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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
Topic Started: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:21 am (358,604 Views)
NigelCollins24
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Ryoreiki
Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:22 pm
Zillion
Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:54 pm
Ryoreiki
Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:33 pm
My point....

Even though KOEI is adding weapons, I'll say that I'm strongly against it if KOEI doesn't intend on making them for new characters. You're point was that weapons can be in without an owner. If that's the case then people shouldn't have complained at all about some character sharing the same weapons. "Weapons for the sake of weapons" just contradicts that whole "every character should have their own weapon" goal altogether that KOEI worked so hard on achieving.

But I already know that these weapons will be for future new characters anyways. Making a weapon and moveset is much easier than making a character and integrating them into the game with a role, voice, and personality, especially after they finished the main story in this game.
I get that people don't want Koei to be "too wasteful" but there is such a thing as being too thrifty as well...not that you or anyone is doing that yet but we're getting awfully close to that line of thought. This'll most likely be the last DW game this gen, next gen consoles are very different architecturally - why not have Koei experiment with weapon DLC now while they still can? I don't think they'll be able to simply translate things over like they did from DW7 to DW8.

"junk weapon" DLC might, if nothing else, add some replay value for a lot of people.
So what if KOEI decides to make some heavy changes in DW9, in that same vain as DW6. Then what?

Besides, updated graphics, but little to no changes, can only do so much for a series, especially this one where the main focus is on the characters and the story mode (which is also the same but small changes), or else people wouldn't even be making a fuss over who should or shouldn't be a unique character in the first place.

There's no common ground if 1. People want their faves to be unique, and 2. People want them decloned, and 3. The majority of the West hates this series for a reason, because it isn't Call of Duty, or Madden and KOEI is having a hard time resolving that. At least Jin being included helped DW7.
If they update the graphics I will want it to look like Skyrim or Assassins Creed's graphics.
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Ryō Genken
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I've found the bigger image...YUan looks more like a plumber to me now than a military officer..and Dun looks more like a pilot to me.
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Yuan looks like militia, whereas Xiahou Dun looks like a legit general. I like it.

Zhenji's nurse outfit isn't terrible...cept those shoes. AMIRITE!?

She looks like a WW2 battlefield nurse lady. I don't hate it, but she ain't Lianshi.
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NigelCollins24
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All Cao Pi, Zhen Ji, Xiahou Dun, Xiahou Yuan look like hospital people with a mix of the military people hahahah.
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Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:18 am
Yuan looks like militia, whereas Xiahou Dun looks like a legit general. I like it.

Zhenji's nurse outfit isn't terrible...cept those shoes. AMIRITE!?

She looks like a WW2 battlefield nurse lady. I don't hate it, but she ain't Lianshi.
That's the problem, what Lianshi had on is what Zhen Ji should have had something similar to. The nurse outift isn't ugly at all but it is very plain for a nurse outfit. She doesn't even have on white stockings or gloves or any symbols on her outfit either.
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NigelCollins24
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What does Lian Shi have on Zhen Ji and Cai WenJi are just sexy. Koei just comes up with funny and good crazy stuff.
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Samurai warriors may copy Dynasty warriors`s weapons as well as on the contrary, but they should have different movesets.
Oh... I want crossbow for Xu Sheng so badly :/ , and flamberg for Cheng Pu, Zhu Ran, Zhu Huan... whatever.
Edited by WarHawk, Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:26 am.
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NigelCollins24
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Cheng Pu should just keep his serpent spear and Zhu Ran should go with a bow and arrow different from Huang Zhong and Xiahou Yuan.
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Mark Robin
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So many possible theory, however one will be solved... Well, I can say that the dlc weapons might be part of the Empires planned or new characters. WarHawk, that sounds good idea so far.
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Zillion
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:22 pm
So what if KOEI decides to make some heavy changes in DW9, in that same vain as DW6. Then what?
I'm almost certain that's what is gonna happen. Correct me if I'm wrong but DW6 was Koei's first DW game on this gen of consoles, so they had to build the new engine from scratch with that game. That part of it will be out-of-the-way of DW9 since SW4 is presumably coming out before it, but they'll still have to rebuild other stuff. I think that + perhaps not going for mocap this time + not rushing the game out (like you said, the series has been struggling somewhat in the west, especially in the NA market. Hopefully that's motivation enough for them to slow down a little on releases) should be enough for them to keep all characters unique. We might end up with fewer new characters though (or perhaps none at all), which I imagine they would try to offset by trying some new stuff gameplay-wise.
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Mark Robin
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Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:14 pm
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:22 pm
So what if KOEI decides to make some heavy changes in DW9, in that same vain as DW6. Then what?
I'm almost certain that's what is gonna happen. Correct me if I'm wrong but DW6 was Koei's first DW game on this gen of consoles, so they had to build the new engine from scratch with that game. That part of it will be out-of-the-way of DW9 since SW4 is presumably coming out before it, but they'll still have to rebuild other stuff. I think that + perhaps not going for mocap this time + not rushing the game out (like you said, the series has been struggling somewhat in the west, especially in the NA market. Hopefully that's motivation enough for them to slow down a little on releases) should be enough for them to keep all characters unique. We might end up with fewer new characters though (or perhaps none at all), which I imagine they would try to offset by trying some new stuff gameplay-wise.
Well it mostly depends, though. Because they change everything from scratch, there was some issue like cloning characters and moveset is either over power or not. I mean taking time is one thing, but balancing the weapons and AI is consider needed for most if they want to make the game interesting, similar to Dynasty Warrior 4. I think that time it was perfect and if they do like that, then it will make the good sale.
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I am dying to see what these weapons look like! Im pretty sure this new bow will be the blade bow, as there isnt really another type of bow to add which isnt in the game aha.

