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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
Topic Started: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:21 am (358,659 Views)
Skode
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Yuan Shao Sword of Kings is missed by me as well... it always looked as awesome as his old outfits in the DW5 days. Wrecking ball would be nice and i guess for a third choice that serated sword Dong Zhuo used to use.

I know thats 2 swords but given how drastically different they are trying to make each sword in this game i see no reason they cant do the same for the two older ones... after all they look unique - just a moveset which will need tweaked. Heck they even made a moveset which looks to be best utilised in the air - thats how creative koei are getting now. One nice addition via DLC would be a moveset which really most benefits horseback... they are all just too lame in my opinion outside of the likes of Cai Wenji for this purpose.
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I would welcome side stories... Don't see why Koei hasn't considered this before now. They could even call it "The Lost Chapters" DLC series or something. Lol IDK... There are so many ways to structure this type of dlc, and I'm sure if they wanted too they could find a way to include it. You have to walk into this type of dlc with a plan though. Definitely see it as a way to expand "others."
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BryllTheRed
Tue Feb 5, 2013 6:29 am
I would welcome side stories... Don't see why Koei hasn't considered this before now. They could even call it "The Lost Chapters" DLC series or something. Lol IDK... There are so many ways to structure this type of dlc, and I'm sure if they wanted too they could find a way to include it. You have to walk into this type of dlc with a plan though. Definitely see it as a way to expand "others."
Lol "The Lost Chapters" DLC as you call it, could be a mini expansion to rake in some moolah, ppl would eat this up imo, I would definitely buy it. But you are right they definitely need a plan to go about it

As for the Sword of Kings and Dong Zhuos sword they kinda ditched those sword warlord move sets all together. Maybe they could bring one of them back and give it to Yuan Shu haha!
Edited by Lu Tzu, Tue Feb 5, 2013 6:53 am.
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Tue Feb 5, 2013 6:29 am
I would welcome side stories... Don't see why Koei hasn't considered this before now. They could even call it "The Lost Chapters" DLC series or something. Lol IDK... There are so many ways to structure this type of dlc, and I'm sure if they wanted too they could find a way to include it. You have to walk into this type of dlc with a plan though. Definitely see it as a way to expand "others."
Because this is the kind of thing that would help push XL sales... in fact having a story section for underfeatured characters was what DW7XL essentially was for all non-others characters plus of course 3 new ones. It goes back to my point about wanting XL to be a DLC title which instantly mixjoys with DW8 just like SW2XL was with SW2 because Koei isnt gonna do this kind of thing with DLC... you dont even get so much as a new cutscene with DLC - fair to say the resources they throw at DLC is far more minuscule than what they use with regards to disc title releases.
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Dynasty warriors 8: The Lost Chapters? I like that it rolls if the tongue, good job with the name it's really fitting! But, yeah I do see it taking away some prospects from XL. But, for all we know XL might solely focus on the new characters, leaving our poor Others, so DLC might work in either the main game or XL.

Just because all the characters are decloned I still don't think there should be less weapons as DLC, some of the cast still share movesets with the NPCs remember. Either new weapons for unique characters or new movesets for the NPCs.
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Lu Tzu
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I was pretty surprised to see a generic officer with the great sword, it does take some of the fun out of the weapons.
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Lu Tzu
Tue Feb 5, 2013 9:22 am
I was pretty surprised to see a generic officer with the great sword, it does take some of the fun out of the weapons.
How so? In theory the gameplay should be more varied with more enemies using more weapons... i always knew to watch out for the club users for than the others in DW7 so it should be nice to actually get caught off guard every now and then when some variety actually comes in the shape of something other than a unique charging a musuo attack for once.

Do we really want to go back generic officers with either a sword or a spear and nothing else. Heck the DW7 NPCs were even taking the piss out of this old approach.
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Just by being cloned but it doesn't really bother me. You are right it does add some variety rather then all the generics having a sword or spear.
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Yeah I think it's quite annoying that the generics are using more unique characters weapons, I'm all for there being a vast amount if different weapons for generics cause it just looks better. But when essentially it makes characters technically become a clone then it's annoying. I'd rather see the unique characters get a new weapon and moveset and the NPCs keep the old ones.

Maybe some DLC weapons will fill that void?
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Yeah, I agree. This is just cloning happening again, but what would be better is if maybe a dlc came out with new generic weapons like sword wielders could have a new weapon that resembles Liu Bei's DW5 moveset. Just an idea :shifty:
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OKay i just analyze the probability of DLC weapons.
Current weapons that is cloned with NPC are 7, those are iron fan(Xiaoqiao),Great Sword(Guan Ping),Club(Xu Zhu),Dao(Sun Quan),Throwing Knives(Yuanji),Spear(ma Chao), Shaman Staff(Zhang jiao).

If we look at DW7DLC weapons you'll notice that returning and new weapon are at the same number, considering that trishula originally going to be a dlc too.

