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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
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BryllTheRed
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garnix
Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:52 am
It could have been great, if they just took the most downloaded Yu Jin DW7E caw to make him unique in DW8, and made the exact same thing for most NPCs.
But well, Yu Jin is probably not a good exemple in my opinion.
I'm quite sure he will make his way in DW8 somehow. (XL? DLC?)

Off topic,
Speaking about it, I hope DW8XL will give more characters than DW7XL.
'cause in DW7XL, they give 3 characters, but 6 weapons.
If they just give 3 characters in DW8XL, we will just have 3 weapons...
And I so much want the Wu AND Wei roster to go up a bit.
They both have three characters less than Shu.
I'd be game for more characters... Definitely. 3 Wu, 3 Jin lol... I doubt that happens, but may 4-5 would be cool.

Wei-Yu Jin
Wu - Zhu Ran
- Xu Sheng
- Wu Guotai/Cheng Pu (or omit this line)
Oth- (insert whoever?)

I would say thats off topic but technically it isn't seeing how... XL may become a DLC upgrade.
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BryllTheRed
Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:14 am
garnix
Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:52 am
It could have been great, if they just took the most downloaded Yu Jin DW7E caw to make him unique in DW8, and made the exact same thing for most NPCs.
But well, Yu Jin is probably not a good exemple in my opinion.
I'm quite sure he will make his way in DW8 somehow. (XL? DLC?)

Off topic,
Speaking about it, I hope DW8XL will give more characters than DW7XL.
'cause in DW7XL, they give 3 characters, but 6 weapons.
If they just give 3 characters in DW8XL, we will just have 3 weapons...
And I so much want the Wu AND Wei roster to go up a bit.
They both have three characters less than Shu.
I'd be game for more characters... Definitely. 3 Wu, 3 Jin lol... I doubt that happens, but may 4-5 would be cool.

Wei-Yu Jin
Wu - Zhu Ran
- Xu Sheng
- Wu Guotai/Cheng Pu (or omit this line)
Oth- (insert whoever?)

I would say thats off topic but technically it isn't seeing how... XL may become a DLC upgrade.
That would be best KOEI game ever if they have such dlc, :whistle: but unlikely though. Having Yu Jin as dlc, Cheng Pu|Xu Sheng|Zhu Ran, and maybe Chen Tai is a way easier than have some advisor or fem. character. I`m okay if these guys do not appear frequenlty, and in story mode just got several unique phrases, and that`d be deal. I`m absolutely fine with it, not everyone could shine from the beginning, but some stong addition such as Yu Jin is highly valuable anytime.
p.s. (yeay! for more Xu Sheng supporters :hehe: )
Edited by WarHawk, Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:47 am.
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Lu Tzu
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I agree they could at least do 20-50 characters UNPC (Im sure they could do this easily) and Yu Jin and Cheng Pu, Xu Sheng, Zhu Ran would be some of them I'd like to see get in. I love getting new characters lol but 6 in XL? I doubt it but it could happen, I'd like 3 wu and 3 jin as well or 3 wu 2 wei 1 other
As for the other I would go with Chen Gong?
Edited by Lu Tzu, Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:52 am.
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I'm actually down for 4 adds... I think a strong suit for xl could look better like this
**XL**
Yu Jin
Xu Sheng
Zhu Ran
Chen Gong/Liu Biao (could be replaced with Jin add in Chen Tai)

**Empires**
Xun Yu <--- I seriously think this is where this guy fits. Or any strategist really, but his inclusion would make Wei fans happy I'm sure. But if I had my way... Insert Jiang Qin lol... Maybe Zhang Zhao. Then I'd be greedy I suppose.

But yeah Warhawk.. I just think Xu Sheng and Zhu Ran add more to the story right now for wu, over Cheng Pu. I think Pu's and Zhu Zhi addition can wait now. The more I think about it. Maybe even major for dw9... But for 8... We need those 2 in Wu, imo.

One primary reason, although minor.. Just think its great to start here with a early relationship with Quan establishing himself. I hate to quote wiki but...
Xu Sheng

Just that introduction alone... That's before we mention any accomplishments. I just think Quan's story would benefit from this guy a lot. Him and Zhou Tai really. Bring him on I say. And Ran... Pretty much a childhood friend of Quan's

