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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
Topic Started: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:21 am (358,518 Views)
Erminaz
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Well for Ling Tong the sanjiegun is much better anyhoo. I don't even understand why Koei re-cloned him in DW7 by ditching the sanjiegun and making him share with Guan Suo. It just seems strange how so many characters who were unique in DW6/Special became clones when all they had to do was tweak the moveset like they did for Zhou Yu's staff and Diaochan's whip. Bare laziness...

Anyways any news on the DW6 costumes? Are they free this time?
Edited by Erminaz, Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:06 am.
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Chen Gong
Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:39 am
The look of the weapon is the main problem. However Ling Tong didn't use his weapon in any of his Musou's either and nobody cared, it's just that kansakUMA has pushed the idea so much it's actually been considered by some of you. I just think instead of being the fast one of his family before yet still using a weapon instead not he just looks like a long legged pixie jerk.
Okay but who do you suggest?
HU fen, wen hu?
Any MALES whose design is good enough..is fine by me if they get the boots instead of suo?
Edited by Ryō Genken, Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:14 am.
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:05 am
Anyways any news on the DW6 costumes? Are they free this time?
They cost like 300 yen now iirc.

It sucks but what can you do. It would have been nice if Koei made the added price tag worth it with 'DW6' costumes for the DW7 and 8 newbies though.
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Phoenician_Prodigy
Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:05 am
Anyways any news on the DW6 costumes? Are they free this time?
They're not free this time. Which is odd, since they were for DW7. And the "they've to redo the design" excuse is BS. They did the same for DW7, so they should have been free again. And anyway, most of them are horrible. Xiaoqiao seems fat with her DW6 costume, which is a shame, because this is my favorite of hers.
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:11 am
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:05 am
Anyways any news on the DW6 costumes? Are they free this time?
They cost like 300 yen now iirc.

It sucks but what can you do. It would have been nice if Koei made the added price tag worth it with 'DW6' costumes for the DW7 and 8 newbies though.
*tuts* :hmph: That really sucks

Well it is unlikely, but I guess if enough people don't buy it out of the principle that we've paid for them twice already they might take the hint and drop the price. It won't happen, but we can hope. To be honest I'm very happy with the DW8 costumes though so I have no intention of paying money for any costume packs this time around. DW7 defaults were just horrendous so buying the costume packs felt more necessary then.

@Wang Yue - They weren't free in the west in DW7 unfortunately :( And I know, I really don't like how they've altered some of the older costumes. I get that they will look different in HD, but somethings they didn't need to change. I hate how in almost every one of Diaochan's older costumes they split her skirts to make them move more, it might sound small but it ruined some of them.
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Yo wang yue...whaddya think of the new greaves?
IS it good?
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:08 am
Okay but who do you suggest?
HU fen, wen hu?
Anyone whose design is good enough..is fine by me if they get the boots instead of suo?
I'm fine with them being CAW exclusive as of now. However I've no issue with Guan Suo receiving a moveset influence by this but we've just kinda jumped on the closest thing because it's on his feet despite the design being atrocious, out of all the movesets we've received it's the one to least suit the user. I think Hu Fen and Wen Hu would be good with this moveset, I can see Wen Hu being alongside his brother fighting like this. He Fen I always imagined being a big guy so I can see it on him too.
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:18 am
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:08 am
Okay but who do you suggest?
HU fen, wen hu?
Anyone whose design is good enough..is fine by me if they get the boots instead of suo?
I'm fine with them being CAW exclusive as of now. However I've no issue with Guan Suo receiving a moveset influence by this but we've just kinda jumped on the closest thing because it's on his feet despite the design being atrocious, out of all the movesets we've received it's the one to least suit the user. I think Hu Fen and Wen Hu would be good with this moveset, I can see Wen Hu being alongside his brother fighting like this. He Fen I always imagined being a big guy so I can see it on him too.
I remember you diss me about Lu Kang getting this,why?
I personally feels because of him being the grandson of sun ce, he gets martial arts capabilities from Sun Ce THROUGH his mother..maybe you have different design for him?
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So really all the costumes from DW-6 outfits are not free? And my predictions are that they will throw in DW7 outfits in along with some modes like a better Conquest Mode.
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KansakUMA
Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:21 am
I remember you diss me about Lu Kang getting this,why?
I personally feels because of him being the grandson of sun ce, he gets martial arts capabilities from Sun Ce THROUGH his mother..maybe you have different design for him?
Because Lu Kang's gonna be prettier than Lu Xun, and imagine Lu Xun with those on his feet as it is.... not working is it. Maybe they should just gender-bend Lu Lingqi and make her a him, make Yuan Shu have a daughter and not a son and give them to him :rolleyes: .

