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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
Topic Started: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:21 am (358,497 Views)
bluebolting
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KOEI could do something different and *LE GASP* not give them to anyone and simply make EX moves for the weapons. I'm all for bringing new weapons into the series, with or without a new user.
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Skull Knight
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I hope they don't take away Yueying's scythe for that silly armbow again. It fits her too nicely and she only just got it back!
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Ixbran
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while the bladebow does fit Yueyings inventive persona, her dagger axe also fits her martial artist aspect of her personality as well.

So i say give the blade bow to someone who is close to her in future games ... is it ever mentioned if Zhuge Liang and Yueying ever had any children? I could imagine that if they had kids, Yueying would invent something like the blade bow and give it to them so they could defend them selves. If we can have Sima Yis kids, why not Zhuge Liangs? Again if he and Yueyng ever had any.
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Cao Zhang
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Zhuge Liang had a few sons, one of them was the son of his brother who he adopted, but none of them really had any impact in the novel from what I remember. It has been awhile since I've read it.

Zhuge Liang was all about his protégés though, so you could give the bladebow to one of them. Since we already have Pang Tong and Jiang Wei, it would pretty much have to be Ma Su. Zhuge Liang loved him.

Personally, I agree that Yue Ying should keep the dagger axe and that Ma Yunlu would probably be the best choice of a new character to use the bladebow. Lu Lingqi could maybe work to since Lu Bu was great at archery.

Many posts back, someone said that they think that with each set of 2 weapons released, one is for a current character and the other will be a future character. If that is the case, I'd say it's far more likely that the twin fans go back to Xiao Qiao than it is that the bladebow goes back to Yue Ying
Edited by Cao Zhang, Mon Jul 8, 2013 7:18 am.
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Celestial
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Ixbran
Mon Jul 8, 2013 4:44 am
while the bladebow does fit Yueyings inventive persona, her dagger axe also fits her martial artist aspect of her personality as well.

So i say give the blade bow to someone who is close to her in future games ... is it ever mentioned if Zhuge Liang and Yueying ever had any children? I could imagine that if they had kids, Yueying would invent something like the blade bow and give it to them so they could defend them selves. If we can have Sima Yis kids, why not Zhuge Liangs? Again if he and Yueyng ever had any.
Zhuge Zhan is a son of theirs and he would make a interesting addition if done right. I could see the her giving that weapon to him. Would be interesting if they made a scene about it with Yue Ying's death. :ph43r:
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Mr. Kamikaze
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Don't think we need to start giving weapons back stories. I think the bladebow should go to Ma Yunlu or Ma Su, Yueying never even needs to come up.
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AntonKutovoi
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By the way, why people so sure that all weapons certainly will go to someone? I think only new weapons will have an owner (unless in the next game they're planning to give characters two EX-weapons).
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AntonKutovoi
Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:04 am
(unless in the next game they're planning to give characters two EX-weapons).
Or they just scrap that and create some legit special attacks for characters that can be used no matter what weapon is equipped, ala Sengoku Basara 3. The EX attacks could then be used by those who have a max compatibility rating with a weapon.

Imo.

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I know this is weird of me for thinking this,but what happen if Koei brought back all the old weapon from the previous DW and they made it as a secondary weapon for the characters in the future?

For example
Guan Suo with nunchunk/greave boots
Yue Ying with dagger axe/bladed bow
Guan Ping with giant sword/zanpato
Xiao Qiao with single fan/twin fans
Xingcai with sword and shield/fork and shield
etc

and like AntonKutoni said they added two Ex for their weapon?
So everyone is decloned, but I guess there won't be anymore random weapon switch.

Um..yea..Ok. -__-
I just felt like posting this. I'm just saying things now.