Zhu Ran
Edited by BryllTheRed, Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:37 am.
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Lu Tzu
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Cheng Pu could be saved for 9 since hes a popular add. The leaker said something about 2 highly requested generals would be in XL so maybe they will have poll for DW8XL then add in two of their own or one. It doesnt really matter for me who gets into wu cause I like them all, i believe the top 4 in Japan where BK posted it was Cheng Pu>Lu Kang>Xu Sheng>Zhuge Jin>Zhu Ran I think someone said ZHu Ran was 5th I cant remember. Xun Yu would be a good add for empires hence the whole strategy thing. Zhu Ran Xu Sheng and Zhou Tai would be interesting. They both served under Zhou Tai for awhile so I could see them added together.
Edited by Lu Tzu, Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:35 am.
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BryllTheRed
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Guess it could go either way. They didn't say who the wanted adds would be lol.. So until it's confirmed... I'm pulling for those 2 for XL over Cheng Pu. Though to any Cheng Pu fan out there, no worries... I'm not against him, I actually want him. Just looking at the bigger picture... He really can wait, even though he has for awhile. Just at this particular point and time... Xu Sheng and Zhu Ran bring more, imo. If I could have Xu Sheng, Zhu Ran, and Jiang Qin in wu.. After that I'm happy with whoever. lol I'm not primarily picky about adds, but I've gotten a bit hyped about these guys recently for some reason.
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Ive been wondering about XL and if it could maybe take the SW2XL approach to being compatable DLC with the vanilla game ie download it and play it via DW8, all the characters and story modes from both games in one place.

Any NPCs such as Cheng Pu who appear as playables in the newer version would replace their older NPC models in the older games battles - this would be awesome, i really dont care for the disc swapping nonscence myself personally and DLC would be a great way to get XL out and about without worrying about transport and shipping costs.

Also wonder about outright DLC charcters given the discussion about UNPCs which has gone on here recently... if Zuo Ci for example didnt make it but was announced as DLC would you guys approve - he is the kind of character who wouldnt have to feature in the story at all, he could just seamlessly appear and be usable on his own right - kind of like DW Gundam 3 added characters.
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My XL wishlist will depends on DW8 roster.
Cause yeah, I still have some hope for Others characters.
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About XL, I think it isn't a half-bad idea for making it as a DLC but might as well considering them as an unlockable content in the disc.

Also, what I wanted is Fairytale and Original outfit DLCs for the new DW8 characters. They might rework the DW7 characters' DLC costumes as skins and make it free, though I'd say the chances are slim.

Imagine how awesome would be the Original costumes for the new characters...
(hot secretary mama Chunhua, aww yisss)
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:12 pm
Imagine how awesome would be the Original costumes for the new characters...
(hot secretary mama Chunhua, aww yisss)
Lifeguard Han Dang for the win :lol:
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:42 pm
Ive been wondering about XL and if it could maybe take the SW2XL approach to being compatable DLC with the vanilla game ie download it and play it via DW8, all the characters and story modes from both games in one place.

Any NPCs such as Cheng Pu who appear as playables in the newer version would replace their older NPC models in the older games battles - this would be awesome, i really dont care for the disc swapping nonscence myself personally and DLC would be a great way to get XL out and about without worrying about transport and shipping costs.

Also wonder about outright DLC charcters given the discussion about UNPCs which has gone on here recently... if Zuo Ci for example didnt make it but was announced as DLC would you guys approve - he is the kind of character who wouldnt have to feature in the story at all, he could just seamlessly appear and be usable on his own right - kind of like DW Gundam 3 added characters.
Yeah, hopefully they'll do it this game, instead of having to switch discs. It'd really be nice to be able to just install XL, then have all the content be downloaded to the main DW8 engine. The only problem however, would be if they're not in English dub and would be DL only.

Despite the positives of adding DLC characters, I'm actually pretty against them. The main reason for this is that if they're added, they most likely won't get anything involved with story mode ( besides DLC stages. ) Something like this yes, could work for Empires but I don't think the main game. Not to mention if they added the likes of Yu Jin, Cheng Pu, Liao Hua as DLC, they'd not have all the strong character additions for XL, Empires, or DW9.

The only ones I'd approve as DLC possibly would be the Others since they don't have a story mode. I would love them and would grab them up. Although, I personally hope for XL they make it a Wu and Other oriented XL and Empires. Wei and Shu have had their turns. As much as I want a Wu/Others oriented XL ( Much like DW3 XL. ) I'm inclined to believe we'll get Yu Jin, Cheng Pu, and a female at least.
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A lot of good points here.. lol'd at secretary Chunhua and lifeguard Han Dang.

@garnix the more the merrier I guess.. We find out in the next major batch.

