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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
Topic Started: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:21 am (358,594 Views)
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Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:52 pm
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Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:50 pm
but Huang also never had bombs in his weapon arsenal in past games
You clearly forgot about DW3-5 then lol.
Main weapon then (which I believe was the club and sheild).

@Skode: I sort of see what you mean, but I still stand by that we have to face that some of the movesets just aren't comparable to the newer buffed ones that came out this game. There is a clear disconnect between old sets from before and newer tweaked ones. And yes its another dao, and I can't stand that many swords in the game that are placed on main characters, but for the sake of argument, who the hell would the Blaze Sword go to if not Quan? Chen Gong? Xun Yu? My guess is someone in Wu (hopefully) but it would just be weird to see a lower character have a completely buffed rendition of Quan's old weapon, while Quan has an arguably weaker dao.
They made a sword, so its healthy to assume that its going to someone whether we like another sword or not, might as well go to the proper owner.
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Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:54 pm
Baffling how everyone (well the same clique anyway haha) are on about "decloning" Sun Quan because he is boring for having the Dao. I like the Dao moveset myself and dont mind him having it - i just dont understand the mass need for him to lose it yet no is moaning how Lui Bei is stuck with the same old tired moveset... is he also not "important".

Heck hes practically the main character of the novels for most of it, i assume this is simply because he doesnt have generics running about with twin swords... the whole generics shouldnt have the playable character weapons is the lamest argument ive seen around here since the free mode "clones" debate. It truly is such a non issue i cant believe were even still discussing it - as i said already the new weapons should go on the new characters. NO ONE ill wager would be amused at the prospect of buying XL just to play a new character with a moveset theyve already used many times over in past games already.

Still once upon a time many of the faces you see around here were ranting about how there was too many swords... now they cant wait for old characters to get new swords - KW can be a fickle place at the best of times but damn do people have short memories haha.
I'll admit that I've been a little too vocal about him getting a new weapon. But I don't use that lame argument about sharing with generics. I don't mind that at all since it's been this way since DW2. My problem is that the Dao like the other original weapons, were not touched at all to fit the character that they are currently with. I would've been okay if they gave Quan his WO3 charges. But it stayed the same and it was one of the weapons that needed some changes, like the spear which was touched up to fit Ma Chao.

My priorities are different which is why I haven't mentioned the Twin Swords yet, but that moveset is and has always been for Liu Bei. I do think that it could use some changes like that awful C3, but that's about it for me. The Dao is a weapon I feel that needs to addressed because of that bad taste it left in my mouth in DW7.

I hope I'm not one of those that were claiming there were too many swords, because I have enough intelligence to know they can be used different ways and that there are different types of swords. If so, I apologize for being a hypocrite.
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I liked the Dao in 7, it was really good at first, but after all those games with 4 characters using it, it's time for something fresh. If Sun Quan was the solo owner all along then fine, but I personally just find it boring now because it's been completely overused.
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Oh no the self crowned king of KW doesnt agree with us, we should change what we think to make him happy! If we dont how will our lives continue here?

Its what we'd like to see, this is a forum, discussion is what a forum is all about. We're discussing possibilities for this weapon, Id rather it went to Quan but if its saved for a newbie so be it, I wont lose sleep over it and I certainly wont lose sleep over your childish insults towards our 'clique' as you put it.

In all honesty, we're using the evidence that was shown in DW7, DLC weapons were used to declone people, am I right? Its only right that we assume the same this time around, as people are still cloned, not with outher uniques but NPCs, but thats not the point, they're still cloned.

Like it or not I will voice my opinion, as opinions can never be wrong.
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Yue Jin seems to be officially rugby player :
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after all, Xiahou Ba already got american football outfit in DW7

also, funny crime :
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police officer were killed in front of clown and gundam, and another sexy police officer handling a case
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He's got the stocky build for rugby.

I just can't get these occupation costumes. I'm not sure if they are supposed to be themed or what, because you have Yue Jin rugby extraordinaire and then you have generalissimo Cao Cao and Xiahou Dun.
Edited by Lil'Richard, Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:53 pm.
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Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:38 pm
In all honesty, we're using the evidence that was shown in DW7, DLC weapons were used to declone people, am I right? Its only right that we assume the same this time around, as people are still cloned, not with outher uniques but NPCs, but thats not the point, they're still cloned.
And that is where the problem lies.

You're still using DW7 logic. Everyone has effectively been decloned now. It shouldn't matter if any of the generics share weapon types with characters because we aren't able to use them anyways, so why should the developers feel the need to change something due to this one reason?

