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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
Topic Started: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:21 am (358,654 Views)
WarHawk
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Where did bandana go?
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Wang Yue
Fri Feb 8, 2013 8:48 pm
You already have 77 (it'll be at least 80 with XL) characters, it is not enough? You really can't wait for the next main game to have even more characters?

The point is that having a character with a unique look just for the sake of having him/her as a playable character is useless. Better to keep them and work on them properly for the next game. DLC weapons makes sense, but not DLC characters, if they're not able to introduce them correctly; cutscenes, dialogues, interactions, etc.

There's no real point in this discussion anyway, since it is confirmed that there'll not be any DLC characters.
There is no ending... you know, give only a piece of cake, and you want more... I won`t say it`s greedy it`s rather my fanatism that does not allow accept the fact that some characters are not playable in the game (it`s not even characters it`s just one character). Moreover If Xu Sheng were UNPC in this game, then I would be finally tranquil.
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Lu Tzu
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I really didn't see them doing characters as DLC. They only have a limited number of character adds so it would be wise to save them when needed, but warhawk hopefully you get Xu Sheng for XL! Heres lookin forward for dlc news next weeks lol!
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WarHawk
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Lu Tzu
Fri Feb 8, 2013 10:59 pm
I really didn't see them doing characters as DLC. They only have a limited number of character adds so it would be wise to save them when needed, but warhawk hopefully you get Xu Sheng for XL! Heres lookin forward for dlc news next weeks lol!
Thanks man, I actually hope that Xu Sheng will be Xl newcomer. I don`t even care much with whom. Sorry Demou, but you no more equal to him. :/ So, to any new addition I will prefer Xu Sheng. Thanks Koei for Li Dian, but that was only one character whose addition was superior in my opinion in DW8 and that`s all.
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Lu Tzu
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@WarhawkWell hes got a good chance of getting in, he seems like a pretty popular add in Japan as well.

About Gan Ning's DW6 daggers, couldnt theye do something close to Ayane's wo3 moveset but revamp it so its not a clone? It really wouldn't take much.
@BryllTheRed sweet Ma Chao Sig
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Lu Tzu
Fri Feb 8, 2013 11:33 pm
About Gan Ning's DW6 daggers, couldnt theye do something close to Ayane's wo3 moveset but revamp it so its not a clone? It really wouldn't take much.
Not really. Some her moveset is toward to Nene's or Kunoichi's moveset. If you referring to the stance, then it's close enough.

I saw Gan Ning's Daggers,then looking the chain and sickle, and then, the flail. I think the daggers is good, but flail hits the jackpot for me :P

I don't mind fixing Gan Ning's twin daggers and add it as dlc.
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Lu Tzu
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Gan Ning doesn't have to get the daggers back, thats just what I call them so everyone knows what im talking about. The stance is good and thats why I said they should revamp it so it would have its own style...sorry should have explained myself more :hehe:
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@Wang Yue: Gundam Musou 3 had a huge roster and it still got DLC characters, I don't think roster size is the reason why they've decided to go for no DLC characters in DW8.

Personally, I'm a little indifferent. Perhaps it would've been better to have DLC characters - how will it being the end of the generation affect XL and E? On the otherhand...these games get plenty of DLC as it is. Apparantly, simply putting out lots of DLC isn't cheap for the developers?
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Lu Tzu
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Zillion
Sat Feb 9, 2013 1:08 am
@Wang Yue: Gundam Musou 3 had a huge roster and it still got DLC characters, I don't think roster size is the reason why they've decided to go for no DLC characters in DW8.
This what I was thinking when he said it was "impossible" to have characters as DLC since they have done it for other games like Gundam Musou, but I'm fine with the 77 characters we have.
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@Lu Tzu thanx man. Can't go into much detail at the moment, at work and just dropped by. Will be back later.
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Lu Tzu
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@BryllTheRed no problem bro!

But so far we have mainly focused on:
Weapons New/Old
Characters
Costumes
"Others" Side Stories
Weapon Skins
What-If scenarios
Animal Skins
New Guardian Animal DLC
Commander mode
Stages

I may have missed something but anyone else have any new ideas or ideas constributing to the listed DLC above?
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You know... At this point it's hard to say. I think we pretty much covered it all. Guess I'll weapon hunt or do like zeezee did and post pics of what types of costumes we could have, or what koei could possibly draw inspiration from or something. lol...
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Lu Tzu
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These are a couple of weapons id like to see in the game and to get us started I guess lol

Shaolin Spade
http://images.wikia.com/zombie/images/3/3f/Weapons_monk_spade.jpg
Dual scythes? Donno what they are called
http://s2.hubimg.com/u/3641201_f260.jpg
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BryllTheRed
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Would like to see
I look at them as sort of the rogues of the 3 kingdoms
Wu Style DLC


Will look for more styles soon. Pic makes me think Sun Quan and Lian Shi
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Lu Tzu
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BryllTheRed
Sat Feb 9, 2013 6:58 am
Would like to see
I look at them as sort of the rogues of the 3 kingdoms
Wu Style DLC


Will look for more styles soon. Pic makes me think Sun Quan and Lian Shi
You know this rogue stlye isnt a bad idea for Wu considering that some of the generals come from bandits, pirates, and what not.
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Oh yeah and forgot to mention.. The 2nd weapon you posted are the Kamas. Both weapons I really want in the series and posted in the weapons thread when we had it here. So 2 thumbs way up there.

