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Should Zuo Ci be added in DW7:E?
Yes 3 (18.8%)
2 (12.5%)
No 11 (68.8%)
Total Votes: 16
Poll: Zuo Ci; add him or not?; Do you want Zuo Ci in DW7:E
Topic Started: Fri Jun 1, 2012 2:12 am (680 Views)
YourClassicWeiYanFan
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My choice is yes. Heres my theory.

Fu Xi and Nu Wa were DW original characters but taken out and changed to WO. This makes sense, because they had absolutely no story or character relations whatsoever in DW3/XL, but then they got a major counterpart in WO2.

Zuo Ci had an 8 stage musou mode in DW5 where most characters had 5. He had many character relations, and appeared in some other peoples story mode. His rivalry to Cao Cao was also very unique. He also got some facetime in XL. In WO, they gave him a small counterpart in WO1 and near nothing in its sequels.

He is more of a DW character than a WO character IMO.

Please be mature about this topic; respect others opinions please and don't flame. I just thought it was an interesting topic since we were discussing it in the DW7:E thread.
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SnowMan
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No, I don't want him ever to come back as a part of the DW series. As far as I'm concerned he's a WO character now. I'm fine with that and I hope it stays that way. Even if it's an Empires game, he's not a DW character anymore.
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Ryoreiki
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Do not pursue.....
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I think this needs to be at another section.

While I have times where I completely disagree with above's statements, this is an exception.
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RandomGuySaysHi
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i'm indifferent about this. Would i like to play as Zuo Ci? yes. Do i think he should be in the game? No.

i think they should add him in here, only because Koei wouldn't have to build any story around him, and he is a very enjoyable character to play. wouldn't hurt to have another 'Other' officer either.

To OP: what do you mean by counter part, and he didn't really have a rivalry with Cao Cao. A rivalry implies that it is a competition. i Haven't played that game for a long time, but i only remember him putting Cao Cao through trials every few stages or something. I don't recall them doing battle.
Edited by RandomGuySaysHi, Fri Jun 1, 2012 8:21 am.
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Daosiying
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Considering what his role is in regarding Cao Cao's death in the novel as well as other bits of historical fiction from old Chinese works, it's fine if he came back. Though his participation should be strictly where he was actually involved as far as the source material goes. Historical accuracy isn't a goal of these games and people shouldn't be looking at it in that fashion since the historical fiction novel is the source.

This mentality of keeping certain characters in the Orochi crossovers I think is asinine in the manner in which most people voice it. Zuo Ci does have a place in the narrative with regards to Cao Cao so his inclusion is fine as long as they stick with that particular story instead of historical causes of death.

Use of Himiko is iffy though seeing as that's pretty much early trade relations between Cao Wei and Yamataikoku without any real influence on the political or war conflict in China to my knowledge. Even if she were to make an appearance, it'd best work either as a NPC with a unique design, or as a bonus character like Fu Xi and Nu Wa were in DW3.

While we're at it, Bonus characters are totally fine to add to the game. A plus is a plus no matter what way you look at it. But instead people whine too much about certain other famous figures not getting a spot which becomes a moot when bonus characters are strictly bonuses. Not stealing some spotlight from someone in the story.
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kaiosuke37
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I said no, but if he were to be altered in any way, then I would reconsider. Otherwise it won't make a difference, especiallly in DW7E, considering the amount of character customation that will be present.
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WarHawk
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Where did bandana go?
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If blank means don`t care, i`m for it, because some part of me says "yes" - his movesets are awesome and he could be implemented everywhere in story, when other says "no" - he is typical useless character that add nothing to DW overall story, and he is the same class mystic as Taigong Wang, Fu Xi and Nu Wa that makes him more WO exclusive than actual DW character.
ow I made very long sentence <_<
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NekoWarrior
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He's defiantly a WO character now sadly, hasn't been a dw one since the dw5 series. besides he's always been a mystical guy anyway so he fits with the other ones aswell.
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Though he's a character that I like, I have accepted the fact that he's no longer a DW character but only a character for the WO franchise. He looks too much like a mystic character to appear again in DW. Anyway, I'd rather see a real new Other character
added rather than a guest character, this time. Other characters lacks of characters
a lot. Yuan Shu, please.
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Ryoreiki
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Do not pursue.....
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Tsukiyama
Fri Jun 1, 2012 8:39 am
Anyway, I'd rather see a real new Other character
added rather than a guest character, this time. Other characters lacks of characters
a lot. Yuan Shu, please.
You can say that again. lol
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DarkSaviour
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He was a solid character in DW5 and WO, little bit overpowered but still good. It would be nice if they bring him back but if not I won't cry.
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Terrorcons45
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As much as I love Zuo Ci, I feel Yu Ji should replace him with the cards. I want to see him have a storyline with the Sun family.
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I don't think that Yu Ji is necessary at all, especially if he's just going to replace Zuo Ci. Having him as a generic character is enough, since he only appears for the death of Sun Ce. They should really add characters such as Yuan Shu, Ma Teng or Cheng Gong for the male characters, instead. Just my personal opinion though.

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On Zuo Ci; if he's added again in a DW game, it will probably be for the SF games. You know, like Fu Xi, Nuwa, Sun Wukong and Sanzang as guest characters in SF2. It would make sense, if the game is completely fictional with Chinese deities and such.
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WarHawk
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Where did bandana go?
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Tsukiyama
Fri Jun 1, 2012 10:37 am
Yuan Shu, Ma Teng or Cheng Gong
This trio for Empires please. :P
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Saber
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Zuo Ci has been confirmed not to return. (And furthermore, his addition won't be so important anyways)

This case is minor, thus it's best if it's just discussed in the DW7: Empires thread instead.

Closed.
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