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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
Topic Started: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:21 am (358,612 Views)
ThreeKingdomsWarrior
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Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:05 am
ThreeKingdomsWarrior
Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:10 am
I find new weapons (movesets) quite unnecessary at this point. For reasons already spoken out.
You could argue that all DLC is unnecessary though. I mean, it's basically extra content for those who want more out of the game.

With that said, some of these arguments on both sides of the dlc weapons debate are piss poor imo.

Using the 'but some characters share the same weapon type as generics' excuse makes me cackle because it seems like such a lame excuse, while the 'everyone already has their own weapon type so why add more?' excuse can be counter-acted with a tonne of hacknslash games (Ninja Gaiden, Metal Gear Rising, DMC, Bayonetta, etc).

:whistle:
The thing with weapons though, is that the majority wants them to be EX'ed for a new character. Costumes on the other hand, are just cosmetic stuff. I don't see people being like "Wow, this costume looks great and needs to be given to a new character in DW9." That would be pointless.
Weapons form the character. Additional costumes don't. So that's why these kind of DLCs are maybe a bit more accepted among the fanbase right now. When you release a weapon, it is as if you released a part of a future new character beforehand, until you release the character himself/herself. That being said, i think there will be 2 DLC-weapons. But those will be announced somewhen after they revealed the results of the current Famitsu poll. If 8XL will have 3 new characters, the winner of the poll will have a completely new weapon, while the other 2 will get THOSE 2 DLC-weapons. Similar thing happened to the new additions in 7XL.
One thing i don't have against new DLC-weapons being released beforehand, is that if DW9 on the PS4 will have many new and different gameplay mechanics. Those weapons would therefore work differently. Sort of like what they did with the Short Pike on Han Dang.

As for the games you mentioned. It's a very different situation. Those games have just one main character, with maybe 2-3 more characters. Let's take Ninja Gaiden 3 as an example. I own it, still didn't play it, but followed some infos about it in the beginning. Ryu Hayabusa had only his Katana to play with, unlike in the older games where he had more to choose from. Of course the majority complained because they had to play with the main character for the whole game with only one weapon which couldn't be even leveled up. Later they released some DLC-weapons but the harm was made already.
I mean, it's different to play with one character and having the choice of 4-5 weapons for that character, as to play with around 80 characters while having a weapon for each of them. If for example someone plays only with certain characters in DW8, that person has already the choice of having around 80 different weapons to choose from.
Edited by ThreeKingdomsWarrior, Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:24 pm.
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Flik
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Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:04 am
and on the topic of weapon DLC, i agree they should continue releasing them. Not only new weapons, but id also love to see past weapons return. Yueying Bladebow, Meng Huos stone pillar, Xiang Yu's Dual Dao, Zhou Muwangs Tri-blade gauntlets, Joan of Arcs Enchanted Spear, Nezhas magic rings. all of those would make awesome additions.
I'd shout "Shut up and take my money" right on KOEI's face if they made (all or some of) Warriors Orochi character's weapons available somehow (DLC or Empires). Like when 5XL had Fu Xi and Nuwa's for CAWs.

Playing with Yoshitsune's Lightsaber on Dynasty Warriors would be glorious :cool:
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I'm all for DLC weapons for DW8, yes the weapons would most likely end up being slapped on a new character but to be honest despite Han Dang getting the Short Pike over a new weapon I'm still pumped to play him, and people want old weapons to return and we got a couple in the Conjoined Swords and Wired Claws to name a couple, but let's face it they can bring back the Bladed Bow or the Twin Daggers with a changed move set as DLC the fact still remains it's a weapon we have used in the past and isn't really new, but DLC weapons would be awesome in Empires since they lack an owner it'll give more variety to CAWs plus Orochi Weapons as CAW exclusive would go down a treat as ownerless (who doesn't want to give Zhang Fei the Gourd)

Sorry if it doesn't make much sense.
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lexmark
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Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:36 pm
Costumes are so boring to me, I don't really take notice of what characters are wearing unless I don't like what they're wearing. Only DLC I'm interested in is weapons and stages. I usually find a certain BGM already in the game I'll listen to over and over so new BGMs aren't my cuppa tea.