@Ona Hei I understand where you're coming from.. But it's all a matter of how the game is coded. I'm sure that if koei is planning to go this route, then they have considered this. Games like Mass Effect 3 (not a good example for characters. Javik was on disc) among others are adding to their stories with either character dlc's or just overall campaign dlc without it being on disc prior to the content releasing. Whereas something like this sounds difficult, it isn't impossible. So it really depends on koei's approach, their heart seems in the right place with the idea. If they are willing to commit, as much as we have heard, then I imagine they fully understand what they need to do to make it effective. It's worth a shot and maybe a 2nd chance to give them a shot at getting it right. For them to grow with the industry they must try and be given the chance too. Too early to be against it really, if the idea completely bombs then yeah... I'm right there with you. Again good points. ;)
Edited by BryllTheRed, Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:19 pm.
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:47 am
Guess it could go either way. They didn't say who the wanted adds would be lol.. So until it's confirmed... I'm pulling for those 2 for XL over Cheng Pu. Though to any Cheng Pu fan out there, no worries... I'm not against him, I actually want him. Just looking at the bigger picture... He really can wait, even though he has for awhile. Just at this particular point and time... Xu Sheng and Zhu Ran bring more, imo. If I could have Xu Sheng, Zhu Ran, and Jiang Qin in wu.. After that I'm happy with whoever. lol I'm not primarily picky about adds, but I've gotten a bit hyped about these guys recently for some reason.
Yeap, now my priority is Xu Sheng, Demou could wait, moreover if this guy is accompanied by Zhu Ran|Jiang Qin, than it`s even ten times better, but for me Wenxiang addition is already enough, so if they will add him and someone in other kingdom, I`m completely okay. Having Xu Sheng as dlc would be okay idea, if he looks cool, people buy him anyway. He does not have really as many supporters as Cheng Pu, but I don`t see hatred towards him as well.
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Yeah he may not have the supporters... But his presence has become undeniable I believe. Same with Zhu Ran... Cheng Pu has a nice service record indeed. But so do these guys. Seeing Wu has been behind the other kingdoms with adds... I don't see it as being greedy to at least want 2 adds for Wu in empires. Xu Sheng and Zhu Ran would be my picks... 4 adds would be cool because they could do 2 Wu, 1 Wei, and 1 Jin/Other. Fair enough I believe...

However, I could see koei settling for 2-3 adds again. Because now that the Vanilla version has Commander mode, they will have to think up a few new modes to make an XL title stand out.
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:03 pm
Yeah he may not have the supporters... But his presence has become undeniable I believe. Same with Zhu Ran... Cheng Pu has a nice service record indeed. But so do these guys. Seeing Wu has been behind the other kingdoms with adds... I don't see it as being greedy to at least want 2 adds for Wu in empires. Xu Sheng and Zhu Ran would be my picks... 4 adds would be cool because they could do 2 Wu, 1 Wei, and 1 Jin/Other. Fair enough I believe...

However, I could see koei settling for 2-3 adds again. Because now that the Vanilla version has Commander mode, they will have to think up a few new modes to make an XL title stand out.
I don`t see Zhu Huan in your wishlist, but he`s actually may work. In terms of addition, he is as arguable as Cao Zhen, starting lately and have only several battles (3-4) compare to other generals, so yeah, he`s not the best add from all possible, but kinda a decent one. Has noticeable personallity and was highly praised by Lu Xun. So his steges are Yi Ling, Dong Kou, Shi Ting, and He Fei castle - not really much to offer, but still he could start at Ru Xu Kou or He Fei. Why I suggest Zhu Huan? well he seems like someone who is mostly underrated and people not notice him often, had not a big importance in history, so it will be easier for KOEI add someone like him as dlc character.
Have nothing against his cousin Zhu Ran, moreover I like him, but I think he`s on the contrary overrated hero.
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I like Zhu Huan, Jiang Qin, Xu Sheng, and Zhu Ran but not all of them are needed now, thats like Cheng Pu's and Zhu Zhi's situation right now, we have Han Dang and Huang Gai we don't need them atm. If Xu Sheng and Zhu Ran are added then the other two can wait (But to be honest it wouldnt bother if they were just not the best choice). I dont see why Zhu Ran hasnt been added yet though, he dies in 249 hes a good add for mid-late wu. The Zhu family is very talented though, Zhu Zhi, Zhu Ran, Zhu Huan, Zhu Yi. I know he may not be a favorite but I'd like to see Cao Hong as the Wei add even though people want Yu Jin

