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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
Topic Started: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:21 am (358,645 Views)
Ryō Genken
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Snow Villiers from FF XIII didnt use those type of weapon at all.. all he needed is a symbol in the back of his coat to strengthen his fist. Maybe...for Guan Suo, the flower on his head can become the source of his power? LOL
AH...how about taking Most of the charge attack from ling tong in WO3? Isnt most of them involves kicking in it?
I kinda wish that the weapon dlc will have a bit more perks on it.
I like Short pike(HAN Dang's version) for different attacks for how long you press the charge button.
I like how Guan xing's blade focus on aerial combo.
I like Circle blade to press charge button at a right time
I like how Boomerang's chun li kick will give a bit more combo
I like Rake, for different effect where you are standing
I like Rotating halberd, set up traps

More weapon like this should come out in the game
Edited by Ryō Genken, Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:16 pm.
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Averryy
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Did koei say why they couldn't do DLC characters? If they gave a good enough reason then I'll get over it, but a simple "it's to hard" is utter bull...

Also I doubt they will go a martial arts moveset as DLC because it just wouldn't work on some characters haha. What would the difference be if they get a stronger weapon? A new pair of bigger hands! That'd make me laugh
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I doubt the bigger the better idiom, didnt work here
They just can change to more ornate design and it doesnt need to get bigger than usual..
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Averryy
Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:14 pm
Did koei say why they couldn't do DLC characters? If they gave a good enough reason then I'll get over it, but a simple "it's to hard" is utter bull...

Also I doubt they will go a martial arts moveset as DLC because it just wouldn't work on some characters haha. What would the difference be if they get a stronger weapon? A new pair of bigger hands! That'd make me laugh
First part. Yes Sir, they did mention that they won't do it and I don't know the reason. (BTW, Thanks, Garnix). My guess it might be "not fair" type of the thing just like what they did to Dead or Alive.

Second part: If you want martial arts moveset, the problem is that you dealing with massive armies. Lu Tzu mention about Naotora's weapon, which that will make it up. However, I will add arm blade just to be sure that he protect himself. :cool:
Edited by Mark Robin, Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:33 pm.
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Maybe just a shield as a weapon, cant remeber in who but Warriors of troy a character just used a shield, it would probably be best suited for a character who is really strong, I dont see a woman as Koei portrays them running around with a giant shield forcing all these peons away.
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We only have....

Guan Ping
Ma Chao
Sun Quan
Xu Zhu
Xiao Qiao
Wang Yuanji

Possibles (Decloned but dated)
Guan Suo
Lian Shi
Zhang Jiao
Huang Zhong

If all of those get treatment... I'm thinking 9-12 weapons will be where they stop. Only leaving a small number to CAW or DW9. DW8 weapon changes kept the weapon changes similar to what the character already had. Retaining Ex and Musou... Which I think this treatment was due to time constraints. DW7XL started weapon reorganization, which tweaked more than just weapons. Some characters got a new weapon, some got a new EX, and some got new musous, some got all three. This could be the case with weapon/moveset reorganization in DW8XL-Empires.

What I'm thinkin???

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S-String-A mixture of one handed swings and thrust leading into him gripping spear two handed for weapon twirls and power sweeps.
Charges
C1-Jumps forward into one handed power thrust (Can be held to knock enemies back)
C2-Quick double reverse twirl sending enemies up
C3-(grab)Bat away sweep into a thrust that stabs, he then uses a spinning back kick to free enemy from spear.
C4-Forward Roundhouse into a spinning blow away sweep leaving him in a crouched position ready to pounce ***EX***
C5-Uses spear to aid him in vaulting upward into a backflip kick, leaving him aerial...
C6-Powerful spinning 2 handed sweep, followed by a vaulting flying kick.(Hard knock down)
Dash Attack-Similar to Zhao Yun's DW6 running charge attack.
Aerial Attack-Foward spear sweep(scoops enemies from ground) into power spinning back kick.
Aerial Charge-(Grab)Forward dashing thrust stab(similar to Pang Tong), takes grabbed enemy overhead and throws them to the ground creating shockwave for crowd control.
Switch Attack-Vaulting Helix Twist into forward sweeping strike(hard knock down)
***Perks***
*Can cancel attacks into C1
**Can use Switch attack in Air
---Aerial Switch Attack-Throws spear at opponents below causes spin launch, buying him time to land and juggle.
***Jump Cancel
1st Musou (NEW)Runs a step then disappearing into a vaulting jump animation, comes down slamming spear into the ground with lightning element. Causes Spin Launch...

Long post.. :XD Your turn..

EDIT-charge count mistake
Edited by BryllTheRed, Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:30 pm.
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BryllTheRed
Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:10 pm
We only have....

Guan Ping
Ma Chao
Sun Quan
Xu Zhu
Xiao Qiao
Wang Yuanji

Possibles (Decloned but dated)
Guan Suo
Lian Shi
Zhang Jiao
Huang Zhong

If all of those get treatment... I'm thinking 9-12 weapons will be where they stop. Only leaving a small number to CAW or DW9. DW8 weapon changes kept the weapon changes similar to what the character already had. Retaining Ex and Musou... Which I think this treatment was due to time constraints. DW7XL started weapon reorganization, which tweaked more than just weapons. Some characters got a new weapon, some got a new EX, and some got new musous, some got all three. This could be the case with weapon/moveset reorganization in DW8XL-Empires.

