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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
Topic Started: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:21 am (358,542 Views)
frozenram
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For the Emei Daggers, here's what I found:
Video of Emei Daggers

(kinda fits for a new female character, not for Yuanji)
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frozenram
Fri May 24, 2013 9:16 am
For the Emei Daggers, here's what I found:
Video of Emei Daggers

(kinda fits for a new female character, not for Yuanji)
Awesome.... :OMG:

Equipping it on Shang Xiang lol.

I just hope the weapon won't be ridiculously oversized....

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Recently my friend and I have bought the PS3 game download dlc How do you help me please
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Fri May 24, 2013 9:03 am
Well the first bit I can use to refute your point is that the dagger axe and bombs do have a gimmick and they still stand out over weapons from DW7. The former is focused extensively on grapples while the latter is very much a placement type weapon that encourages reposition. You should use the Wolf Fang Cudgel if you want to illustrate a point as that's a weapon with no outstanding gimmick but is far more practical than most of the other DW7 weapons because it has a solid pool of attacks.

The problem with the dao is that it was thrown onto 5 characters and features an extensively generic move set. In fact the only interesting thing about it is the C2 has an aerial followup. The C1 is a wasted move like most from 7, while everything else is plain and uninteresting and shows neither character (Except the C5) nor style. Can't even argue that it's a grounded weapon when the only attacks it possesses that would be decent or plausible in reality is it's C1 and C3. The C2 would be easy to counter while the C5 is just fantastical as it's C6. The variable attack is also absolute garbage.

As for the other weapons you describe, the halberd is equally generic despite being built off the DW6 moveset which at least had some character to it. It's a far more decent weapon now here in 8 because of a modification to its C6. And it still possesses the variable attack that launches downed enemies back into the air. It's also not a pike.

Regarding the crescent halberd, that's a combination of having generally useful moves and the fact it's still very clearly a Lu Bu move set. It doesn't reek of uninteresting because it features typical Lu Bu traits such as one handed use.

However it's all a moot point as many weapons from DW7 are lousy in 8 because of unnecessary nerfs that harm them more than anything.
Well my citing of the Dagger Axe was more because when you think of grapples then you think of its all been done before... Gauntlets before it and Giant Axe after it. If was a moveset which focused on speedy rotations and creation of whirlwinds and the likes perhaps but the fact other weapons do grapples and better IMO i dont see that as being its gimmic if that makes sense. Still i concede the Cudgel mace would have been a better call.

Still whilst we are discussing this what is your view of the now arguably "legacy" weapons... do we drop 'em, do we tweak 'em or do we leave 'em be? Nerfs were beyond justifiable but something just doesnt sit right with me personally with the idea of dropping them - the dao comes up the most, people are just sick to the back teeth of it. Still i would leave it with Sun Quan... people want the blaze sword on him, i can easily see why yet my stance on the Dao means i dont want it dropped to make way for it nor do i want such an old moveset on a new face... not least when it would probably be tweaked to beyond recognition if that was the case.
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Hmm, I can see how the Leg Gauntlets may fit Guan Suo, but he is unique now so the possibilities of him getting it is very small.

But hey, that is why we have the weapon switch. Just equip both of the weapons into his arsenal.
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doesnt not show nunchaku from musou ex guan suo ,hinted leg gaunlet.
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Fri May 24, 2013 12:55 pm
doesnt not show nunchaku from musou ex guan suo ,hinted leg gaunlet.
You mean leg grieve thingies right?
I just cant imagine Suo with them, hes more used to his nunchakus

1. He's had them since his debut in DW7
2. How in hell is he supposed to defend his upper region when a weapon aka the leg grieves are on his legs...

I'm just as confused as my inner ego ya know :OMG:
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Ixbran
Fri May 24, 2013 4:45 am
Just because they aren't easy to use, doesn't mean they are crappy. Its actually nice to have a weapon that requires more thought and trial/error to make it effective.

A lot of people enjoy it, my self included. Really you shouldn't call it crappy, or useless, just because you dont enjoy using it.
This is a grasscutter game there's no trial and error anywhere in it :lol:

Also just because you don't like someone's opinion doesn't mean you can go around telling them what they can and can't say :whistle:

Personally I'd love for the nunchucks to go until they get tweaked. Same with all the Vanilla 7 movesets. The newer weapons are much more fun and useful.
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I'm wondering how it could be greaves however. Remember it has to work with the weapon switch system. So the so called greaves has to work on a huge Dong Zhuo as well as on a tiny Xiao Qiao. Their legs have completely different length.
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Thu May 23, 2013 2:07 pm
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Thu May 23, 2013 12:58 pm
I think this batch of costumes has the overall best ones, Other, and worst ones, Jin.

By the way, I'm surprised that no batch includes a salaryman. That's such a typical Japanese job figure, and would have been easily recognisable as well.
Because that's the most boring job one can get.
Oh~, many would like that kind of costume, believe me ;).
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garnix
Fri May 24, 2013 2:36 pm
I'm wondering how it could be greaves however. Remember it has to work with the weapon switch system. So the so called greaves has to work on a huge Dong Zhuo as well as on a tiny Xiao Qiao. Their legs have completely different length.
Well...i still have yet to find Xu Zhu or DOng ZHuo using wire gauntlets though..we can use that as a reference because one of the attack is a backflip kick...
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I love how you guys are arguing about the Nunchucks for Guan Suo vs the Flying Kick Greaves. This discussion would be better had for when we see what the moveset looks like. Plus no one considered idea of just revamping Guan Suo's Nunchucks while keeping them on the same character?
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Fri May 24, 2013 3:07 pm
garnix
Fri May 24, 2013 2:36 pm
I'm wondering how it could be greaves however. Remember it has to work with the weapon switch system. So the so called greaves has to work on a huge Dong Zhuo as well as on a tiny Xiao Qiao. Their legs have completely different length.
Well...i still have yet to find Xu Zhu or DOng ZHuo using wire gauntlets though..we can use that as a reference because one of the attack is a backflip kick...
Well, not just that, it's a matter of how they make the greaves look also. Just like they couldn't make Chunhua's weapons gloves like DW6, whatever these leg things are they hafta be one size fits all, y'know? They have to somehow fit big burly guys like Meng Huo, little girls like Xiao, and of course someone like Guan Suo too, so who knows how they're gonna look. All for that damned weapon switch system. :whistle:
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Or maybe what we think are greaves are not greaves at all.
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Yunglex313
Fri May 24, 2013 3:09 pm
Plus no one considered idea of just revamping Guan Suo's Nunchucks while keeping them on the same character?
This is good, freshen up the moveset without having to affect any other characters.