But for Zuo Ci as DLC that might not be a bad idea since he doesnt have a roll, but another great DLC character I think they could bank off of would be Chen Gong. They could really just change a few lines and throw him in there.
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I'm curious to see what 4 adds you 2 would pick then. Have a go at it... As we know, wu is playing catch up roster wise at the moment. Wei has been treated fairly well here recently... 2 adds, 1 returning in last XL basically gave them +3.. Then they just got 2 solid adds in Yue Jin and Li Dian. Shu acquired +4 including Xu Shu, leaving Wu with only Lu Su and Han Dang. Which are both solid in their own merit. I at least thought with the 4 I chose, I wasn't being biased. If so, they'd all be Wu adds... Chose those 2 because of their service record, relationships, and because I felt they would be good adds for a XL game. Not really basing my adds on "who would fit as dlc" at the moment. Lol if we are talking dlc adds based on someone with little to no story then.... I guess Hua Xiong has a chance afterall. But yeah, 4 adds.... Go. :hehe:
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For some reason I dont think they will mix adds in XL but if they do.
Zhu Ran, Xu Sheng, Man Chong(Xun Yu), Yu Jin(Cao Hong) that would put Shu 21 Wu 20 Wei 20

I only think they will do 2-3 adds though so with that
Xu Sheng, Zhu Ran, Zhuge Jin just because I dont think they will add three warrior types in
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My top 4 Wu adds are probably Zhuge Ke, Zhu Ran, Cheng Pu, and Xu Sheng. I really want Koei to focus on late-era Wu even though not all of my selections were late-era. I really want Koei to close the gap from Shu's demise until the end. For that, we would need a few late-era Wu characters and a few more late Jin characters like Sima Yan. After that, I wouldn't be too worried about late adds and I wouldn't mind Koei's focus on the middle-era.
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I thought about that too... "Would they actually mix them this time?" I doubt they will, I think they'd benefit from it if they did. 2-3 may indeed end up being the sweet spot, but I only chose 4 because of how things are looking right now. Commander mode is a lot like Legend mode. Or at least that's where I feel the idea came from.. It's like they just took it and added a twist to it. Meaning XL is going to need a few things working in it's favor to help it feel different. Both you and Jared chose some good guys though.. I wonder... Will they add Zhuge Jin? I know he is popular... I know they have other choices though. I wouldn't mind his add, they are focused on shu-wu relations atm. I think they could get someone better.
Edited by BryllTheRed, Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:27 am.
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My top 4 Wu adds are probably Zhuge Ke, Zhu Ran, Cheng Pu, and Xu Sheng. I really want Koei to focus on late-era Wu even though not all of my selections were late-era. I really want Koei to close the gap from Shu's demise until the end. For that, we would need a few late-era Wu characters and a few more late Jin characters like Sima Yan. After that, I wouldn't be too worried about late adds and I wouldn't mind Koei's focus on the middle-era.
I agree that Late Wu really needs some love but since they haven't gone past 264 people like Sun Hao(who didnt take the thrown until 264) Zhang Ti, Cen Hun arent needed atm. Lu Kang, Zhuge Ke, Zhu Yi, Tang Zi, Sun Luban (I may have forgot some other good adds if so please state) are probably the ones that would fit the best right now for late wu. And early Wu stills has MANY solid adds lol

@BrylltheRed I dont care for Zhuge Jin Im just being biased off what Bk posted. I'd rather have Zhuge Ke****** but if people would be happy with early wu after XL then I would go with
Xu Sheng, Zhu Ran, Cheng Pu, Jiang Qin
Edited by Lu Tzu, Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:36 am.
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NOW YA TALKIN :XD j/k you were right though... We could use another strategist. They will most likely pick one too. I didn't think about one when I was listing. Was thinking more along the lines of developing Quan and Zhou tai a bit. Good Show...

Don't really know who else I'd pick at the moment. Like you said, there are so many good adds left.
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Lol I would be happy if it worked out that way then I completely forgot about the girl they will probably add ehhh. If they do the XL poll thing again I'm gonna vote 100 times which you probably can't.

The thing about two highly requested generals for XL I bet if say Yu Jin (example) ends up being number 1 they will probably take two wei character so if it went like this 1.Yu Jin 2. Cheng Pu 3. Xun Yu...5.Man Chong (Just example) it would probably be Yu Jin and Man Chong or any other wei character that made it into the top 10. "Highly requested" doesnt have to mean #1 and #2 all top 10 characters are highly requested haha hope I made since.

And as for Hua Xiong being DLC as much as I hate the notion of him being playable, it would be a great idea for Koei, boom 3 lines hes in
Edited by Lu Tzu, Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:56 am.
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Lol noooooooooo... Not Xiong. I really hope that doesn't happen. Not that I'll rage or anything, just would prefer them to stick to bringing in more interesting adds and elements of the time period.

Yue Jin and Man Chong would be cool.
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Lol i would hate it if you look at the "Characters Not Wanted in the game" you'll see me raging in there about how I hate Hua Xiong, Yan Liang, and Wen Chou. I'm only for interesting adds. For some reason I dont think there going to do a poll again. I just have a feeling its going to be Wu adds this time (possibly Jin...maybe wei). They have been ignored really since 4
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