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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
Topic Started: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:21 am (358,551 Views)
The Outsider
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Screw Crossbow should be for Xu Sheng imo, without a doubt!
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^^I would accept that, but doubt that he will come so early. Pan Zhang seems more logic, now that Guan Xing is there. I would also thankfully accept it for any Other warrior-type character. Gao Shun, Ji Ling, or...you know...those 3 unpopular ones.
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ThreeKingdomsWarrior
Sun May 19, 2013 9:14 pm
^^I would accept that, but doubt that he will come so early. Pan Zhang seems more logic, now that Guan Xing is there. I would also thankfully accept it for any Other warrior-type character. Gao Shun, Ji Ling, or...you know...those 3 unpopular ones.
Yan Liang, Wen Chou or Hua Xiong you mean, eugh if either one of those came I'd... I seriously hope they never add Pan Zhang either, one of my top 5 characters never to be added. I don't think Xu Sheng will come yet but if he did the Screw Crossbow would be great for him :) .
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Sun May 19, 2013 9:27 pm
I seriously hope they never add Pan Zhang either, one of my top 5 characters never to be added.
Son, you dissapoint :uh:
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Skode
Sun May 19, 2013 9:37 pm
Chen Gong
Sun May 19, 2013 9:27 pm
I seriously hope they never add Pan Zhang either, one of my top 5 characters never to be added.
Son, you dissapoint :uh:
Yeah, we want Pan Zhang. I always imagined him as a heavy-hitter anyway. The weapon would make sense in a way. Its 3rd/main skin is green. Now, imagine Guan Xing beats him and takes his weapon as an achievement ^_^ .
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I personally just don't think he's a good enough general with any stand out achievements, everything he does is done better or can be told by surrounding characters in the roster (Lu Meng, Ling Tong and Gan Ning). I don't even think Koei would consider an ass like Pan Zhang, he isn't likable at all.
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Sun May 19, 2013 9:56 pm
I personally just don't think he's a good enough general with any stand out achievements, everything he does is done better or can be told by surrounding characters in the roster (Lu Meng, Ling Tong and Gan Ning). I don't even think Koei would consider an ass like Pan Zhang, he isn't likable at all.
He isnt likeable but neither are the likes of Dong Zhuo, Zhong Hui or even characters like Yuan Shu that we all want... its part of the appeal of the man, someone different and indeed unique in many ways because of the way he was. How often do Koei have such a unique character on their hands BEFORE they even start creating concept designs?

He was a solid officer if eccentric and did stand out if just not as much as others... thats like saying Taishi Ci doesnt deserve a place in the roster despite the fact he was an unquestionable asset to the forces of Sun Ce and koei really as already said by others need to start considering him now the likes of Guan Xing is playable in the cast - he would enrichen sections of the story. Hes one of those characters you know compliments the game even if he doesnt steal the spotlight - if that was merit enough for the likes of Ma Dai to be added to Shu then its good enough to add Pan Zhang to Wu for me.
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:whistle: People must really want Pan Zhang as a DLC Character, I guess :lol: Seeing all the posts about him. :lol:

OnTopic: Hoping soon for the last batch of DLC Costumes for Jin and Others. Wondering how they take the Others' route.
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The Outsider
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Skode
Sun May 19, 2013 10:10 pm
He isnt likeable but neither are the likes of Dong Zhuo, Zhong Hui or even characters like Yuan Shu that we all want... its part of the appeal of the man, someone different and indeed unique in many ways because of the way he was. How often do Koei have such a unique character on their hands BEFORE they even start creating concept designs?

He was a solid officer if eccentric and did stand out if just not as much as others... thats like saying Taishi Ci doesnt deserve a place in the roster despite the fact he was an unquestionable asset to the forces of Sun Ce and koei really as already said by others need to start considering him now the likes of Guan Xing is playable in the cast - he would enrichen sections of the story. Hes one of those characters you know compliments the game even if he doesnt steal the spotlight - if that was merit enough for the likes of Ma Dai to be added to Shu then its good enough to add Pan Zhang to Wu for me.
That's the difference though, they all push the story politically that they cannot be ignored, Pan Zhang's tale can easily be ignored as it causes no great effect in the grand scheme of things. Like putting Fa Zheng in Kingdom such as Shu would be difficult for Koei but 'cause he's a strategist he may be able to pull it off, straight up scum like Pan Zhang who serves nothing other than himself among already talented generals makes Zhang extremely questionable. Ma Dai is there to support Ma Chao and Taishi Ci has been in the series since Day 1, and Koei have now said they won't remove anybody from here one which means Ci is staying. If Pan Zhang was in the game earlier he wouldn't be removed either, but because his purpose is so lacking he just doesn't deserve a place. Warrior types are the least popular characters, bulky, selfish, lack or purpose, lack of story fueling generals are the absolute worst. He's definitely one of the worst characters in the entirety of Wu's history.