But whether or not I'll buy it, I'm still happy koei support their games after the release with DLC, they've arrived in the 21st century lol
Which is why I said the DLC is really up to the consumer on what they decide is worth it or not. The only thing people really cry out for is costumes and stages, but at the same time I can see why people would want music. I don't see the point of weapons DLC when anyone can use said weapon and the game isnt hard or anything to justify needing it and there's no vs mode. That doesn't mean I want them to stop making weapon DLC but with 80 characters with mostly different weapons fighting styles I just can't justify it and very few ask for weapons in most any game. I guess all this will come into play on the xtreme legends game that'll maybe come out.
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More useless crap for DLC, great a wallpaper.
Get it together KOEI because this is getting extremely boring.
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Since we have some kind of gaiden stages which can be skipped (e.g. Puyang & Xiapi in Wei's story), why can't they just add some new stages in Story mode using the same manner? For example Yangping Gate or Changban for Wei.

I'd find that much better than some costumes, wallpapers or BGM.
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lexmark
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Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:16 pm
Since we have some kind of gaiden stages which can be skipped (e.g. Puyang & Xiapi in Wei's story), why can't they just add some new stages in Story mode using the same manner? For example Yangping Gate or Changban for Wei.

I'd find that much better than some costumes, wallpapers or BGM.
Who says they aren't? Why are people worried about stage DLC when they always have that? For that matter why are people worried about any of the usual DLC they release.
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Since we have some kind of gaiden stages which can be skipped (e.g. Puyang & Xiapi in Wei's story), why can't they just add some new stages in Story mode using the same manner? For example Yangping Gate or Changban for Wei.

I'd find that much better than some costumes, wallpapers or BGM.
Who says they aren't? Why are people worried about stage DLC when they always have that? For that matter why are people worried about any of the usual DLC they release.
They did release Bowang Slope, but it was just a remastered stage from DW4 without any introduction, character perspectives or cutscenes as in the Story stages.

I also didn't say they weren't making any, I just stated that they could do them instead of releasing costume stuff like they're doing now. And I doubt that if they are going to release more DLC stages, they'd be incorporated somehow into the story. They didn't do it for DW7 after all (though, admittedly, story mode worked a bit different there).
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The website's been updated and you can see color pictures of the costumes now ohoho.

http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/smusou7/dlc/

List of next month's DLC. I think I see weapons on there?
Edited by Komatsu, Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:01 am.
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Ryō Genken
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新武器系統セット「焔刃剣」200円

新武器系統セット「螺旋弩」200円

translate this into....weapon system!!??? New weapon??!!
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FKA
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Oh..... my goodness.
Edited by FKA, Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:13 am.
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Mr. Kamikaze
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The mammoth is bad ass and all...

But I wanna ride a Tyrannosaurus...make that happen, and my money is all yours.
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Angelic Linca
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Like Cai Wenji's new Costume :P

Those other ones aren't bad either.
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only thing i want is if they make xl and empires exclusive again to add any new characters as dlc on the 360 version, plz and thanks!
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Schedule for next month's DLCs is up

BGM追加セット4無料
BGM追加セット5無料
BGM追加セット6無料
Extra BGM sets 4~6 - Free

BGMキャラクターソング「王異」無料
BGMキャラクターソング「陸遜」無料
BGMキャラクターソング「張苞」無料
BGMキャラクターソング「文鴦」無料
BGM Character Songs for Wang Yi, Lu Xun, Zhang Bao, Wen Yang - Free

勢力集合壁紙&得意武器壁紙セット(晋・他)無料
Jin & Other Faction characters & EX weapon wallpapers set - Free

新武器系統セット「焔刃剣」200円
新武器系統セット「螺旋弩」200円
New Weapon Types - Blaze Blade and Screw Crossbow - 200 yen each
(yes, they're finally coming)

