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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
Topic Started: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:21 am (358,506 Views)
FKA
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:14 pm
But poor wil ole XiaoQiao can't keep her single fan! The stupid , glorious, and magnificent Qiao horde will continue to throw their tantrums! I mean uh.......

:rolleyes:

For the record I don't care about Sun Quan being fakecloned, but I do care about how every ruler is unique (even Yuan Shao!), but his filthy smegging "dies in stage 1" daddy gets a cool weapon and the Emperor of Wu gets the most basic moveset in the game when it should have been the other way around. Screw you Sun Jian, go get crushed by some more boulders and arrows.



TLDR I wouldn't give a crap if Sun Jian had the basic dao because he's a useless character. :whistle: :hmmm:
Lol.

Just switch their ex weapons lol. Ex attacks don't really mean much when most of them are incredibly basic.

I'd rather Quan have Sima Zhao's weapon though. He can get the dao for all I care lololol.



I think Koei needs to work on this weapon switch system. Even though they advertised it as such so that there aren't any 'owners' anymore, the majority of the fanbase (and even the producers themselves) still makes this association. Imo, Ex attacks either need to gtfo or become a universal attack for anyone who has a four star compatibility with them.

Musou attacks should also be tied to the weapons, rather than the character, so people can stop bitching about the dlc weapons and their possible 'owners'.

For the characters themselves, Koei needs to establish some special moves for them that can be used regardless of the weapon equipped, so that person would use a certain weapon differently from another character.

This should belong in the Ideas thread but idgaf.
Edited by FKA, Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:23 pm.
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:22 pm
necrosis
Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:14 pm
But poor wil ole XiaoQiao can't keep her single fan! The stupid , glorious, and magnificent Qiao horde will continue to throw their tantrums! I mean uh.......

:rolleyes:

For the record I don't care about Sun Quan being fakecloned, but I do care about how every ruler is unique (even Yuan Shao!), but his filthy smegging "dies in stage 1" daddy gets a cool weapon and the Emperor of Wu gets the most basic moveset in the game when it should have been the other way around. Screw you Sun Jian, go get crushed by some more boulders and arrows.



TLDR I wouldn't give a crap if Sun Jian had the basic dao because he's a useless character. :whistle: :hmmm:
Lol.

Just switch their ex weapons lol. Ex attacks don't really mean much when most of them are incredibly basic.

I'd rather Quan have Sima Zhao's weapon though. He can get the dao for all I care lololol.



I think Koei needs to work on this weapon switch system. Even though they advertised it as such so that there aren't any 'owners' anymore, the majority of the fanbase (and even the producers themselves) still makes this association. Imo, Ex attacks either need to gtfo or become a universal attack for anyone who has a four star compatibility with them.

Musou attacks should also be tied to the weapons, rather than the character, so people can stop bitching about the dlc weapons and their possible 'owners'.

For the characters themselves, Koei needs to establish some special moves for them that can be used regardless of the weapon equipped, so that person would use a certain weapon differently from another character.

This should belong in the Ideas thread but idgaf.
Just because people are *****ing about something doesn't mean it's something that needs to be fixed. They can go to hell for I care.

And I'm not even going comment on necrosis's blatant unwarranted hate of Sun Jian.
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this is why Strikeforce weapon system is way better..
they should lock each character's first weapon as their EX, with second weapon being free.
Then make "generic" musou for each weapon lololol
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:17 pm
Just because people are *****ing about something doesn't mean it's something that needs to be fixed. They can go to hell for I care.

And I'm not even going comment on necrosis's blatant unwarranted hate of Sun Jian.
The thing is, the weapon switch system as it currently stands is extremely basic and does need some tweaking.

Koei tried to separate the weapon and character into two separate entities, and if they're ever going to accomplish that goal then they need to work on this feature.

Either that or takes some *cough*a tonne of*cough* cues from the Strikeforce series.

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Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:48 am
How about.... Yuanji just keep the daggers and none of the generics use them in DW9? Why do we need to take away her weapon? Its not like in the case of Sun Quan and now Xiao Qiao, who they made the old weapon a DLC weapon.
How about they both keep the weapons? We don't even use generics so why people are complaining about certain characters still being "cloned" escapes me.