EDIT: I personally am not gonna carry on about Pan Zhang here 'cause he's really off topic :) .
Edited by The Outsider, Sun May 19, 2013 10:32 pm.
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Sun May 19, 2013 10:25 pm
Skode
Sun May 19, 2013 10:10 pm
He isnt likeable but neither are the likes of Dong Zhuo, Zhong Hui or even characters like Yuan Shu that we all want... its part of the appeal of the man, someone different and indeed unique in many ways because of the way he was. How often do Koei have such a unique character on their hands BEFORE they even start creating concept designs?

He was a solid officer if eccentric and did stand out if just not as much as others... thats like saying Taishi Ci doesnt deserve a place in the roster despite the fact he was an unquestionable asset to the forces of Sun Ce and koei really as already said by others need to start considering him now the likes of Guan Xing is playable in the cast - he would enrichen sections of the story. Hes one of those characters you know compliments the game even if he doesnt steal the spotlight - if that was merit enough for the likes of Ma Dai to be added to Shu then its good enough to add Pan Zhang to Wu for me.
That's the difference though, they all push the story politically that they cannot be ignored, Pan Zhang's tale can easily be ignored as it causes no great effect in the grand scheme of things. Like putting Fa Zheng in Kingdom such as Shu would be difficult for Koei but 'cause he's a strategist he may be able to pull it off, straight up scum like Pan Zhang who serves nothing other than himself among already talented generals makes Zhang extremely questionable. Ma Dai is there to support Ma Chao and Taishi Ci has been in the series since Day 1, and Koei have now said they won't remove anybody from here one which means Ci is staying. If Pan Zhang was in the game earlier he wouldn't be removed either, but because his purpose is so lacking he just doesn't deserve a place. Warrior types are the least popular characters, bulky, selfish, lack or purpose, lack of story fueling generals are the absolute worst. He's definitely one of the worst characters in the entirety of Wu's history.

EDIT: I personally am not gonna carry on about Pan Zhang here 'cause he's really off topic :) .
And yet Gao Shun would bring so much to the table, right? :whistle:
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Chen Gong
Sun May 19, 2013 10:25 pm
That's the difference though, they all push the story politically that they cannot be ignored, Pan Zhang's tale can easily be ignored as it causes no great effect in the grand scheme of things. Like putting Fa Zheng in Kingdom such as Shu would be difficult for Koei but 'cause he's a strategist he may be able to pull it off, straight up scum like Pan Zhang who serves nothing other than himself among already talented generals makes Zhang extremely questionable. Ma Dai is there to support Ma Chao and Taishi Ci has been in the series since Day 1, and Koei have now said they won't remove anybody from here one which means Ci is staying. If Pan Zhang was in the game earlier he wouldn't be removed either, but because his purpose is so lacking he just doesn't deserve a place. Warrior types are the least popular characters, bulky, selfish, lack or purpose, lack of story fueling generals are the worst. He's definitely one of the worst characters in the entirety of Wu's history.
You could say the same about most of the cast though - its easier to list a pile of names they COULDNT ignore because the story can move on without them than it is for those who Koei could if they wanted to. Whats so bad about the idea of a selfish general being thrown in the mix to contrast the bland deeply loyal and selfless characters like Zhou Tai - there should be room for both in the story.

Im surprised someone who is such a fan of Chen Gong is against such a character given he served Lu Bu who only served himself murdering one master after another and Diao Chan who is the most noted female in the novels because of her ploy to turn one man against another user her looks and body. All well rounded non-two dimensional characters that make the games better for their inclusions and continued contribution in the games.

You clearly hate the character but i think thats a good thing, we need a more darker arguable evil natured character to get away from some real bland additions as of late. As for Warrior characters not being popular i think your forgetting the likes of Zhao Yun are about as popular now as theyve ever been. People were aghast at the idea of Lui Shan being added because he was noted for being incompetent in his tenure at the top with Shu... these characters have flaws which enrichen the story not destory it from within, Wei Yan is another loved character who many would have baulked at because of the same reasons - he could have messed with the goody two shoes dynamics of the force but he didnt and Pan Zhang as such wont hamper Wu either. Its crazy to think that - scum nature or not he was loyal and he did well for them for a long period of time.