オリジナル衣装(「呉」18キャラクター)各 100円
オリジナル衣装(「蜀」21キャラクター)各 100円
オリジナル衣装(「晋・他」20キャラクター)各 100円
オリジナル衣装セット(呉)600円
オリジナル衣装セット(蜀)600円
オリジナル衣装セット(晋・他)600円
オリジナル衣装全セット 2,200円
Original Costumes for the rest of the factions (Wu, Shu, Jin-Other)
Individual - 100 yen each
Faction set - 600 yen each
All-in-one set - 2200 yen

女性武将集合壁紙(甄姫&蔡文姫&王異)20円
女性武将集合壁紙(孫尚香&大喬&小喬&練師)20円
女性武将集合壁紙(月英&星彩&鮑三娘&関銀屏)20円
3 Female characters wallpapers - 20 yen each
1. Zhenji, Cai Wenji & Wang Yi
2. Sun Shangxiang, DaQiao, XiaoQiao & Bu Lianshi
3. Huang Yueying, Zhang Xingcai, Bao Sanniang & Guan Yinping

異色武器セット1 100円
異色武器セット2 100円
異色武器セット3 100円
異色武器セット4 100円
Alternate Colored Weapon sets 1~4 - 100 yen each

『真・三國無双3』シナリオセット「江東」&特製支援獣「白虎」200円
DW4 Jiangdong scenario + Support Animal White Tiger set - 200 yen

基地テーマ「テーマパーク風」200円
New Base BGM - Theme Park Style - 200 yen
(EDIT: Fixed, thanks Dao v )
Edited by BlackKite, Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:39 am.
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The DLC pricing for this game is upped from 7.

The 2 new weapons are 200 yen each. 100 yen up from DW7's.

Same with the costume sets.

Also you can see 4 Recolored Weapon sets for 100 yen each as well.

And Black Kite that's not a a BGM for Shosei Mode. It's a town theme. As in the assets used to make the town. The game by default only includes a Chinese style city and a Japanese styled city.
Edited by Daosiying, Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:32 am.
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The screw crossbow makes me think of YueYing's Dw6 weapon? xD

-CaiWenji's costume and the Mammoth looks cool ^^
-I keep seeing Sun Quan with the Blaze Blade lol
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YES, NEW WEAPONS! SOOO EXCITED!

*happy flails*
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Could this "screw crossbow" be Yueying's DW6 weapon, perhaps?

Blaze blade...sounds like another sword. Which is fine, so long as it has a cool moveset.

New weapons seems odd...given that everyone is decloned. I mean, I suppose that's no reason to not add new weapons, but I just can't see myself using them since everyone is already unique anyway. Still, nice to have.

Wonder if these DLC weapons will become EX weapons of the XL newbies...that'd be a little...cheap. Welcome, but...cheap.
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Wasn't originally going to buy DLC for the JP version, I was going to wait for the English game.

However new weapons pulled me in. Definitely going to throw my money at Koei now.
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Blaze Blade? What if it's a sword that's permanently burning.

Screw Crossbow might be Yueying's DW6 weapon?
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Thank BK.

Nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww, wer're talking about new weapons! Maybe time to declone with the generic, officers?
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This is true...what if they plan on using these DLC weapons to give to Sun Quan, Ma Chao, Wang Yuanji...and those other peeps who share weapons with generics...if there are anymore.

If there is a sword that sets people on fire? Sounds like a suitable Quan weapon.
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hmm.. Blaze Blade remind me of Sun Quan, since his musou is basically fire/explosion. moreover he also share current weapon with generic.

Crossbow? DW6:S Yue Ying's ?

i want DLC weapons for the likes of Sun Quan, Ma Chao, Wang Yuanji, and Guan Ping.
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Blaze Blade either reminds me of either Sun Quan or Sun Jian while Screw Crossbow reminds me of Yueying in DW6: Special. Still wishing to return Xiao Qiao's Twin Fans, Xingcai's Fork and Shield, Lu Bu's Cross Halberd, Gan Ning's Daggers for DLC
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