What I'm thinkin???

Shu
Ma Chao
Spear of Justice (Speed)
Stance
Spoiler: click to toggle

S-String-A mixture of one handed swings and thrust leading into him gripping spear two handed for weapon twirls and power sweeps.
Charges
C1-Jumps forward into one handed power thrust (Can be held to knock enemies back)
C2-Quick double reverse twirl sending enemies up
C3-(grab)Bat away sweep into a thrust that stabs, he then uses a spinning back kick to free enemy from spear.
C4-Forward Roundhouse into a spinning blow away sweep leaving him in a crouched position ready to pounce ***EX***
C5-Uses spear to aid him in vaulting upward into a backflip kick, leaving him aerial...
C6-Powerful spinning 2 handed sweep, followed by a vaulting flying kick.(Hard knock down)
Dash Attack-Similar to Zhao Yun's DW6 running charge attack.
Aerial Attack-Foward spear sweep(scoops enemies from ground) into power spinning back kick.
Aerial Charge-(Grab)Forward dashing thrust stab(similar to Pang Tong), takes grabbed enemy overhead and throws them to the ground creating shockwave for crowd control.
Switch Attack-Vaulting Helix Twist into forward sweeping strike(hard knock down)
***Perks***
*Can cancel attacks into C1
**Can use Switch attack in Air
---Aerial Switch Attack-Throws spear at opponents below causes spin launch, buying him time to land and juggle.
***Jump Cancel
1st Musou (NEW)Runs a step then disappearing into a vaulting jump animation, comes down slamming spear into the ground with lightning element. Causes Spin Launch...

Long post.. :XD Your turn..

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This looks good to me, Ma Chao needs to have his own original weapon thats not shared with clones. Like how you planned his moveset also love his C3 and C5!
Edited by Lu Tzu, Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:58 pm.
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Lol if only it would happen... I know it won't though. I'm thinking he'll get another weapon.. Just not sure how they will approach him. Thought him doing kicks and vaults here and there would set him apart from the other spear users.

Thanx for the feedback though. :2up:
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BryllTheRed
Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:50 pm
Lol if only it would happen... I know it won't though. I'm thinking he'll get another weapon.. Just not sure how they will approach him. Thought him doing kicks and vaults here and there would set him apart from the other spear users.

Thanx for the feedback though. :2up:
no problem, he had a different type of great sword in DW6 Empires didnt he? I won't get in to that though, I know ppl love his his spear like myself.
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Yeah I had a different Idea for his Great Sword though... When Ma Teng comes, if he ever comes, let papa Ma have it. Lol. Although... I will admit... I've been thinking Koei may consider that sword again, though I prefer him with a spear.

I thought about it because his Musous can easily be replaced with that sword. The way he grabs and lands in his 2nd musou... Even his 1st Musou... Just easy to adapt them to the Sword. I just hope he remains quick. In that case is why I wish for him to keep the spear, even if Godspeed is an option.
Edited by BryllTheRed, Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:09 pm.
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Lu Tzu
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:06 pm
Yeah I had a different Idea for his Great Sword though... When Ma Teng comes, if he ever comes, let papa Ma have it. Lol. Although... I will admit... I've been thinking Koei may consider that sword again, though I prefer him with a spear.

I thought about it because his Musous can easily be replaced with that sword. The way he grabs and lands in his 2nd musou... Even his 1st Musou... Just easy to adapt them to the Sword. I just hope he remains quick. In that case is why I wish for him to keep the spear, even if Godspeed is an option.
It could work his sword from Dynasty Warriors 6 is different from the greatsword though, I would call it more of a thick claymore lol...just so I don't confuse people. Thats one thing that makes Ma Chao is his amazing speed, acrobatics, and unorthodox style from past games...they should take a note from your moveset you got there for him... it screams Ma Chao lol

But the Claymore not gonna lie thought Ma Dai was gonna get it in DW7, if Papa Teng ever makes it in then that would be a good choice for him
Edited by Lu Tzu, Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:19 pm.
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I like Ma Chao enough to settle for either really. I don't know if his Musou's are supposed to be hints are what lol. Guess I'll see clearer when his gameplay clip is up. I wonder if they made any adjustments to the spear. At all...

I do agree that the sword could work though, even with the moveset I posted... He would just have to vault off his sword instead.
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:26 pm
I like Ma Chao enough to settle for either really. I don't know if his Musou's are supposed to be hints are what lol. Guess I'll see clearer when his gameplay clip is up. I wonder if they made any adjustments to the spear. At all...

I do agree that the sword could work though, even with the moveset I posted... He would just have to vault off his sword instead.
Seeing as how the Dao had a different charge on one of its attacks but most of them were the same, the spear could have some different ones...tbh it probably didn't change much, but there might be a chance they gave him a new moveset, we will find out this week though with the update.