I mean if anything I want generics use all 77 weapon types to tone down the monotony.
But poor wil ole XiaoQiao can't keep her single fan! The stupid , glorious, and magnificent Qiao horde will continue to throw their tantrums! I mean uh.......

:rolleyes:

For the record I don't care about Sun Quan being fakecloned, but I do care about how every ruler is unique (even Yuan Shao!), but his filthy smegging "dies in stage 1" daddy gets a cool weapon and the Emperor of Wu gets the most basic moveset in the game when it should have been the other way around. Screw you Sun Jian, go get crushed by some more boulders and arrows.



TLDR I wouldn't give a crap if Sun Jian had the basic dao because he's a useless character. :whistle: :hmmm:
I wish i could chop Someone head :sly: Now

Horde If its A group of fan
Then Seriously so what if we throw tantrum
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:40 pm
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:56 am
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:48 am
How about.... Yuanji just keep the daggers and none of the generics use them in DW9? Why do we need to take away her weapon? Its not like in the case of Sun Quan and now Xiao Qiao, who they made the old weapon a DLC weapon.
How about they both keep the weapons? We don't even use generics so why people are complaining about certain characters still being "cloned" escapes me.

I mean if anything I want generics use all 77 weapon types to tone down the monotony.
But poor wil ole XiaoQiao can't keep her single fan! The stupid , glorious, and magnificent Qiao horde will continue to throw their tantrums! I mean uh.......

:rolleyes:

For the record I don't care about Sun Quan being fakecloned, but I do care about how every ruler is unique (even Yuan Shao!), but his filthy smegging "dies in stage 1" daddy gets a cool weapon and the Emperor of Wu gets the most basic moveset in the game when it should have been the other way around. Screw you Sun Jian, go get crushed by some more boulders and arrows.



TLDR I wouldn't give a crap if Sun Jian had the basic dao because he's a useless character. :whistle: :hmmm:
I wish i could chop Someone head :sly: Now

Horde If its A group of fan
Then Seriously so what if we throw tantrum
Some of said concerns don't really make sense. It's not really a problem, you just don't like that it's there. This is really what certain characters sharing weapons with generics is. There isn't really anything wrong with that, it just bothers some people.
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Releaae date of Dw8 Changed

19 July(EU), 12July(NA), 18 July (Fr)
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The Emei Piercers and their moveset don't seem particularly feminine to me.

As for the Bladed Bow, I've never particularly cared about it. Anyway, it's good to have one more weapon. Just keep Yueying with her current (and original) one.
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:12 pm
The Emei Piercers and their moveset don't seem particularly feminine to me.

As for the Bladed Bow, I've never particularly cared about it. Anyway, it's good to have one more weapon. Just keep Yueying with her current (and original) one.
They do to me. The movements seem more graceful, and the run and animation and idle stance are feminine by what I recognize as feminine.
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everyone got decloned in number 8 which obv was koeis plan it seems then unnecessary to go changing people again i mean probs in dw9 or 10 people wil have more ex attacks anyways making them more unique

and 2bh probs the only reason as to why probably the dlc weapon in dw7 era went to existing characters was simply bcoz they needed too as so many clones i dont think it wil b a trend that continues maybe maybe not

i dont think it loses the excitement as the weapons wil be slightly changed anyways like short ji with han dang
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now i'm wondering when will the Weapon Gallery be updated? I want to see the 6th skin weapons really soon and the Emei Daggers all skins...

EDIT 2: It seems it's not yet updated.
(yes it's still not :3)
Edited by frozenram, Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:10 pm.
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The Emei Piercers and their moveset don't seem particularly feminine to me.

As for the Bladed Bow, I've never particularly cared about it. Anyway, it's good to have one more weapon. Just keep Yueying with her current (and original) one.
They do to me. The movements seem more graceful, and the run and animation and idle stance are feminine by what I recognize as feminine.
The run looks totally unisex to me. Movements seem more agile than graceful. Or, if we want to call them graceful, they fall into the category of Zhou Yu's pre-DW6 sword's, not especially feminine (and also less graceful than Zhou Yu's).
A couple of moves are even quite rough.

