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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
Topic Started: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:21 am (358,655 Views)
Lu Tzu
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lol like the fairytale one where I almost lost all respect for Xiahou Ba because they dressed him up like peter pan... You can't go from a full set of armor to green tights and a dumb hat.

ROTK,Kessen,maybe a medieval european theme..IDK
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Ryō Genken
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I want a summer/swimsuit themed costume....but too much male cast.....but i kinda want to see Lu Su in this suit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Punch_-_Masculine_beauty_retouched1.png

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I hope they start paying attention to a lot of the more recent martial arts films based on similar periods of ancient china... They can make dlc stand out this way. Also doesn't hurt if they go a lil futuristic here and there. No more beauty and the beast or big bad wolves please lol.
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Lu Tzu
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thats a good idea, theres a movie based on the story of Guan Yu (who is played by Donnie Yen) I forget the title of it that has some ideas they could use for costumes. Kinda old chinese armor
Edited by Lu Tzu, Fri Feb 8, 2013 4:45 am.
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BryllTheRed
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Donnie Yen is a beast.. He also has other movies they could draw from. We've pretty much covered a lot of the possibilities.

-DLC
Stages
Costumes
Weapons
Weapon Skins
BGMs

-Notable mentions
Ride Mount DLC
Characters
Modes
Accessories
Commander Mode DLC

I'm sure we're missing something. Lol... Escapes me at the moment though.
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Lu Tzu
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Nope I think you got everything listed there. I'm out of ideas myself for now. And about that swimsuit DLC, can that just be a female add cause I'd rather not see Dong Zhuo or Xu Zhu in a speedo lol
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I'd rather the summer DLC look more like the treatment they did with pang de. I would never use a speedo lol.
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Lu Tzu
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lol I can see them doing the women in a bathing suit them for DLC... they have gotten a lot more...echi with some of the girls, watch Wang Yuanji's video and watch when she does her first musou lmao thats as far as i will explain
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BryllTheRed
Fri Feb 8, 2013 6:46 am
I'd rather the summer DLC look more like the treatment they did with pang de. I would never use a speedo lol.
Id rather see them doing that too..Bryll.Imagine DOng Zhuo..with speedo..im going blind for that
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Lol I saw.. Swim suit dlc for the women would... :OMG: be... :wub: lol Lemme stop. Of course Granddaddy life guard Han Dang and Smooth sailor Huang gai would love the shore side attention. Watch them get those for dlc.

@ZeeZee Lol you trying to give me bad dreams bro.. I was about to go to bed! haha... Must wait for image to clear.
Edited by BryllTheRed, Fri Feb 8, 2013 7:44 am.
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Lu Tzu
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ZeeZeeGoo
Fri Feb 8, 2013 7:25 am
Id rather see them doing that too..Bryll.Imagine DOng Zhuo..with speedo..im going blind for that
lol zeezeegoo I said the same thing a page before this, definitely a bad idea haha
And the swimsuits might not be a bad idea now that I think about it :shifty: lol jk
Edited by Lu Tzu, Fri Feb 8, 2013 7:42 am.
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I asked Koinuma (SW and Ken's Rage producer) about the possibility of having DLC character in either DW7 or SW4.

Is answer is :
"Sorry, It is impossible."
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garnix
Fri Feb 8, 2013 8:13 am
I asked Koinuma (SW and Ken's Rage producer) about the possibility of having DLC character in either DW7 or SW4.

Is answer is :
"Sorry, It is impossible."
Sounds reasonable to certain people. I think Koei is not doing it because I guess they learn it from DLC of Dead or Alive. Something like it wouldn't be fair for others.
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Not fair ??
There are a lot of games with DLC characters, even Musou games.

Ken's Rage (both 1 & 2, but those from 1 are included in 2)
Gundam Musou 3.
DMC has a DLC Vergil.
Sony All Star Battle

I don't see at as an unfair thing.
Paying for a bonus is quite fair nowadays.
And what is better as a bonus than characters ?

DLC character is unfair, but DLC stages/weapons/movesets are not ?

In my opinion, DLC character is the best DLC they could make.
It could add replay value, way more than stages do.
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garnix
Fri Feb 8, 2013 8:39 am
Not fair ??
There are a lot of games with DLC characters, even Musou games.

Ken's Rage (both 1 & 2, but those from 1 are included in 2)
Gundam Musou 3.
DMC has a DLC Vergil.
Sony All Star Battle

I don't see at as an unfair thing.
Paying for a bonus is quite fair nowadays.
And what is better as a bonus than characters ?

DLC character is unfair, but DLC stages/weapons/movesets are not ?

In my opinion, DLC character is the best DLC they could make.
It could add replay value, way more than stages do.
Everyone has their own choice to see if they want to have dlc weapons, stages, etc. I don't mind about.

Some producers has their choice of having the character dlc and some might and some not. I just remember reading about DOA dlc information. Again, it's my opinion.
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Yes sure, it's all up to people's mind.
But saying it's unfaire is not true I think.

Well, it is, since all the DLC policies are usually unfair.
But characters and weapons are in the same boat I think ;)
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garnix
Fri Feb 8, 2013 8:13 am
I asked Koinuma (SW and Ken's Rage producer) about the possibility of having DLC character in either DW7 or SW4.