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AntonKutovoi
Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:04 am
(unless in the next game they're planning to give characters two EX-weapons).
I can doubt that Koei will ever do that!
At all!!
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That definitely True, In DW7 People have been suggesting for Twin Fan, but no Twin Fan at all in DW7 OO If you dont agree! I dont know why
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Daikyō
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Shōkyō
Mon Jul 8, 2013 11:39 am
That definitely True, In DW7 People have been suggesting for Twin Fan, but no Twin Fan at all in DW7 OO If you dont agree! I dont know why
Well it's because some people here has requested for Daqiao's twin wands first before the twin fans, and releasing those two weapons at the same time weren't necessary, because if one the Qiaos is already unique with twin wands, it'll automatically make the other Qiao unique as well with the iron fan.

Anyway 3 days left for the twin fans' preview screenshots, can't hardly wait. :yes:
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The DLC weapons wont go to anyone till DW9 at least... after all whats the incentive to buy DLC weapons if Koei start a trend of them being on disc shortly afterwords anyway. Any new characters in XL will have their own new weapons just like was the case of Guo Jia when he was added in DW7XL and Wang Yi when her weapon was pulled as DLC and made on disc exclusive.
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The Outsider
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Right, basically with the blade bow I think it suits Yueying more than the dagger axe, but not old Yueying which is my favorite compared to now. I liked the old Yueying from DW4-5 more than what we have now. Still, the blade bow looks a lot nicer on her from DW6 so it's kinda a shame she's probably gonna stick with the dagger axe which is a horrible weapon to use now. I think if not Yueying, the blade bow has Ma Yunlu written all over it.
Edited by The Outsider, Mon Jul 8, 2013 6:56 pm.
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Mon Jul 8, 2013 6:54 pm
Right, basically with the blade bow I think it suits Yueying more than the dagger axe, but not old Yueying which is my favorite compared to now. I liked the old Yueying from DW4-5 more than what we have now. Still, the blade bow looks a lot nicer on her from DW6 so it's kinda a shame she's probably gonna stick with the dagger axe which is a horrible weapon to use now. I think if not Yueying, the blade bow has Ma Yunlu written all over it.
How's it horrible? That EX, while not really combo friendly, is pretty good (though I prefer the one she had in WO3) and the rest of the set is pretty damn good on it's own.
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Yunglex313
Mon Jul 8, 2013 9:07 pm
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Mon Jul 8, 2013 6:54 pm
Right, basically with the blade bow I think it suits Yueying more than the dagger axe, but not old Yueying which is my favorite compared to now. I liked the old Yueying from DW4-5 more than what we have now. Still, the blade bow looks a lot nicer on her from DW6 so it's kinda a shame she's probably gonna stick with the dagger axe which is a horrible weapon to use now. I think if not Yueying, the blade bow has Ma Yunlu written all over it.
How's it horrible? That EX, while not really combo friendly, is pretty good (though I prefer the one she had in WO3) and the rest of the set is pretty damn good on it's own.
Her moveset (outside of her EX, musous, and awakening) is way too brutish, that's the reason why i really despise the current dagger axe. And i honestly fail to see how the current dagger axe reflects her persona, because it's totally different from her pre-DW6 dagger axe.
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Ixbran
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Yueying has been, in recent games, represented as a woman who takes pride in everything she does. This includes both her level of intellect, her mechanical skills, and her martial arts prowess.

It was her fighting style with the Dagger-Axe that was the basis for her's and Xu Huangs friendship in WO3. She takes pride in her skills as a physical fighter, and changing her move-set from the Dagger-Axe, to the Blade bow, just because the dagger-axe isn't feminine enough just doesn't seem like a good enough excuse. Its a very stupid excuse in all honesty. Its the weapon she had when she made her debut to the series, and it is iconic to her character, as the Spiked shield is to Cao Ren.
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Fair enough I see the point that perhaps the animations with the Dagger-Axe are perhaps brutish but there are some points which I can say that reflect why it has somewhat brutish actions.