Let's say it's a matter of personal opinion as always, then.
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:48 pm
now i'm wondering when will the Weapon Gallery be updated? I want to see the 6th skin weapons really soon and the Emei Daggers all skins...
The Emei'ci skin's and scale look almost the same in all the 5 weapons.
Only the 5th got a colorful green looking, rather than iron looking piercer's.
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:56 am
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How about.... Yuanji just keep the daggers and none of the generics use them in DW9? Why do we need to take away her weapon? Its not like in the case of Sun Quan and now Xiao Qiao, who they made the old weapon a DLC weapon.
How about they both keep the weapons? We don't even use generics so why people are complaining about certain characters still being "cloned" escapes me.

I mean if anything I want generics use all 77 weapon types to tone down the monotony.
But poor wil ole XiaoQiao can't keep her single fan! The stupid , glorious, and magnificent Qiao horde will continue to throw their tantrums! I mean uh.......

:rolleyes:

For the record I don't care about Sun Quan being fakecloned, but I do care about how every ruler is unique (even Yuan Shao!), but his filthy smegging "dies in stage 1" daddy gets a cool weapon and the Emperor of Wu gets the most basic moveset in the game when it should have been the other way around. Screw you Sun Jian, go get crushed by some more boulders and arrows.



TLDR I wouldn't give a crap if Sun Jian had the basic dao because he's a useless character. :whistle: :hmmm:
I wish i could chop Someone head :sly: Now

Horde If its A group of fan
Then Seriously so what if we throw tantrum
Some of said concerns don't really make sense. It's not really a problem, you just don't like that it's there. This is really what certain characters sharing weapons with generics is. There isn't really anything wrong with that, it just bothers some people.
But if people is bothered, then obviously there's a problem.

Wow, the Emei Piercers are really awesome. It does fit Wang Yi very much, very brutal like her. And it does look slightly feminine to me, though it wouldn't be too awkward if a male character uses it (unless it's Dong Zhuo :XD ).
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Twin fans can go back to xiao
Single fan remake it to fit chen gong or bladed crossbow underneath the sleeves and what not OR
give bladed crossbow to lian shi
blaze blade to sun quan
emei pierces to yunaji
nunchaku or double nunchaku to Yu Jin to finish the elite generals
make that stallion spear for the splendid Ma Chao
i think the hand arbelest should go to someone in jin...
give dian weis ball and chain to xu zhu
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ok... first thing, imagine Yuanji using emei daggers on all of her musous(which involves throwing knives and check if it fits)

what i really like for DLC weapon suited for Wang Yuanji is a throwing weapon (like Throwing Swords, and i'm not talking about Wen Yang's Javelin)
Cause the didnt change the musous for a weapon switch before... right... but lets look at gan ning, cao ren, zhu rong, pang de...
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For the record I don't care about Sun Quan being fakecloned, but I do care about how every ruler is unique (even Yuan Shao!), but his filthy smegging "dies in stage 1" daddy gets a cool weapon and the Emperor of Wu gets the most basic moveset in the game when it should have been the other way around. Screw you Sun Jian, go get crushed by some more boulders and arrows.



TLDR I wouldn't give a crap if Sun Jian had the basic dao because he's a useless character. :whistle: :hmmm:
Well if any one ruler is to get the basic Dao then it has to be Quan for me... Sun Jian was known as a beast in battle, even if Guan Yu nicks all his attributed kills from the novel - badass sword for someone dubbed the Tiger of Jiandong. Cao Cao was solid in battle, Lui Bei was always in the thick of it too.

Sun Quan was the one known to be more respected for his ability to rule from the back than actually kick ass in the battlefront... him having some kick ass sword like the 9 Rings Sword his old man got would make less sense to me personally. Still i like Jian... the games dont do him enough justice, damned Shu bias that Koei has :shifty:
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:04 am
Wont the DLC be boring You Know How it looks and How it moveset be Nd I think uts better for Unique Character, Unless it does not have Unique Weapon like The Emei Peirce
There's a reason KOEI is relesing DLC weapons first before they are given to characters as EX weapons.

My bet is that it's easier for them to create weapons and movesets than creating characters. There's much more that you need (VA, Personality, Design, Role in story mode, additional attacks, etc.) and by VA that probably means more money to spend.
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For the record I don't care about Sun Quan being fakecloned, but I do care about how every ruler is unique (even Yuan Shao!), but his filthy smegging "dies in stage 1" daddy gets a cool weapon and the Emperor of Wu gets the most basic moveset in the game when it should have been the other way around. Screw you Sun Jian, go get crushed by some more boulders and arrows.