For Shu and their benevolence... Monks?
Shu
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Lu Tzu
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kamas thanks for the info, I've wanted these in for awhile too i could nver find the name for them though. Lol the monk costumes would go well with the Shaolin Spade. I've always wanted to see them do a monk type character but I figured they would do it for a mystic in the orochi series.
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Maybe so lol... Even though about Liu Bei, Zhuge Liang, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Zhao Yun, Ma Chao, and Huang Zhong dressing as 7 samurai.

Jia Chong DLC

perhaps lol... Some of the Jin members could get this gunslinger-esque feel seeing how they pretty much shoot down the hopes and dreams of the kingdoms of past.
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Lu Tzu
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I could see Jia Chong wearing that. A gunsliger/Western theme would be pretty cool. Lol shoot down the dreams of wei..i like that haha

I was thinking about brass knuckles, theres a lot of unique ones but heres an example of one with a blade

http://www.swordsknivesanddaggers.com/knives/knives-skull-knuckle-knife-fm-575.jpg
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Ryō Genken
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Lu Tzu
Sat Feb 9, 2013 8:41 am
I could see Jia Chong wearing that. A gunsliger/Western theme would be pretty cool. Lol shoot down the dreams of wei..i like that haha

I was thinking about brass knuckles, theres a lot of unique ones but heres an example of one with a blade

http://www.swordsknivesanddaggers.com/knives/knives-skull-knuckle-knife-fm-575.jpg
That can go to Ii naomasa from SW series..(not guan suo you know.. :P )

There's also a deer-horn knives too.

I still waiting character who use flag-pole to fight
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Weapons: No. All the characters are decloned now, so for there's no reason to add a new weapon.

Stages: Definitely. A lot of the staged were boring, though, so the have to put a little more effort in that.

Outfits: Why not. However, they really are pushing it with the ridiculous prices latley, so the should watch that out.

Characters: No, just no. We already have too much new characters for one installment, so no.
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Ryō Genken
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Sat Feb 9, 2013 9:00 am
Weapons: No. All the characters are decloned now, so for there's no reason to add a new weapon.
But some characters still shared the weapon with generic.

Xiaoqiao's iron fan
Sun Quan's dao
Ma Chao's Spear
Xu Zhu's Club
Guan Ping's Great Sword
Wang yuanji's Throwing knives

I dont see why we cant add new weapons to the dlc despite the fact all of them already decloned with each playable characters. But some of 'em are still shared with generic.

They can give:
- Xiaoqiao's twin fans
- Sun Quan's WO3/DW6 Pronged sword
- Ma Chao's new spear moveset under different name
- Xu Zhu's new club moveset unde different name/new weapon
- Guan Ping's Zanbato
- Wang Yuanji's new throwing knives moveset under different name

I think adding new weapon increase more replayability. Honestly i like ding feng's circle blade and it's perk. I can see KOEI give DLC weapons with a certain perk like circle blade does.
Edited by Ryō Genken, Sat Feb 9, 2013 9:06 am.
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Lu Tzu
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I don't see the problem with adding DLC weapons either regardless if everyone is decloned. Like the old weapons mentioned above they would be a good option as DLC, nothing wrong with new ones either haha
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Ryō Genken
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And just to quote from DW8 thread:
Not to mention:
- Lu Su's rake. Depending on the environment he stands, differente effect of charge attack. IN a sense a geomancy skills from FF.
- Li Dian's Wheel halberd. Sets trap.
- Cao Cao's clone sword
- Lu Xun's Swallow sword.
- Yinping's weapon. More effective if her ex attack is activated.
- Zhang bao's whip sword. More coverage of the weapon.
- Ding Feng's charge. Push triangle at the exact time, deals more better damage
- Zhurong's boomerang. Activate chun li's kick, to give more combo.

KOEI so far has been creative with their weapon.I really hope with the inclusion of dlc, more replayability is given.
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Lu Tzu
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Plus the weapon DLC packs were pretty popular soo I dont see why they wouldnt make and bank off more of them
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They are pretty much all but confirmed anyway. I'm almost sure, to anyone saying "no" to them will buy them if they're done anyway.

Stages with almost no story months after release= little to no replay value

Costumes months later= all player has to do is view them and turn game off. little to no replay value there.

Weapons months later alongside other 2= More reasons to tackle dlc stages wearing dlc costumes providing more replay value while maximizing the use of others.

Value even a weapon skin wont provide. They only have to be viewed as well.

Then there is the factor of future use, though in what capacity is up to koei.
Edited by BryllTheRed, Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:12 pm.
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