The first batch of weapon dlc before XL:
Dagger Axe,Bombs,Short Pike, Mace, and Great Axe(+ Trishula, originally going to be a dlc)
3 returning & 3 new.
DLC weapon after XL:
Twin canes, Cao ren's shield, Boomerang,Sima shi's rapier,Iron boat, CIrcle blade
3 returning & 3 new.

So if we look at the pattern, we can predict that there will be 6 returning weapon and 6 new weapon.
Returning weapon in this case refer to their pre-dw7 weapon. The highest wanted one would be Xiaoqiao's twin fans, and the second one might be Guan Ping's old Zanbato. The third one can either be Sun quan's dw6/dw5 sword,Ma Chao's old dw5 moveset, and Xu Zhu's old dw5 moveset. I prefer the sun quan one. I feel that current spear and club moveset fits both of characters. So that left Ma Chao, Xu Zhu, Wang Yuanji and Zhang Jiao. Some of the people here likes the DW5 mvoeset for Xu Zhu, the same goes for Zhang jiao and Ma CHao, and they come under different name, but since the moveset closely resembles their DW5 moveset, they are considered as returning weapon.that means already a total of 6 returning weapon. That left Yuanji as the mysterious one, since she is new to the series, and throwing knives isnt in pre-dw7. if we wants to kept her using throwing knives but different moveset under different names, we might considered it as a new weapon. so that means already 6 returning and one new weapon. Then how about the remaining 5 new weapon? the worst that could happen there might still be a weapon shared with the NPCs, or these 5 new weapons will be given for the new characters. 3 characters get the new weapon dlc in XL, 1 one will get in Empires, and one more will get in DW9 or maybe strikeforce 3rd.
Or maybe...if you dislike the DW5 moveset and use completely new moveset for ZHang JIao,Ma Chao,Xu Zhu. that means we get 4 new weapon dlc. How about the rest of the 3 returning weapon. Let see here dw6 weapon that some really likes are Twin daggers, and the bladebow. and lets not forget Xingcai's fork and shield. Wait...a moment they...gan ning,yueying,xingcai are not cloned with generic. Who knows maybe in the next SS they are cloned, but of course we dont want that to happen right? Then who will get this returning weapon? Since most new characters now has a habit of stealing old weapon(Chunhua and Guan Suo), i dont mind if the new characters get it now. I always think Yu Jin as a thief-like characters so he can get twin daggers, since the bladebow is considered to be ZHuge liang's creation, his son ZHuge Zhan can gets it. I always pict ma yunlu as being a female warrior or valkyrie-like, she can take XIngcai's weapon if she wanted to. that left 2 new weapons if that is the case, these 2 new weapons can be left to koei imagination since one will be taken by the empires character(Assuming above characters that i said Zhan,Jin and Yunlu in XL)and one will be taken by one DW9 character or strikeforce 3rd, but if it is my imagination, one of it will be guan suo's nunchaku being cloned with NPCs and cheng pu's snake blade/kriss :P
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Ive never really thought about how many weapons even from DW5 when the movesets of characters were very similar, the sword rings bells. But there were quite a few variations of the sword; Yuan Shao's, Dong Zhuo's and Sun Quan's. Id like them all to return, with new movesets as DLC weapons, mainly because their designs were nice.

With DW7/8 we dont really have any thin swords if you get what I mean, like the same size as one of Liu Bei's swords. The Dao just became a huge sword in a sense, Id rather see some smaller swords about.
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Lu Tzu
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Guan Ping- Zanpato
Xiao Qiao- Twin fans
Sun Quan- Ancient/Wushu/Sword of Kings whatever your preference
Ma Chao- Dw5 Old moveset or make a new moveset "spear of justice"
Xu Zhu- Use DW5 old move set or give him the wrecking ball with a cow on it lol
Zhang Jiao- no idea
Wang Yuanji- Chinese throwing stars/ thats all i got
then their respective old weapons go to generics
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@ZeeZee As a Ma Chao fan myself.. I would much rather him get a new moveset. Maybe they can do with him what they did with Gan Ning, only have him keep the spear and it become Stallion's Spear. His old moveset was cool, but by today's standards it's a bit dated. I'm sure they can pay subtle homages in the set, to give it that nostalgic feel.

You make an interesting point about the past weapon dlc and I'll be looking out for how they handle this going forward.

Anyway I'm sure we're all excited about tonight.. Can't wait to see who we get!

@Lu Tzu
I've been thinking... What if they gave Yuanji an updated version of the blade bow? Would it not fit her in Jin?

Zhang Jiao needs a Staff and Sword :ph43r: Or a Spell Book and Staff
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Tue Feb 5, 2013 10:45 pm
Anyway I'm sure we're all excited about tonight.. Can't wait to see who we get!

@Lu Tzu
I've been thinking... What if they gave Yuanji an updated version of the blade bow? Would it not fit her in Jin?

Zhang Jiao needs a Staff and Sword :ph43r: Or a Spell Book and Staff
Forgot about the bladebow, thats a good idea...it was a pretty cool moveset. Zhang Jiao used to have a sword in DW2 so that might work, I donno if ppl real care about him being cloned tbh lol. They could just make the generic staff a different moveset.

