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| Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content | |
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| Pang Tong | Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:07 pm Post #151 |
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I want Lu Kang as DLC. |
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| BryllTheRed | Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:56 am Post #152 |
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Spoiler: click to toggle **Edited** I'll only ask a question here... Are you for or against them? Edited by BryllTheRed, Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:11 am.
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| Ryō Genken | Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:10 am Post #153 |
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I still think this game should get a dlc weapons, dlc stages and costume seems unavoidable, but a dlc weapon to me should appear in this game..i know it's because of my obssesion for Guan Suo tog et a martial arts gloves, but it also to give nostalgia feeling such as Xiaoqiao's twin fans, PIng's Zanbato, Gan Ning's old dagger, Yueying's bladebow. I still think we should get them.. |
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| BryllTheRed | Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:23 am Post #154 |
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Same here.. Just adds to the replayability IMO. I'm probably going to jump back either XL or WO3 before this next week is out up until FOTNS2 comes out. From there , I'll ride the hype of it and 7E up to 8. Since I'm ordering the treasure box... Wont be long for me. Hopefully the dlc campaign for it is deep. I love adding onto my games as long as it's worthwhile. |
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| Lu Tzu | Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:25 am Post #155 |
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The thing I would like about DLC weapons is that if we get any maybe we could assume that those weapons would be given to new characters later on...hint hint giving us an idea of how many new characters there might be. Also for new characters as DLC I would love to see it, but I doubt for one, the characters help them sell the game and two they need to keep the more popular adds like Cheng Pu, Liao Hua, Du Yu, Lu Kang for later installments |
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| BryllTheRed | Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:36 am Post #156 |
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Nah wouldn't want them to add big names through DLC... If they ever did it, maybe on someone that doesn't impact the main story as much. Character dlc is unlikely though, as you said. It's not impossible to do, just up to Koei on that to decide if they could benefit from it. It would have to be done right if they did. Weapons? Thats the way I look at it Lu Tzu... |
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| Lu Tzu | Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:53 am Post #157 |
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Then we are on the same page haha, adding big names wouldnt be beneficial for them as DLC unless they are "lesser Characters like you said. I like your idea for the XL Destiny mode though with the CAW you mentioned above, sounds cool. I like to see dlc like bodyguards(I know they will probably never come back lol), horses/mounts, old stages, weapons/weapon skins |
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| garnix | Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:16 am Post #158 |
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Wait, you said it "wouldnt be beneficial" ?? Important characters as DLC is a 100% win situation for TK I think. Less important characters could be a loss however. I mean, let's say TK wants to make Cheng Pu unique in DW9. But finally decides to include him as DLC for DW8. His face/model will be made for DW8, and won't change that much for DW9, thus the work will be already done for DW9, they won't have to make it twice. His outfit will probably change but considering the amount of outfits they made as DLC, this is nothing. If I remember well, one DLC outfit = 1€. So let's say it's 2€, 'cause we have to pay for the new face, which will be reused in the future, and for which we will pay again when buying DW9. Then, they'll create a new moveset and...keep it for DW9 as well. In DW7, new moveset price was what ? 2€ ? Let's make it 4€, 'cause it has to fit the character perfectly ! But...they will have to pay some voice actor for both DW8 & DW9. Anyway, they already added text lines in some DLC stages in the past. Then...Cheng Pu arrives on the PSN. (for 10€/15€) People will buy him, no matter the cost. And they will pay for him again when buying DW9, which will need way less work on him, 'cause the character would have already been done. However, is the character is not a wanted one, some won't buy him, and it could be a waste... But for the players, having important characters as DLC is not good at all. Because, obviously, those won't have any shining moment in the story. Hope you got my point. |
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| BryllTheRed | Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:34 am Post #159 |
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Trust... I get where you're coming from. I'm the one that initially suggested it. As you can see though, there are those here that are against it. For whatever their reasons may be. I didn't say that they wouldn't benefit from, just that it was up to them to decide if they would. Only say that because I am unaware of how the majority of the fanbase would feel about it. Regardless of how I may feel about it. I've been saying the same thing about weapons, you have those that think it would "ruin the surprise." lol... Me personally, as a fan, I intend to show as much support as I can. So if they did characters, I wouldn't "dodge" them. I thought about all the possibilities you mentioned before I posted about it back when this thread was started. Not everyone thinks outside the box though. Hats off to you garnix... You get it. Overall DLC boils down to a choice. Choose to buy it or don't, so whatever gets "ruined" is really at the players expense. With that in mind... Again if they ever did it, I'd support. Just see it as unlikely... Though if fotns2 is doing it????.... Good points.
