. As for Torrents, yes MU getting shut down will make people resort to Torrents because they can no longer rely on DDLs for big files over 200 MB without being compressed into an archive. But the problem with Torrents is if no one is seeding the files, you're going to be downloading whatever it is you're downloading for days/weeks/months depending on the filesize. |
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| Sakon Shima | Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:13 am Post #27 |
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I think 4shared will be another victim |
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| Komatsu | Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:43 am Post #28 |
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I'm not saying it isn't a problem, because it definitely is, and it sets a very bad precedent. One country should never have control of something that's used globally on the Internet like that and they should not be allowed to arrest people overseas for "Internet crimes". However, the point remains that SOPA has not passed and doesn't have anything to do with this. This is something that happened without SOPA, and it's something that really shouldn't have happened. What's important is that people recognise that. Mediafire operates a little differently than Megaupload. For one, they don't have the incentive program will pay people for getting hits on their files (as... far as I know!) The same is also true of a few other websites. They're just not as popular or as efficient to use. In any case, I certainly hope that they don't continue to target file sharing websites. They're not just used to pirate things, but many people use them to back up files (myself include). This, along with SOPA, are really bad indications of where the American government wants to take "Internet safety" or "anti-piracy" actions. They can call it whatever they want, but in the end they're catering to big entertainment corporations who can pay them the most money.
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| shodrive | Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:08 am Post #29 |
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I can't believe this I mean, though I've never been the biggest megaupload user (T_T not to mention my government actually blocked the site last year), I could almost always except a good dl-speed from it (most of the time). Sigh. =_=;;
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| Baphomet | Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:58 pm Post #30 |
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Not that I expect anyone to read this but I posted it in another topic, MU got killed because it was involved in shady money laundering/trafficking deals. SOPA had nothing to do with it. |
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| Lil'Richard | Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:39 pm Post #31 |
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What bothers me is that MegaUpload wasn't the worst of these "sharing" sites. Piratebay, among others are far worse when it comes to pirating (duh). The US Feds should get their priorities straight. And yet, this is all in response to the US SOPA that will likely not get passed because because none of the old farts in Congress has any idea what it is because they have no clue about the internet. So this is just them flexing their muscles. It wouldn't surprise me though that MU will back up in a few years. Someone's bound to pick it up. @Baphomet How does this involve money laundering? I would like to know the entire issue, because it would only be shut down if the people going there had to pay for services all the time and that money went somewhere else. If there was a real issue they would have cracked down on it a long time ago. Its too coincidental that they shut this down right as the Congress is debating on SOPA. Money laundering was most likely an excuse to shut it down, because technically all sites that ask for money are laundering it. So that means iTunes and all porn sites would be shut down if that's the case. Edited by Lil'Richard, Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:45 pm.
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| Shigeharu | Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:14 pm Post #32 |
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Entertainment companies need to reconsider their business plan in the face of changing technology. What they're doing to combat piracy now is something like trying to get rid of an ant invasion by stepping on them all one at a time. The inability of companies to adapt to a digital world never ceases to amaze me. Publishers are still trying to treat e-books the same way they'd treat hardcovers, right down to ridiculous licensing agreements that don't let libraries check them out to more than one person at the same time and make libraries rebuy them after ~26 checkouts. It's crazy. The anime industry has been getting a lot better, with putting licensed digisubs up pretty quickly for some series and by working with sites like Crunchyroll instead of trying to shut them down. I really wish more industries would follow this example and consider how they can bring the internet better into their own distribution plans. |
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| Ryoreiki | Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:06 pm Post #33 |
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OMG, are you serious? So they shut down the third (or maybe second) best file sharing site? The Internet is not going to be friendly in this day and age. Edited by Ryoreiki, Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:11 pm.
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| Mei Ling | Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:10 pm Post #34 |
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Just so everyone is aware....this doesn't just affect us in the US (including the SOPA bill and stuff) This will also affect EVERYONE in the world, so don't go thinking you're in the clear just yet. |
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| Xiuzhao | Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:21 pm Post #35 |
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It's fairly obvious when you consider that Kim Dotcom or whatever he wants to be called personally made $42 million in 2010 alone through his various websites, and that $175 million in assets were seized from the various defendants. |
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| Baphomet | Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:44 am Post #36 |
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It's because the guys in charge of MU were making MONEY off of other people's copyrighted work. It wasn't a case of simple piracy, they were profiting HUGE off other people's hard work be it from the little guy or a big company. It was pretty serious stuff and they were blowing tons of that money on very expensive purchases for self gain. |
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| Nefertieh | Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:50 am Post #37 |
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I don't think it was ethical for Megaupload to be earning such huge profits from filesharing, but then and again, I think it frightening to see just how much power the entertainment industry has. FBI arrests? Extraditions? The New Zealand government couldn't even order an extradition of an American woman who euthanized a lady suffering from depression to face charges here. On top of that, the entertainment industry has made record profits during the recession, whereas most other families are struggling. ![]() I've also heard that Megaupload was targeted because they were going to offer a service that would allow new artists to self-publish without having to sign up for labels. Edited by Nefertieh, Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:54 am.