They could always give him, like we said a new spear moveset as DLC or that claymore
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Lol I'm doubting it changed much as well... If they really are planning what we've been talking about, there is no need. It's becomes generic anyway. Can't wait for the update, either way.. There is a small chance we get to see his aerial and AM.
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See Id like to see Ma Teng join the cast at some point, but I do feel that there are others who able to be fleshed out more because of where the game is now.

I really want to see more dual wield weapons, I think we have enough single handed that came from DLC. Apart from the twin wands did we actually get any dual handed weapons.
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I know the twin sais for suppose to be for DLC in DW7, but they were taken out for Wang Yi, hence why we had one weapon pack that only had 1 weapon, but I know you know that.

I'd like some dual weapons myself. dual spears (wanted Wen Yang to get these but oh well lol) dual whips, daos, kamas lol soo many haha
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Ive said it numerous times and you guys are all probably bored of hearing it, but I really want to see a sword and dagger combination come out as a DLC weapon in the 8 era. I think it would be quite a fast moveset, suited for the younger characters.
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Of course there are always better adds... Wasn't really saying he was better than anyone else. Just said if he ever made it, thats who I would like to see the sword Lu Tzu and I were discussing go to.

@Dual Wielding... I would like to see more of it as well. And yeah Wang Yi's Trishula's were DLC, before they decided to hold them. I was actually hoping Wen Yang or Ma Chao got the twin spears... But as of now, Yang... Javelin and Ma Chao... Spear.

I want the Katars/Puntures, Dual Kamas, Twin Spears, Twin Dao etc etc.. All dual weapons have potential. Don't really want it to stop there though... More Strategist weapons are needed as well as Heavy weapons.. Looking at it from a glance...

Guan Ping - Zanbato
Ma Chao - Spear of Justice
Sun Quan - Twin Daos/Mace/Some sword
Xiao Qiao - Twin Fans
Xu Zhu - Wrecking Ball
Wang Yuanji - Throwing Needles/Kunai/Shuriken

these are subject to change but handling these characters may end up taking place... Possibility they wont. Outside of them they have room to use whatever.

Edit- Sword and Dagger would be cool.
Edited by BryllTheRed, Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:22 am.
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Sorry I didnt mean for it to sound abrupt, I get where you were coming from with that weapon suiting him and what not.

Those ideas for weapons would be great, I'd rather see them come as DLC first so we can have a bit of a mess about with them. I cant wait aslong as Koei thinks we should wait for people to become unique from NPCs.
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No apologies needed friend.. I knew you weren't being that way, just wanted to clarify. Hopefully I didn't come off defensive, was just trying to be clear...

I think whatever weapons we get in 8 won't come with any EX's. Some of them will go to the characters listed in XL and the ones left will go to CAW's most like.

If things are supposed to be similar to 7 and if they actually are doing dlc weapons, then.. I could see that happening.
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The Sword and Dagger could be pretty sweet if they do it right lol. I have a feeling though that Xiao Qiao, Ma Chao, and Sun Quan will be the first ones to be decloned...especially Xiao Qiao seems like everyone and their mother wants the twin fans to come back... Koei making them as DLC could make some bank in their pockets with that one lol as well as the others.

And as for Ma Teng yeah that was all just talk about the Claymore/broad sword/w/e, theres no way I want him before Yuan Shu lol

That wrecking ball though, they need to put that as DLC ASAP lol, then take my money.
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Haha its okay you werent defensive! :P

See Im not to sure about DLC weapons in 8 becomming Ex weapons of new characters in 8XL and 8E, dont you think it would be a waste of money in a sense? If they do what they did with 7 & 7XL where DLC was compatible, I certainly wouldnt buy DLC weapons if I knew they were going to be included with the expansion I was going to buy anywayy.

I think we will get all new weapons with new characters, then the DLC weapons will be left for the CAWs in Empires.

But anything is possible right?
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I completely agree.. Ma Chao, Sun Quan, and Xiao Qiao will likely be first then followed by the others.

I hope ZeeZee gets his wish.. I know we all won't be happy with what takes place. Or maybe I'm wrong and we all will be. Lets hope I'm wrong.

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Didn't mean New characters... Characters like Ma Chao, Quan, and Qiao etc etc.. Those are the ones that will get DLC weapons. New characters will get the treatment Wang Yi and Guo Jia got most likely. At least thats what I'm aiming for.
Edited by BryllTheRed, Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:47 am.
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@Bryll: :pat: :pat: Thx you very much for hoping that my wish come true..
Love your moveset for Ma Chao..although the stance kinda similar to wen yang's one.
I kinda wish yu Jin would just be in this game as an UNPC with Nunchaku...just so guan suo would get cloned again.. so that he(suo) will receives new weapon..but it's an impossibility... but im still wishing for it though... :XD
Edited by Ryō Genken, Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:50 am.
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Lol no prob bro.. What you wish for will bring a since of variety. If Gai gets his boat... Then why not have Kung-Fu styled moveset.

My Chinese Boxing set, I actually want to be CAW exclusive.. haha.. Not happening though.
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