Weirdly enough, that makes more sense.
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:25 am
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:21 am
I remember you diss me about Lu Kang getting this,why?
I personally feels because of him being the grandson of sun ce, he gets martial arts capabilities from Sun Ce THROUGH his mother..maybe you have different design for him?
Because Lu Kang's gonna be prettier than Lu Xun, and imagine Lu Xun with those on his feet as it is.... not working is it. Maybe they should just gender-bend Lu Lingqi and make her a him, make Yuan Shu have a daughter and not a son and give them to him :rolleyes: .

Weirdly enough, that makes more sense.
Nah give lingqi that wheel halberd from DW6..
How about Cao Zhang he can defeats a tiger with a barehand and wrestling, IIRC
INstead of wrestling, he uses martial arts
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:25 am
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:21 am
I remember you diss me about Lu Kang getting this,why?
I personally feels because of him being the grandson of sun ce, he gets martial arts capabilities from Sun Ce THROUGH his mother..maybe you have different design for him?
Because Lu Kang's gonna be prettier than Lu Xun, and imagine Lu Xun with those on his feet as it is.... not working is it. Maybe they should just gender-bend Lu Lingqi and make her a him, make Yuan Shu have a daughter and not a son and give them to him :rolleyes: .

Weirdly enough, that makes more sense.
A Daughter for Yuan Shu? :innocent: But that would totally mess up Xiapi. Lu Bu would be sending his daughter to marry another girl! :2up:

I have to admit that is one the best ideas you have ever come up with. :goodpost:

OnTopic: The Metal Greaves actually suit Guan Suo very well. Give Ling Tong back his DW6 weapon and toss the Nunchuks to a new character add maybe.
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:25 am
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:21 am
I remember you diss me about Lu Kang getting this,why?
I personally feels because of him being the grandson of sun ce, he gets martial arts capabilities from Sun Ce THROUGH his mother..maybe you have different design for him?
Because Lu Kang's gonna be prettier than Lu Xun, and imagine Lu Xun with those on his feet as it is.... not working is it. Maybe they should just gender-bend Lu Lingqi and make him a boy, make Yuan Shu have a daughter and not a son and give them to him :rolleyes: .

Weirdly enough, that makes more sense.
I hope not i'm looking for his appearance into being one of his older looks back in DW4 when he looks more mature instead of a pretty boy. I like the martial arts idea on him but I will like him using this while he does his martial arts moves

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I hate that word, martial arts, the moveset is basically thudding his feet around there's nothing technical about it really. I just can't see somebody who's a much younger Guan Yu using these, instead I see a rough and ready bigger man. I suppose Cao Zhang could work, like just about but still I'd rather him just never make the series so, blah.

@Sakura
Well, I also meant make Lu Lingqi a boy as well but some girl on girl would be OK. We have closet-case Zhuge Dan so why not a lesbian :rolleyes: .
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:30 am
I hate that word, martial arts, the moveset is basically thudding his feet around there's nothing technical about it really. I just can't see somebody who's a much younger Guan Yu using these, instead I see a rough and ready bigger man. I suppose Cao Zhang could work, like just about but still I'd rather him just never make the series so, blah.

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Well, I also meant make Lu Lingqi a boy as well but some girl on girl would be OK. We have closet-case Zhuge Dan so why not a lesbian :rolleyes: .
Lu Bu's daughter is an inevitable female add.

But the rest makes more sense.

Besides Lu Bu's "son" may have a thing for Diaochan then. Would mess up the whole Lu Bu/Diaochan love story imo.

OnTopic: The kick moveset would mirror Naotora Ii's. She uses her feet more. So I don't see the problem.
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True that, not that I mind at all, more bulk to Lu Bu's forces.