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| SRS | Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:20 am Post #38 |
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Upon further research, I withdraw my previous comment regarding the arrest of Dotcom himself. However, I still find issue with this case, and this article brings up some of those troubling points. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120120/00373617487/megaupload-details-raise-significant-concerns-about-what-doj-considers-evidence-criminal-behavior.shtml |
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| Flashbang Incentive | Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:53 pm Post #39 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tD1yaE0GfQ&feature=g-logo&context=G2dbf398FOAAAAAAAAAA This is probably even more relevant here...Thank God I never used MegaUpload. IF what this guy is saying is true. Edited by Flashbang Incentive, Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:55 pm.
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| Joshelplex | Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:48 pm Post #40 |
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People are going to ignore that and still insist this is SOPA and that the MU guys aren't doing anything wrong, despite, ya know, all that abetting piracy and all that money laundering, things that are kinda super illegal everywhere. |
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| MarQ | Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:59 pm Post #41 |
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If that guy is telling the truth, then I am totally screwed... Damn I'm actually kinda scared
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| Ryoreiki | Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:59 pm Post #42 |
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Wow, the Internet world will not be a pretty one. But like the guy said, this is all the "Worst Case Scenario". Edited by Ryoreiki, Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:21 pm.
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| Balder | Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:32 pm Post #43 |
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This just in - 90% of the World's population imprisoned on charges of IP theft. President of Earth ponders moving Tibetan monks and African villagers who never saw a computer in their lives to the Moon so that they are not forced to live in a prison colony with the rest of the download-happy scum. If it's true the guys behind MU were in shady business then it's only fair that they are brought before justice, HOWEVER, the notion of the entertainment industry having the government's military machine and legal system on their sock puppet shelf is a scary one. This twisted notion of values, this anti-human corporate machine is frightening. We're not dealing with terrorists here, nor human trafficking or arms dealing or even hacking that puts nations in danger...at least not that I know of. Taking as granted that the people behind MU were neck deep in illicit businesses, it's still scary that the entertainment industry can muscle the US law enforcement entities to fish ANYONE ON THIS PLANET and make them answer for cyber-crimes, regardless of how petty they are. If those bloodsucking dogs from Hollywood plan on using the info on MU users to fill their fat pockets on bogus damage law suits then I'm dead certain there's going to be riots on the streets. I throw that expression a lot and usually on candid contexts, but this time I do literally mean riots on the streets. |
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| Winged Destiny | Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:46 pm Post #44 |
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As of this post, I've watched the video halfway(slow connection speed). If everything that this guy says is true, then damn U.S. is going to see hell someday. I hope U.S. doesn't go seizing people from other countries just to make them pay for violating U.S. copyright laws; if that does happen, other countries probably won't be too satisfied with how much power the U.S. has. Well he did use a lot of references, so they do seem likely to bet true. And if they are, I just can't imagine how this is going to turn out. However, in this video, he sounds too sarcastic to make it believable. It's like he's having so much fun just scaring people.
I'd have to agree with this here. |
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| Nefertieh | Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:17 am Post #45 |
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The guy in the video is just fear mongering. Megaupload receives 50 million hits a day, it would be pointless to store any user data, with the exception of paid users. The entertainment industry does not want to to persecute individual users because of the high cost and backlash that comes with it. Kim Dotcom was the perfect target, he lived like a druglord. Cases like Jammie Thomas-Rasset and Joel Tenenbaum only escalated into such huge fines against them because they were uploading songs and refused to stop after they were given a cease-and-desist warning. |
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| JHouser | Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:51 am Post #46 |
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Now Filesonic disabled sharing...............and uploaded.to is blocked on US residents. It begins. |
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| r0xm2n | Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:11 am Post #47 |
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File hosting sites currently dead: Megaupload FileSonic (can only download your files) Fileserve (can only download your files) Uploaded.to (blocks US traffic) FileJungle (mass deleting of files) UploadStation (mass deleting of files) FilePost (many accounts blocked) 4shared (lots of files deleted) hotfile (apparently) VideoBB (closed affiliate program) VideoZer (closed affiliate program) Wupload (deleted links) And those are the ones I've HEARD about. Rapidshare seems to be the main fire sharing site standing it's ground, and publically too. http://www.neowin.net/news/rapidshare-team-not-worried-about-megaupload-shutdown |
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:11 am Post #48 |
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And not a single one of those I use... not to sound callous or anything, but I really don't blame them for willingly shutting down or limiting their services. Not with what's going on with SOPA, PIPA, OPEN and most recently Megaupload. Seems like they're covering their own hides... Yet PirateBay remains untouched. Maybe they know better... |
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| Komatsu | Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:36 am Post #49 |
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Hasn't the Pirate Bay gotten in trouble before? With torrents, it's possible for them to be tracked publicly by the copyright holders, who can then ask your ISP (service provider) to shut your internet down until you delete the offending files from your computer. I know this from experience. ![]() Torrent files are relatively small and that's all that TPB does, is host those tiny files. They're not hosting the infringing material themselves, that's all done on people's personal computers. |
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| Flyentology | Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:27 pm Post #50 |
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Yeah, TPB was shut down once before by US and Swedish feds when they were raided back in 2006 with several arrests made. TPB is a great example of a decentralized DNS though, and was able to have their services back up and running a couple days later. The MPAA has been trying for years to get rid of them, but TPB have servers all over the world, and it's unlikely they'll probably never get shut down for good. |
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