I dont know why but I imagine this new sword to be like Dong Zhuo's DW5 era sword, basically a giant steak knife.

I guess we just have to play the waiting.
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Mark Robin
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Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:41 pm
I am dying to see what these weapons look like! Im pretty sure this new bow will be the blade bow, as there isnt really another type of bow to add which isnt in the game aha.

I dont know why but I imagine this new sword to be like Dong Zhuo's DW5 era sword, basically a giant steak knife.

I guess we just have to play the waiting.
Same. I like to see it. As for the weapon, I don't imagine with Dong Zhuo's weapon.... but I do imagine as Sun Quan's DW6 Weapon... or maybe this?
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1pvgbEVP81r6ggk2.jpg

As for the bow... I think it's old school weapon with new feature weapon.
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The sword could be anything, just because its named 'blaze' doesnt mean it will be anything to do with what google says it is...it is Koei making this weapon remember..haha

Not really bothered as to what the sword actually is, Im tired and bored of swords now. The Bow type weapon is something to get excited about IMO...
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True, but you never know what weapon can be feature, but we don't what type of swords :whistle:

Serious though, bow is bit ran out of ideas since Xiahou Yuan's new weapon got me.
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Of course there is only so much you can do with a bow too, but they've really exhausted what they can do with a sword dont you think?

All thats left is the blade bow, off the top of my head & thats hopefully the direction they're going in.
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Mark Robin
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Same with the sword... I have no idea when they ran out of ideas...

If the blade bow is back, then it's going to be tough debate for Yueying's weapon. I still think that blade bow should go to new characters...
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I think its best saved for a new character, although I preferred Yue Ying with the bladebow Im not a massive fan of switching characters weapons back and forth every installment if you get me?

I think the bladebow would suit either a woman or a strategist, just have to wait and see what the weapon actually is.

EDIT - Another point, I hope these DLC weapons have their own icon, not the stupid 'DLC' sword icon...put some effort in.
Edited by Averryy, Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:50 pm.
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I feel you about the weapon switch. Few might like and few might not, but I'm good with it, as long it can make people happy with it and/or bring out good weapons.

I think strategist could work, too. The question, who? Xun Yu Chen Gong? Who knows.

Edit: I feel that way, too. I don't want to defend them, but as the gamer, you got to say that it's tight schedule that is causing them. Let's hope that they draw the weapon and set it word DLC with it. I'm okay with that one.
Edited by Mark Robin, Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:52 pm.
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We'll just have to wait and see I guess with the icons and the actual weapons I guess...

Im glad they announced the DLC weapons, I was beginning to lose hope the last couple of weeks. I wonder how many they'll do this time and Im glad they arent focusing on declonning the current roster, thats I what I think they were basing the DW7 DLC weapons on.

In DW8 they can go as mad as they want with the weapon choices, which is a really good thing. A lot of freedom this time around
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Same with the DLC Weapons announce, we are going to have massive messages and posting on Youtube, etc. It's going to be one heck of the promising.
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Tbh i dont think zhenji's outfit is terrible those shoes are ok to me too. Well she is a nurse and a nurse outfit is usually plain white...
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Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that they give Zhenji, who is like a walking sex pun, a nurse outfit and then make it rather non-sexy, she looks like a normal nurse (with a over sized flute of course)
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Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that they give Zhenji, who is like a walking sex pun, a nurse outfit and then make it rather non-sexy, she looks like a normal nurse (with a over sized flute of course)
Nope, you're not the only one. It's actually ironic. Perfectly ironic. Zhenji gets to be the battleaxe nurse.
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Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that they give Zhenji, who is like a walking sex pun, a nurse outfit and then make it rather non-sexy, she looks like a normal nurse (with a over sized flute of course)
I'm thinking maybe it's a bit of foreshadowing that she would get such an outfit (Cai Wenji's is arguably more revealing than hers). Considering that they are seemingly making her a bit nicer and wholesome and not as bitchy in a subtle fashion. I'm thinking they're making way for the inclusionof Guo (Nu)Wang but I doubt it'll actually happen unless they're really desperate for Wei female adds.
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