TLDR I wouldn't give a crap if Sun Jian had the basic dao because he's a useless character. :whistle: :hmmm:
Well if any one ruler is to get the basic Dao then it has to be Quan for me... Sun Jian was known as a beast in battle, even if Guan Yu nicks all his attributed kills from the novel - badass sword for someone dubbed the Tiger of Jiandong. Cao Cao was solid in battle, Lui Bei was always in the thick of it too.

Sun Quan was the one known to be more respected for his ability to rule from the back than actually kick ass in the battlefront... him having some kick ass sword like the 9 Rings Sword his old man got would make less sense to me personally. Still i like Jian... the games dont do him enough justice, damned Shu bias that Koei has :shifty:
This, Sun Quan isn't a Warrior, he states it himself in DW8, he's a Ruler. That's why the Flint Sword being given to him doesn't really sit with me. He needs something a little more traditional.
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Well, i'd agree that quan deserving a badass sword like the 9 ringed one over Jian, would be a load of crock when you line up their achievements. However, that shouldn't keep Quan from getting a cool weapon that really does fit him, like the blaze blade. It has all those spinny moves Quan loves to use, fire for Wu, and it has those little poses where he plants the sword into the ground and fire erupts behind him. Every leader has to have a cool pose. -w-
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:39 pm
Well, i'd agree that quan deserving a badass sword like the 9 ringed one over Jian, would be a load of crock when you line up their achievements. However, that shouldn't keep Quan from getting a cool weapon that really does fit him, like the blaze blade. It has all those spinny moves Quan loves to use, fire for Wu, and it has those little poses where he plants the sword into the ground and fire erupts behind him. Every leader has to have a cool pose. -w-
Yeah but that's not really Quan's kind of cool. It's a warrior's kind of cool. Quan's needs a Ruler's kind of cool, something that isn't super acrobatic, but is still cool.
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i do agree that the dao best suits quan n jian was a talented man n fearsome warrior quan is more laid back
the blaze sword does look alittle too in ya face for quan personally but i mean with the weapon switch u cud just give him it anyway as a secondary weapon
i do agree also that the characters ex weapon should be locked in first slot n can choose any secondary weapon
im excited to see wat other dlc weapons come next
an idea with ex weapons is tht u shud have 2 ex attacks with them n maybe tht u can get an extra charge attack so say sun jian can do a c7 attack with the nine ring dao n no1 else can
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Hmm...well you say rulers kinda of cool, But Cao Cao's out there making shadow clones, while Liu Bei is slicing and dicing and throwin' thunder all around. It kinda IS ruler cool too. xD Nah I do know what you mean, but I think koei wants all the rulers to have interesting weapons, we'll just wait and see.
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:18 pm
Hmm...well you say rulers kinda of cool, But Cao Cao's out there making shadow clones, while Liu Bei is slicing and dicing and throwin' thunder all around. It kinda IS ruler cool too. xD Nah I do know what you mean, but I think koei wants all the rulers to have interesting weapons, we'll just wait and see.
Well Liu Bei's only lightning throwing are is his EX and Musou soooooo....otherwise the twin swords are kind of basic, except for the C3. It's still good, but not really stylish.
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Well Liu Bei was not exactly known for having the fanciest or the strongest fighting skills ever. The thing that made him feared by the other rulers was his friendship with Zhang Fei and Guan Yu. So it makes sense if Liu Beis fighting skills were 'average' compared to the other rulers.
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You forgot the slicin n' dicin part. Yeah, I guess compared to other weapons that blow out loads of sparkles with every hit, Liu Bei's might seem kinda basic. But it's excellent swordmanship nonetheless. Where the Dao is a basic slash here and there, the twins swords become a whirling dervish of destruction. Also I just like the grapple C6. And like you said, it's in the EX and musou where he throws lighting, and those are arguably the most, well pretty much the only unique personifications that characters get. Sun quan turns into a whirling fire tornado and stabs a guy to make 'em explode, but he's not flashy enough for the blaze blade? Which is just an ordinary sword really. The only thing is the spinning motions which again Quan does all the time in his musous, and of course fire, which is also used in 'em. So I still think it's a perfect fit for the Quan as we know him. I dunno if I am explaining it all too well but i've only got one hand to type with here, It's a bit of a pain. xD
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