LsJamm

Jun 29 2012, 11:25 PM

This is absolutely awful, when did this happen, today, because i've heard nothing about this any where. This is absolutely disgusting, those pictures made me want to cry. They have to be down right the worst Buddhist's ever, not sure you can really call them that actually.
Not suprised about the UN, the UN never seems to be doing anything except look after themselves and money or whatever, never hear good things coming from them.

Pride

Jun 29 2012, 10:18 PM

What do you think? Why is the UN keeping a blind eye to this? Why is it that we associate Muslims with terrorism when Muslims are the people that get butchered the most in countless parts of the world?

Srose343

Jul 3 2012, 04:20 PM

As much as it sickens me, this is the sad sad world we live in, it's moments like this that make me realize that religions are sometime the sole causes of war and outbreak.

scholar

Jul 3 2012, 06:09 PM

The reason why we associate Muslims with terrorism is because they are the ones that attack the West most prolifically. The other groups tend to massacre their neighbors rather than plot bombings in London, Madrid, or New York. Its not a fair distinction, but the reason why is because Muslim terrorists affect us the most.

Pride

Jul 8 2012, 08:36 PM

scholar

Jul 3 2012, 06:09 PM

The reason why we associate Muslims with terrorism is because they are the ones that attack the West most prolifically. The other groups tend to massacre their neighbors rather than plot bombings in London, Madrid, or New York. Its not a fair distinction, but the reason why is because Muslim terrorists affect us the most.

All those together are ten times smaller than the number of Muslims killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and the like by the hands of western governments.

Sorry I dragged the topic away a bit, it's just that I got a bit emotional there. I find it disgusting how Muslims are killed the most around the world and yet are labelled as terrorists.

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You're thinking of the Western Militaries as a blunt instrument when in reality it is surgical in precision

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then you'll find that the numbers game really is quite a moot point.

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The conflicts in the Middle East are wars, most of them civil wars. The deaths that occur there are mostly Muslim v. Muslim.

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Further, there are no acts at all carried out by the West to destroy Muslim communities based solely on the fact that they are "Muslim"

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The hatred for Muslims as Terrorists have never been a majority opinion, the closest thing we had to that in the United States was shortly after September Eleventh, but reports shortly after that swayed opinion away from that.

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Then when the Sacred Months (the 1st, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikun {unbelievers} wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat {the Islamic ritual prayers}), and give Zakat {alms}, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

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The Quran's commandments to Muslims to wage war in the name of Allah against non-Muslims are unmistakable. They are, furthermore, absolutely authoritative as they were revealed late in the Prophet's career and so cancel and replace earlier instructions to act peaceably. Without knowledge of the principle of abrogation, Westerners will continue to misread the Quran and misdiagnose Islam as a "religion of peace."

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(5) Based on the above, we can now investigate verse (9:5), "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." One of the main concerns of Chapter (Surah) 9 of the Quran (a Surah is a collection of verses) was to delineate the strategies for dealing with the polytheists of the Arabian Peninsula after the Muslims, under the leadership of Prophet Muhammad, peacefully captured Mecca (In January, 630, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him and his followeres were joined by tribe after tribe along their way to Mecca. They entered Mecca without bloodshed and the Meccans, seeing the tide had turned, joined them.) the city that since the beginning of Islam lead the oppression and persecution of the Muslim converts.

(6) Since the polytheists differed in their relationship with the new religion after its victory, there was a need to differentiate between the malevolent enemies of Islam bent on destroying the Muslims and who did not observe their treaties with the Muslims, those who hated Islam but were willing to honor their treaties with Muslims, those who rejected Islam but peacefully co-existed with the Muslim community, etc. The aforementioned verse (9:5) was concerned with the most vehement opponents of the Islamic faith not by virtue of their refusal to be Muslims but by continually breaching their treaties with the Muslims and fighting them. Given that, their treatment is not equal, the complete verse says, "So when the sacred months have passed away, then fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and keep them under observation, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely God is Forgiving, Merciful." Meaning: so when the grace period (4 months) is past, and if the other party insists on fighting Islam, then a state of war is inevitable. The struggle may take the form of killing, or capture and imprisonment, or just keeping an eye on these enemies to fend off their evil if they decide to launch an offensive against Muslims. The punishment should be fair and just and, thus, must be proportional to the crimes actually committed. Not only this, but the pagans can repent and accept Islam, as evident from the last part of (9:5), or desist from attacking Muslims and ask for protection, as evident from the next verse (9:6), "If one amongst the pagans ask you for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of God; and then escort him to where he can be secure."