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| garnix | Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:48 am Post #160 |
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However, FotNS2 have something the DW series doesn't have : UNPC. But in my opinion, considering the fact Omega Force has been able to replace generic characters in DW7E, UNPC are not needed. Even if some here think they are. I personnaly think DLC characters are getting more chances right now. - Nobody more to declone - A mode where you can recruit over 700 different officers. - DW8 being purchasable on the store, thus probably making XL a DLC. This last point is actually quite interesting. What is the point of releasing new characters in a huge DLC like XL, when you are able to sell them separately. You could then earn money from both DLC characters, and DLC XL. And obviously, XL price doesn't depend on the characters included in. |
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| BryllTheRed | Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:54 am Post #161 |
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You know... I never even thought about the mode and the 700 characters. The "last point" you mentioned.. Is another point I've been mentioning for awhile as well. No one bites on it though, guess they aren't really considering it a possibility. If it is indeed turned into dlc indefinitely, then I agree with you 100% that we will see characters as dlc. Selling the characters separate is a wise move as well. Again, good points. |
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| Ryō Genken | Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:56 am Post #162 |
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@garnix: But with the current weapon switch system,one would think it's better to go for the weapon instead of the characters, it takes a lot of energy to make one new character... If it's SW series which has no weapon switch system, probability of DLC characters is high.. but since weapon switch system is implemented i think it's better to release it as a weapon instead of a character...to me the characters can come much more later.. But again we're talking about business and money making..so i think it might happen... Edited by Ryō Genken, Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:57 am.
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| Skode | Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:51 am Post #163 |
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Damned good question too... i always invest in the DLC within reason because it enchances the experience for me - last time that was all stage DLC, the weapons and cossies too as support to koei more than anything else but stopped at the backgrounds. Truthfully though now ive got 23 - maybe 24 NEW movesets from what im used to coming in DW8 i would actually prefer they keep the DLC weapons back as something new to experience in XL. Its the gameplay that keeps us hooked... experiencing Bao Sanniang and that moveset for the first time was something else, it helped me accept her character more actually - would i have approved of her inclusion quite so much if she was just a new face taking a DLC weapon i had already used dozens of times perhaps not. Costumes, stages, BGM and weapon skins... still plenty to see and invest in should koei not do DLC weapons but despite my feelings about wanting them retained in not gonna pretend i wouldnt download them if they do release some more. |
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| PeJ | Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:29 pm Post #164 |
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My wishes about DLC : I suppiose new characters will come in XL so 1 - New weapon / moveset Some one there speak about other Koei games weapons. So I do think it would be a great idea. Hayabusa move set (katana, luanr staff ...) 2 - New costume I want strikeforce costume back 3 - New mode |
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| BryllTheRed | Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:00 pm Post #165 |
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Ah.. I see where you are coming from with it and understand. I wouldn't mind them for XL. If XL doesn't become dlc. Edited by BryllTheRed, Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:12 am.