Although I'm not a Naotora fan at all, her moveset is a lot nicer than this. It just feels so thuddy, horrid.

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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:40 am
True that, not that I mind at all, more bulk to Lu Bu's forces.

Although I'm not a Naotora fan at all, her moveset is a lot nicer than this. It just feels so thuddy, horrid.

Credits to tetsuo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm-J3PXEusU

He says that this moveset is broken..
I can see why you say that...it's because, you cant just directly chain the s-string or combo if you didnt hit the enemy first right...and it looks like there's a lot of lag right?
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You know what, I'm gonna download this weapon now, give a better opinion. Don't know why I didn't do this at first :wacko: .
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:42 am
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:40 am
True that, not that I mind at all, more bulk to Lu Bu's forces.

Although I'm not a Naotora fan at all, her moveset is a lot nicer than this. It just feels so thuddy, horrid.

Credits to tetsuo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm-J3PXEusU

He says that this moveset is broken..
I can see why you say that...it's because, you cant just directly chain the s-string or combo if you didnt hit the enemy first right...and it looks like there's a lot of lag right?
The Greaves actually suit him very well. Since he focuses on using his legs quite a bit. I am actually waiting when that DLC comes overseas so I can give to him.
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Why replace what's not broken? The Nunchucks were altered to fit Guan Suo exclusively, so why waste all that for an imperfected DLC moveset? Because his Musou uses kicks? Because it fits? It also looks like it could fit any number of characters. Ling Tong, Deng Ai. , Wei Yan, etc. are all characters it fits as well, but apparently the greaves are automatically relegated to Guan Suo.

I rather the greaves go to someone new than hok an old moveset that they'll probably have to alter AGAIN for the third time to fit a new character. Because you know a new DLC will probably show up--like gauntlets or something--and because said used character uses his fists in his musou or something people will want the new DLC weapon to go to him/her and once again the Nunchucks will be in limbo.

Nunchucks are a good moveset with who they are with. Why risk ruining it by changing who it was perfected for?
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:58 am
Why replace what's not broken? The Nunchucks were altered to fit Guan Suo exclusively, so why waste all that for an imperfected DLC moveset?
They were altered? How?

No1curr about the 1 liner.
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Tbh though the greaves probably wouldn't go to a new character anyway. Imagine the anti-climax of a brand new character who uses a weapon we've already used to death...

But yes I do agree there are many characters the greaves work well with. There are also some characters who are in far more desperate need of having their weapon updated than Guan Suo. Namely, Sun Quan, although I don't think the greaves would suit him.
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:58 am
Because you know a new DLC will probably show up--like gauntlets or something--and because said used character uses his fists in his musou or something people will want the new DLC weapon to go to him/her and once again the Nunchucks will be in limbo.
there already is a character that uses gauntlets in the DW series.

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Right, I'm gonna be honest, I stand slightly corrected which is something I know you're all not kinda used to but the greaves aren't too awful on him. The basic attack string suits motions that can be easily depicted by Guan Suo however I struggle to see the charge attacks suiting Suo's persona. C5 is horrible, it's a killer for somebody who had the legs for it and his C3, really, neck snapping Suo I cannot see. The moveset, if ever given to Suo is understandable but it's not the most unique or exciting weapon we've had which can be down to opinion of course. The weapon loses the adventurous style Suo has had until now, the way in which you can depict Suo training with the Nunchaku with the occasional kick which is understandable for a user of Nunchaku instead of fly kicking everywhere. If there was one word I could give the moveset if it was on Suo, is childish. It's much more suited to a cocky fighter with strength to back it up, Suo has always been shown as a guy who has had a tough time looking to do his father proud, not this.
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:06 am
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:58 am
Why replace what's not broken? The Nunchucks were altered to fit Guan Suo exclusively, so why waste all that for an imperfected DLC moveset?
They were altered? How?

No1curr about the 1 liner.
If by altered he means nerf, then yes they have been altered.

The only real alteration this crappy weapon had was in Orochi and even then that was for Ling Tong. And Ling Tong's version of the nunchuk moveset is far more fun and useful than the current version we have now.
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