Lol and I think we will see ma chao tonight. Im excited too!
Edited by Lu Tzu, Tue Feb 5, 2013 11:03 pm.
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I'm hyped up for Ma Chao, too. Even he's keeping his weapon, heck, I wouldn't mind seeing change moveset. Some of the charged attack was like "I got him!... Wait, what, I miss??"
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Lu Tzu
Tue Feb 5, 2013 11:02 pm
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Tue Feb 5, 2013 10:45 pm
Anyway I'm sure we're all excited about tonight.. Can't wait to see who we get!

@Lu Tzu
I've been thinking... What if they gave Yuanji an updated version of the blade bow? Would it not fit her in Jin?

Zhang Jiao needs a Staff and Sword :ph43r: Or a Spell Book and Staff
Forgot about the bladebow, thats a good idea...it was a pretty cool moveset. Zhang Jiao used to have a sword in DW2 so that might work, I donno if ppl real care about him being cloned tbh lol. They could just make the generic staff a different moveset.

Lol and I think we will see ma chao tonight. Im excited too!
Lol true.. It's his personality that draws me to him anyway. Loved his EX attack, especially if I was able to Juggle with it. I don't really mind Zhang Jiao the way he is. I haven't seen Generics with that weapon anyway. Unless I missed something?

Sun Bai Hu Yeah I think he'll keep the spear for now... Still excited to see him though. They've held him all this time... Hopefully its for something special, be it design wise or whatever.
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I havent either i was goin off of ZeeZeeGoo's word. Love his character as well, but his awakening is pretty sweet. Maybe Ma Chao is getting a new moveset, so then we wouldnt have to worry abot his DLC weapon. lol. I hope his design is badass, hes probably my favorite shu character as well with Jiang Wei(hope he says something besides benevolence this time around and isnt a cry baby)
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Just thought of some DLC weapon ideas, a lot of them actually just come from putting the current weapons together and having them dual wielded, quite simple really...

examples -

Fan & Spear
Fan & Sword
Sword & Spear

You can probably see where Im going with this, even though its not really out of the box, but at the same time it is. So far in DW games, we have never had dual wielded weapons that are different from each other (Twin swords, twin daggers & twin fans) So I would like to see a bit different dual weapons.
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I was surfing around the DW online site and found these weapons. They had a few CAW original weapons but most have been added like the mace (pang de) and staff (Zhou Yu) but here are the other ones they haven't added yet that we could see as DLC...tell me what you guys think...heres the links.
Horned Blade
http://dwo.wikia.com/wiki/Horned_Blade
Battle Shield
http://dwo.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_Shield
Punctures
http://yuris.wikia.com/wiki/Punctures
Snake Blade
http://yuris.wikia.com/wiki/Snake_Sword
Manifer
http://yuris.wikia.com/wiki/Manifer
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@Averryy cool idea, it could work.

Lu Tzu Heck yeah! Bring on all of that! Especially that horned blade! lol... Punctures and Manifer would also be cool. The Snake Sword would be perfect for Cheng Pu if they decide not to go with a Serpent Spear for him. Thats when and if he comes.
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Great find, the horned blade and the battle shield are my favourites out of them, I forgot there were some different weapons on DWO. Would be easy enough for Koei to look at those weapons and just plop them in as DLC, upgraded and altered etc.

Nice find again!
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Lu Tzu: Don't like. Not at all. :nope:

Just kidding. :P

I really like the idea, but I don't get why Koei want to use those weapon in the game. These can fit to new characters or current rosters. It just wants me to... you know what.
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Thanks guys! I like all of them as well, not too sure about what the manifer or what it does. The battle shield and punctures are probably my favorites. BryllTheRed we most have been on the same wave length about the snake blade, Cheng Pu was the first to come to mind. The horned blade is also pretty sweet, it has a great look to it. I wonder who they could get to use that battle shield though lol its just sick

@Sun Bai i donno if Koei wants to use them or not. Since they added the fanged club(mace pang de) and staff (Zhou Yu) (NOTE: both of these weapons were unique at the time and had no owner when DWO came out) to the games, its not impossible to believe that they wont add them. But when it comes down to it I'm Just throwing in ideas haha.
Edited by Lu Tzu, Wed Feb 6, 2013 1:45 am.
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Hmmm....

Puntures= Wang Yuanji(If not the Blade Bow)*Would only have to change 1st Musou
Battle Shields= Xu Zhu(If not Wrecking ball)*No Major changes, actually fits GOD smack EX lol. **Personally think Wrecking ball is a better fit for big boy.
Horned Blade= Sun Quan(kinda puts me in the mind of the WO3 sword)
Manifer= ??? Cao Zhang???? :o All these years and we thought he beat down beast with his "bare hands" lol
Snake Sword= Cheng Pu

*****WAIT wasn't there an exclusive whip on DWO??
We need a male whip user that fights like a Belmont. O.o


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