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| Metakirby | Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:52 pm Post #166 |
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Caw mode! And some characters like Yu Jin, Cheng Pu; Yan Liang... |
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| Erminaz | Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:53 am Post #167 |
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As I already said on the main DW8 discussion page, I'm quite anti-dlc and I wish that Koei would put extra costumes and stuff in already as unlockable content instead of giving us the bare minimum. But oh well, this is Koei and its PS3, so there absolutely will be DLC. Also already mentioned what weapons I think I'd like to see, but the main ones are Zhou Yu's old sword and Yueying's bowgun as returning weapons. Costumes-wise, more of the same, its always nice to see some of the past costumes in there. For original costumes in this game, I think it would be good to have a modern theme. I know the DW7 school outfits were modern, but I mean a more general modern theme with what each character, going on their personality and role, would probably wear today in an everyday situation. A few possibilities; Cao Cao - really slick looking suit, businessman look Guan Yu - Bouncer or bodyguard suit Sun Shangxiang - edgy hipster-ish look Ma Chao - Policeman uniform Lu Bu - tough gangster Xiaoqiao - raver/ party look It should also be taken further so that character's hairstyles are also made to look more modern if they look out-dated in their default DW8 costume, for most characters this isn't an issue but for the men with longer hair or anyone with really traditional hairstyles then it is. It would be great too if ROTK, Kessen 2 or Dynasty Tactics outfits were downloadable for every character that appeared in those games. Stages - more past stages like what were downloadable in DW7. |
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| Lu Tzu | Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:58 am Post #168 |
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I donno if you were talking to me or red but what I mean by lesser characters is someone like Cheng Pu (not that hes not important thats not what i mean by lesser), I didnt mean someone like Li Ru. Cheng Pu wouldn't have to have a lot of dialog and they wouldn't have to pay the voice actor as much like someone who would do a lot of dialog like Sima Zhao. He would be easy to add in and yeah they would bank off it. However adding someone with more importance and a big story is dumb and not beneficial. Just wanted to clear myself up haha |
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| BryllTheRed | Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:19 am Post #169 |
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Well this thread sort of died huh? The new mode actually has me hoping to fully customize the town as I see fit, and it sounds close but not quite there. However I would really like to see some dlc geared towards the mode in the form of adding different types of architecture, just for the fun of it. I'm sure I wouldn't get the reactions I'm hoping for out of the emperor though. Like if you invited him to a place that looks like a peasant village. lol... Also would like to see them continue to do their in-house created unpc's and allow them to visit the town if you chose to download them. |
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| Lu Tzu | Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:37 am Post #170 |
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"their in-house created unpc's " Do you mean like what they did for Dynasty warriors 7:Empires (Ma Teng, Xun Yu, Zhang Chunhua)? |
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| BryllTheRed | Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:47 am Post #171 |
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yeppers they could add in things like that to make things interesting in a way I guess. |
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| Lu Tzu | Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:10 am Post #172 |
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That would be pretty sweet, it would def make things more interesting rather then having the 200+ same looking dudes |
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| Mark Robin | Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:24 am Post #173 |
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Sounds interesting and I'm in. However, it might take some part at a time since fans go crazy for their favorite characters .
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| BryllTheRed | Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:39 am Post #174 |
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Yeah I think it may help guys like Yu Jin a bit. Since he is absent, it's just going to feel a bit weird with Wei's 5 "almost" complete. Could help the wait I suppose. Of course people are going to want to see their fav guy in... But I think this could help the polls at least. Probably would heighten speculation a bit too I imagine. |
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| garnix | Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:52 am Post #175 |
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It could have been great, if they just took the most downloaded Yu Jin DW7E caw to make him unique in DW8, and made the exact same thing for most NPCs. But well, Yu Jin is probably not a good exemple in my opinion. I'm quite sure he will make his way in DW8 somehow. (XL? DLC?) Off topic, Speaking about it, I hope DW8XL will give more characters than DW7XL. 'cause in DW7XL, they give 3 characters, but 6 weapons. If they just give 3 characters in DW8XL, we will just have 3 weapons... And I so much want the Wu AND Wei roster to go up a bit. They both have three characters less than Shu. |
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Overall DLC boils down to a choice. Choose to buy it or don't, so whatever gets "ruined" is really at the players expense. With that in mind... Again if they ever did it, I'd support. Just see it as unlikely... Though if fotns2 is doing it????.... Good points.





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