First thing is that the weapon can be used by any character by the player and since the weapon(s) can be equipped by either a male or a female then they have to make the weapon fit for both genders arguably. Well okay the Whip has some elegance but lets face it I'm sure some fans would equip the Whip with Zhang He or other candidates.

Secondly slightly off but a fair point is that the weapon is designed to grapple peons and I felt that is what it did, also in a war I'm sure arguably a weapon is there to at least hurt or damage rather then just to use just because they can.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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I agree that is way too brutish for what Yueying used to be, but I've grown attached to it. Maybe its because IT IS brutish, and she is the only female character in the game, along with Lianshi, who use power type weapons...makes them a little special to me cause Koei is always trying to turn the women into fragile, dainty, ladies who don't know how to use a sword so they fight with flutes instead.

I dunno...

But I do see where the issue lies. But I don't want her to lose teh dagger axe in fear that it'll be removed. Should the dagger axe go to someone else and Yueying gets the blade bow back, im sure i'll get over it pretty quick. But, I do like her as she is, so im not exactly clamoring for change in that regard.
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I dunno, I find the dagger axe pretty fitting. It might not be feminine, but YueYing doesn't exactly like to be known for being feminine either. Plus nowadays she takes pride in her martial abilities as well as her brawn. Now i'm not saying the bladebow wouldn't fit her, it'd arguably fit both aspects. Buuuut, i really don't think Yueying is the lady in need of a weapon change. That'd be a certain other crossbow wielding chick. Whom the bladebow would make more sense for her to use anyway. What with it having arrows for range and a blade for melee.
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Tue Jul 9, 2013 4:00 am
I dunno, I find the dagger axe pretty fitting. It might not be feminine, but YueYing doesn't exactly like to be known for being feminine either. Plus nowadays she takes pride in her martial abilities as well as her brawn. Now i'm not saying the bladebow wouldn't fit her, it'd arguably fit both aspects. Buuuut, i really don't think Yueying is the lady in need of a weapon change. That'd be a certain other crossbow wielding chick. Whom the bladebow would make more sense for her to use anyway. What with it having arrows for range and a blade for melee.
The Bladebow better be awesome and better stay awesome if they get rid of the crossbow...I wish Koei would make that Crossbow a Jump Cancel weapon, would be so much more mobile.
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Tue Jul 9, 2013 4:12 am
The Bladebow better be awesome and better stay awesome if they get rid of the crossbow...I wish Koei would make that Crossbow a Jump Cancel weapon, would be so much more mobile.
For all we know the crossbow could play the exact same as the dull one we have now. Especially since you can power the shots up. And the weapon is dull, you can't deny. It is efficient, and basically a shotgun, but even a real shot gun would be dull using that same normal string over and over again. Lianshi isn't that boring, just look at her new musou! Besides it makes alot more sense with a blade on it. This isn't a shooter game. It's a game where you are fighting 100's of people directly, most of the time surrounded. The crossbow movements aren't effective for being surrounded, at all. The only thing that makes it even bearable is it acting like a shotgun, and even then that upgrades it to 'no effort required'. Jump cancelling would really just make it need even less effort to use, all I want if it stays is a more mobile normal string!
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Guo Zhou
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ATETION PEOPLE, I HAVE A DOUBT.

Does DW7 costumes come in DW8 game or do we have to buy a DLC?
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Tue Jul 9, 2013 4:24 am
ATETION PEOPLE, I HAVE A DOUBT.

Does DW7 costumes come in DW8 game or do we have to buy a DLC?
Hold on, let me ask.

Hey guys! Do the Dynasty Warriors 7 costumes come on the disc or do we have to download them? :!: :?:
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Koei will keep that Dagger Axe on Yueying, I don't think Koei would want to introduce a new character with that horror of a weapon.
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You watch your mouth, sir!

I cannot see Koei taking the dagger axe away from her either. But...I do miss her EX from WO3, it was way more useful, the EX move in DW8/7Empires is...nice to look at, but it's not as handy.
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