Is answer is :
"Sorry, It is impossible."
Thanks for that update Garnix, now we can move past that debate
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Oh shoot. there goes the possibility of having DLC characters in SW4, i honestly thought it's a good way to give out more important characters in the game.
BTW garnix, did you ask about the weapon dlc then? I think it's impossible since he is koinuma, but he can at least give us a tiny info about them?
Edited by Ryō Genken, Fri Feb 8, 2013 9:14 am.
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Oh great news, i'm personally happy that there'll be no DLC characters for this game since we already have a lot of characters and i think it would be better if they add the new characters in the expansion than DLC. Btw thanks for the info, Garnix.
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We don't need DLC characters. The roster is already pretty huge, so it is not necessary. If they want to add more characters, it'll be for XL/E. As I said before, if they add a DLC character with only a weapon, a bit of dialogue and no cutscene, it'd be a waste. Better to keep them for future games instead.

DLC characters are required for games such as Gundam/Hokuto/One Piece Musou because they don't have a lot of characters in the first place.
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Oh wow... Lol at least he answered right? Though I wouldn't have used the word impossible, as it is if done right. I understand that he believes they wont sponsor that form of dlc though. Too many games do it these days for it to be "impossible."

Characters unfortunately end up being locked on disc if they are included as dlc. Meaning scenes and dialogue, and all else involving them have to be done prior to release. Some cases it works out differently... More than likely it would have to be this way though.

Well at least we can move on... Sorry garnix, I know you were gunning for this pretty hard.

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Fri Feb 8, 2013 4:25 pm
Oh wow... Lol at least he answered right? Though I wouldn't have used the word impossible, as it is if done right. I understand that he believes they wont sponsor that form of dlc though. Too many games do it these days for it to be "impossible."

Characters unfortunately end up being locked on disc if they are included as dlc. Meaning scenes and dialogue, and all else involving them have to be done prior to release. Some cases it works out differently... More than likely it would have to be this way though.

Well at least we can move on... Sorry garnix, I know you were gunning for this pretty hard.

Well, I don't think Koei is going to do on disk content since Capcom mess up once. If they do on disk content, then they might get criticize for it. However, if it was to unlock by certain condition, then that's good.
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Wasn't saying that they will or wont, just saying that it's possible. I know Capcom is notorious for on-disk content, but they aren't the only ones. I think it's wrong to do on-disk content, but I understand why it's done. Which is why I don't complain much about it. Any DLC gets criticized whether it's on-disk or not, when in actuality... DLC in either form is here to stay, so long as it remains profitable. Developers have seen that no matter how it's done, players are willing to pay for it. Whether they complain about it or not. As long as the numbers on the paper keep looking great... Expect more of the same, and with Koei's recent profit gain.. I'm sure they will be looking for more ways to maximize the outcome.

Now apparently it wont be characters... That's not to say they wont use that avenue though.
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Fri Feb 8, 2013 1:08 pm
We don't need DLC characters. The roster is already pretty huge, so it is not necessary. If they want to add more characters, it'll be for XL/E. As I said before, if they add a DLC character with only a weapon, a bit of dialogue and no cutscene, it'd be a waste. Better to keep them for future games instead.

DLC characters are required for games such as Gundam/Hokuto/One Piece Musou because they don't have a lot of characters in the first place.
Starting with... you don`t need it. So speak only for yourself. No cutscenes? who cares, you have new man with unique appearance with unique weapons and movesets, and for me it`s more than enough. Seriously I don`t even want that some characters appeared frequently and annoy every time I saw them.

Characters like Man Chong and Xu Sheng (they are pretty much the same) are very easy to add. They are not so vital to the story, but highly likely that the main stage they represent won`t be in the game (He Fei Castle, Stone City Assault), both of them repelled massive Wu and Wei invasions, both of they were generals, when Chong was more official and Sheng more officer. Both of them has a lot of interactions with DW characters, and no cutscenes could be easily replaced with a few dialogues. With all honesty I am absolutely sure that was the definite reason why japanese fans put both of them under number 3 in their awaitlist of respective Kingdom... that`s only a matter of time when Koei add them, and why not in DLC? Everyone seems pretty confident that those 2 XL characters - Yu Jin and Cheng Pu, okay, but we don`t know it for sure. If Koei add them, completely fine, even that would be great. But Chong|Sheng will be great for dlc already in DW8, which has no chance, as it was confirmed by Koniuma. Sad, very sad... but this duo is great for haning own story in XL for example. I`m not sure about Demou, but both Xun Yu and Yu Jin has interesting endings at least...
While people claim Jin and Pu as a "fact", I would say better - we will see.
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You already have 77 (it'll be at least 80 with XL) characters, it is not enough? You really can't wait for the next main game to have even more characters?

The point is that having a character with a unique look just for the sake of having him/her as a playable character is useless. Better to keep them and work on them properly for the next game. DLC weapons makes sense, but not DLC characters, if they're not able to introduce them correctly; cutscenes, dialogues, interactions, etc.

There's no real point in this discussion anyway, since it is confirmed that there'll not be any DLC characters.
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