I agree about Sun Quan's Dao though, it is boring in the first place but especially boring after how it was exhausted to death in DW7. For goodness sake Koei give him a more interesting weapon, that really cool sword he had in DW6 wouldn't be a bad move. But if they can just take the sword away completely and give him a really unique special weapon that would be amazing. It's Sun Quan, let's be real here he does lack personality, he needs a great weapon to make up for it.
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garnix
Fri May 24, 2013 3:38 pm
Or maybe what we think are greaves are not greaves at all.
It might be..
WE need to wait until next one or two weeks...for the reveal...
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Saw the video for the "Emei daggers" frozenram put up earlier? They look SO cool, I'd love those to make it into DW, it would fit Wang Yuanji, SSX or maybe even the Qiaos perfectly. If they could make it more manly it could even be a good weapon for Sun Quan to replace that boring Dao.
Edited by Erminaz, Fri May 24, 2013 4:01 pm.
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DSkull
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Hmm...guess those ring things are pretty interesting, i'd prefer a rope dart or something more though. They're pretty similar anyway, just those are shorter. I couldn't really see them with any current character though. Yuanji definitely doesn't need a change, in my opinion, and I don't really see it fitting anyone in particular. Well, best to wait and see what Koei plan for it as well.
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I'm thinking that the BBlade joke skin is a match :shifty:

I'm kind'a disappointed with these joke skin's, bahhh maybe i'll pass the next 4 set's and just wait for the 6th weapons . Again, i'll pass these Job's costumes & joke skin's in my EU version .
Edited by Lazaroth, Fri May 24, 2013 5:17 pm.
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Fri May 24, 2013 3:56 pm
Saw the video for the "Emei daggers" frozenram put up earlier? They look SO cool, I'd love those to make it into DW, it would fit Wang Yuanji, SSX or maybe even the Qiaos perfectly. If they could make it more manly it could even be a good weapon for Sun Quan to replace that boring Dao.
I think Wang Yuanji could work, but that could never happen... since I'm actually okay with Throwing daggers. I think Blaze Sword fits Sun Quan really well.
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i think if a new character should get those Spinning Stabby thingies if male Chen Gong since it kinda fits with how i see him or someone like Xin Xianying, Wang Yuanji doesn't need a weapon change
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This DLC weapon business is really confusing me. Does anyone else feel like if Koei's intention is to give these weapons to future new characters it will somewhat hurt the appeal of the new characters. Sure a lot of people just like the idea of new additions, but I feel like other people will be turned off by a lack of new movesets.
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Ixbran
Fri May 24, 2013 4:45 am
Just because they aren't easy to use, doesn't mean they are crappy. Its actually nice to have a weapon that requires more thought and trial/error to make it effective.

A lot of people enjoy it, my self included. Really you shouldn't call it crappy, or useless, just because you dont enjoy using it.
*cough* Crossbow*cough*

I've always loved the crossbow for that reason. It doesn't require mindless hack n slashing to use it like most of the other weapons.

But I guess this is supposed to be a mindless hack n slashing game. -_-
Edited by Ryoreiki, Fri May 24, 2013 8:09 pm.
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Fri May 24, 2013 8:07 pm
Ixbran
Fri May 24, 2013 4:45 am
Just because they aren't easy to use, doesn't mean they are crappy. Its actually nice to have a weapon that requires more thought and trial/error to make it effective.

A lot of people enjoy it, my self included. Really you shouldn't call it crappy, or useless, just because you dont enjoy using it.
*cough* Crossbow*cough*

I've always loved the crossbow for that reason. It doesn't require mindless hack n slashing to use it like most of the other weapons.

But I guess this is supposed to be a mindless hack n slashing game. -_-
Yeah, the crossbow isn't mindless hack n' slash. It's mindless point n' shoot with no flair whatsoever. -w-

J/k, although not entirely, I hate that weapon and I wouldn't say there's thought behind it at all. You just...shoot and it hits everyone on screen in front you. But that doesn't make you any less entitled to liking it either.

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Fri May 24, 2013 6:46 pm
This DLC weapon business is really confusing me. Does anyone else feel like if Koei's intention is to give these weapons to future new characters it will somewhat hurt the appeal of the new characters. Sure a lot of people just like the idea of new additions, but I feel like other people will be turned off by a lack of new movesets.
Yea, I actually feel that way about them, unless the weapons are really good I wouldn't mind it or if they change them up like they did with the Short Ji for Han Dang. I for one hope they just keep them Empires exclusive if they aren't planning to give them to a character at all or they could just leave them in the game without an owner.

Though I am expecting DW9 or whatever to be different from its predecessors, not a reboot or anything, just a new engine or something so they may have to create new weapons or modify them to fit with the new engine. But who knows......
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