The only reason i would personally be against him is if they decided to include that crappy novel aspect where the ghost of Guan Yu starts showing up to haunt the man... we dont need that guff but thats it.
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I'm all for Pan Zhang to be added Wu needs someone dark and nasty that isn't Sun Hao
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To be honest i want no new characters in DW9. I'd rather have more time spent on game development than time on 10 new characters. They can come later.

But that's not how it works for fans unfortunately and KOEI know they will sell more copies by introducing new characters.
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One each would satisfy my gullet. While I wouldn't mind no new adds for 9, I know logic dictates that Koei won't do that, but it seems after the overhaul in 7, its been overhaul after overhaul, when everything could have been said and done with 1 character. Hopefully they go to one each in the future.

Of course...if they do something DRASTICALLY different in terms of gameplay experience, then maybe they can get away with no new characters because people will be too focused on how to make of the new experience.
Edited by Lil'Richard, Sun May 19, 2013 11:23 pm.
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I think they'll create a new gameplay experience...first, the next title is likely to be on the PS4, and second, a few of the new weapons we've got in DW8 have unique gameplay features, such as the Double-ended Mace. You have to turn the analog stick to extend its attacks, and that's something we've never seen in previous weapons. Maybe they can incorperate more gimmicks like these into all the weapons and use that as a base for a new style of gameplay in a future DW.
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Sun May 19, 2013 9:04 pm
Screw Crossbow should be for Xu Sheng imo, without a doubt!
No **** broh, it will be perfect considering it`s both melee and fire :)
Zhu Ran & Xu Sheng duo comes out? Why not? it might even in DW9! or ... maybe SF3.

Pan Zhang could come with Zhu Ran... as well as Jiang Qin. Heck It could be anyone.

Pan Zhang will come caz of Guan Xing?... haha nice joke, and stupid reason. More likely (only possibility) being added with Zhi Ran, as they have close ties and could be nice duo working together, though... they don`t really have much in common in terms of perosnallities as Zhu Ran and Xu Sheng, but it could be even advantage considering how they different were. Xu Sheng have some ties with Ran as well... so better not arguing and see what Koei decide. You and I both for Xu Sheng, when TK and Skode for Pan Zhang. Maybe even in Koei they have some hot discussion whom add next :lol:

BTW, I don`t see many people against Xu Sheng, when there are a lot of Pan Zhang non-supporters. I guess it`s because of his controversial nature, or ... novel, or something else. :sly:
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I wish after the DLC release on May 23, we could see the DLC for June. I want to see what are the DLC weapons next month.
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frozenram
Mon May 20, 2013 6:39 am
I wish after the DLC release on May 23, we could see the DLC for June. I want to see what are the DLC weapons next month.
I Hope the elder sword come back and new weapons as well.
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Will previous entry costumes return as DLC? I have seen a section that looks to be DYNASTY WARRIORS 3 on the JP Site but I'm not sure if that's in relation to the costumes.
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Will previous entry costumes return as DLC? I have seen a section that looks to be DYNASTY WARRIORS 3 on the JP Site but I'm not sure if that's in relation to the costumes.
I think so. also the section you're talking about might be DYNASTY WARRIORS 4 DLC stage "Battle of Jiangdong" with DLC animal support "White Tiger"
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frozenram
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I wish after the DLC release on May 23, we could see the DLC for June. I want to see what are the DLC weapons next month.
I Hope the elder sword come back and new weapons as well.
Well I want Twin Fans, Fork and Shield or Cross Halberd to return first. But I liked the Elder Sword moveset too, So I guess that weapon should return too.
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I hope they bring back every pointless tired weapon from the old games, every crappy sword and spear, because **** creativity!!!!!!!!11 :rolleyes:
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I hope they bring back every pointless tired weapon from the old games, every crappy sword and spear, because **** creativity!!!!!!!!11 :rolleyes:
You know what i do want it back...
Im serious..i mean if it has a balanced moveset and good animation,it will be a pleasure to watch it. Moveset determines the creativity of the weapon, not the design of the weapon.
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As I said once before, the only remaining character that I want to be add is Ma Su, but all the other one's are welcome .

I'm more interested in Ma Su due to his dramatic role in Shu.

What it's not dramatic in Shu afterall ? :whistle:
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I wonder if these joke weapons will have preset skills on them. I know they are made to match the outfits but I really really REALLY dislike them, its such a waste in my opinion, they could have done 2 original weapons with those 2 joke weapons batch.
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joke weapons I think will have set skills, maybe identical to the characters 5th weapon, load of crap. I'm curious to see the wired claws and horse whip though!
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