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Sura 8:39

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And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do.

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8:67

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It is not fitting for an apostle that he should have prisoners of war until he hath thoroughly subdued the land. Ye look for the temporal goods of this world; but Allah looketh to the Hereafter: And Allah is Exalted in might, Wise.

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9:29

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9:33

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It is He Who hath sent His Apostle with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

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Gregory M. Davis, an Islam expert says...

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It is He Who hath sent His Apostle with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

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Without knowledge of the principle of abrogation, Westerners will continue to misread the Quran and misdiagnose Islam as a "religion of peace."

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Surgical in precision? Have you any idea just how many people died in the bombings in Iraq in the quest for mass destruction weapons that they never found?

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Why is a country like the US stand with a tyrannical country like Israel?

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Bombings in Gaza and Lebanon have happened for several decades now and most people die there by the hands of the Israeli government rather than terrorist groups like Hizb Allah.

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I honestly don't think so. Palestinian kids throwing rocks at Israeli tanks,

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tens of pictures of US soldiers smiling next to dead children in Afghanistan, all that makes it clear to me.

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Three thousand people have died in 9/11, that is tragic, but it doesn't justify the genocide committed in Afghanistan to find whoever is allegedly responsible.

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Someone might think I'm being biased here because of my roots, but let me assure you that I hate Palestine and most Iraqis for what they did to my country in 1990, and I feel grateful for The States for their payed help, but I feel I need to say what's right here.

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Not really. Civil wars, like Syria and Libya, only broke out last year. The civil war in Lebanon had a great Israeli influence, and the Kuwait-Iraq war wasn't as catastrophic as the bombings in Iraq, Gaza, and Afghanistan. Hell, even Bush said Iraq was a Holy War for him >,>

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I'd agree that this is mostly true. Basically, it's just greedy politicians wanting oil, and zealots in Israel killing for religious purposes. Funny, considering whothe 'zealots' in the media's eyes are

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But what you don't seem to realize is that that is rather surgical. Iraq and Afghanistan are not being invaded through old style armies of tanks, artillery, and infantry. The number of forces is kept relatively small compared to older wars, tactics are far more reserved, targets are selected more carefully than ever before. We target and incinerate buildings or city blocks rather than bombarding entire towns and cities in the hopes of attaining a target. There's a clearly defined difference that's impossible to ignore between the military of the United States and that of previous older wars. If you think that Iraq was bad, take a brief look into Vietnam.

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It goes back to the Cold War, but given the growing importance of the Middle East in the world Isreal is a vital piece in a much larger political game. That, and fear.

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Another reason why the U.S. supports Israel in this is because the Israelis are incredibly friendly with us and would instantly go to war with any nation we need them to (so long as its not suicidal) with only a word, while the other groups are very unfriendly to the United States. 'Support an ally who's fighting to prevent terrorist attacks on their own homes or support a potential enemy and betray a friend?' Its not a hard choice. The results are heart wrenching, but its a choice that is the smartest move to be made.

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That's not that bad, to be honest. I'd truly be worried if there weren't a few kids throwing rocks at the tanks of their occupiers, because it would mean that Palestine had become broken.

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They're all court marshaled and dishonorably discharged. You would have to be pretty ignorant of the codes of the United States Armed forces to think that that was accepted common practice and that they didn't go unpunished. I've enough family in the U.S. military to take offense if this was meant as a generalization against the U.S. military.

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Genocide? Well that's a frankly bizarre brand. Unless you categorize all forms of warfare to be genocide then its not an accurate description. I suppose you have proof of the United State's military's actions to ethnically cleanse Afghanistan? Apart from being Bizarre its also a very serious accusation, one that needs more than rhetoric and photos.

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Nice. Sounds like Mudslimes are getting a piece of their own medicine. Maybe next the Buddhists can destroy some Mudslime art and mosques to make up for the many Buddhists artifacts Mudslimes ruined.

I'm glad to see the people of Burma are doing their best to rid the world of Islam. We Europeans should learn from them.

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And its not religious zealotry that drives Israel, but rather nationalism and protectionism.

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I'm glad to see the people of Burma are doing their best to rid the world of Islam. We Europeans should learn from them.