I'm all for Quan getting a better Ex weapon, but using logic like that to back up this argument is weak. Imo

QZW's argument however, concerning how the original 36 weapon types weren't tweaked to fit their owner's identity like the rest of the weapons is clearly more sound. Again, imo.
Edited by FKA, Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:16 pm.
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Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:53 pm
He's got the stocky build for rugby.

I just can't get these occupation costumes. I'm not sure if they are supposed to be themed or what, because you have Yue Jin rugby extraordinaire and then you have generalissimo Cao Cao and Xiahou Dun.
Really are the worst DLC yet, I can't stand them, I only bought two (Wang Yi and Cai Wenji) I was going to get Li Dian and Zhen but I'd look at them and never use them, the other two I think actually look very nice in their outfits, especially Cai, it will become a permanent wardrobe change in free mode!
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Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:27 am
i actualy thinkg the Dagger-Axe fits Yueying just fine. at first i wasnt sure, but if you think about it, Yueying claims that she trains in the martial arts, as well as making machines. so the idea of her being strong and smart works.

and even if the Twin Fans came back, and why would they go to Xiaoqiao or Daqiao, both of them are already unique and different. I say if the twin fans come back, give them to someone new, maybe even a male character. like Yata from .hack, or Anji from Guilty Gear.
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i just look wearing blaze sword someone ,mabye shana,wraith(using blaze sword),flame swordman or grimlock (animated) and screw bow like motonari mori (SW) bow .Look spoiler

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Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:00 pm
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Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:53 pm
He's got the stocky build for rugby.

I just can't get these occupation costumes. I'm not sure if they are supposed to be themed or what, because you have Yue Jin rugby extraordinaire and then you have generalissimo Cao Cao and Xiahou Dun.
Really are the worst DLC yet, I can't stand them, I only bought two (Wang Yi and Cai Wenji) I was going to get Li Dian and Zhen but I'd look at them and never use them, the other two I think actually look very nice in their outfits, especially Cai, it will become a permanent wardrobe change in free mode!
Cai Wenji clearly takes the cake here. I would buy that for her, the others...meh. It is interesting to see how Koei interpreted their occupations, though some are unclear.
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Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:22 am
Personally I don't think that Koei will CHANGE (not declone since they are unique in that no playable character shares their moveset) the moveset of every character that shares his or her weapon with a generic I just don't see it happening. Although the reason for Quan possibly getting a new weapon is that like on here maybe the JP fanbase also thought that the dao was underwhelming when compared to the other rulers' swords and just to fix that Koei may have decided to give him this. It also doesn't mean that the dao just has to disappear it can as a secondary weapon and maybe it would encourage Koei to capitalize on some the mechanics used Strikeforce which isn't just the secondary weapons. (Sorry if I don't make sense)
It's not that it's not effect, or even flashy, it's just that moveset looks and feels boring as hell. Granted it probably fits Quan as a character, but god is it lame. I still say that Sun Quan should just get his WO3 moveset, all of its charge attacks this time, and be done.
I messed with the Twin Sword Moveset in DW7 Empires, and I will say I have no problems with it. I'm sure it could use a few tweaks (WHY DIDN'T OMEGA FORCE JUST KEEP THE WARRIORS OROCHI 3 MOVESETS!) but it's fine until they decide to update it. I don't really care for the Bow or Club and I'm completely fine with Ma Chao's Spear(STALLION SPEAR IS SO GOOD ON HORSE BACK), though I would like to see what else Koei could do with giving Ma Chao an awesome moveset.

So glad that I saw his DW6 story mode as it made him a much better character rather than being a justice hypocrite who wants revenge.
Edited by Yunglex313, Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:30 pm.
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@ the Blaze Blade:
I have no doubt that this weapon will go to Sun Quan. Just everything points at this. One thing that really disappoints me though, is that chances of him getting his DW6 Sword again is like ZERO now.

@ the Dao:
Usually i'm using the Bow as my secondary all the time. But in DW8 i've so far only used the Dao as my secondary. It's a very handy weapon, especially because of the C6. Means, i'm still not really tired from it :XD . But it needed some changes when it was carried over to DW8. Mainly its C1, C4 and C5.

@ the opinion that the DW7-weapons are all inferior to the newer ones:
While i agree on most of it, every weapon that came later doesn't mean automatically superiority. There are a few newer weapons, which i would put under most of the DW7 era weapons. Like...Zhuge Dan's Baton. Not that great. Wen Yang's Javelin is not that spectacular like i hoped for. Zhang Bao's weapon is not very effective and tbh i'm also not in love with Sima Yi's Whisk. It's an "OK, i will find the use for it."-weapon (for me). But overall i agree with that opinion.

@ KansakUMA and Strikerdes' earlier posts on the unarmed martial-arts:
I too warmed up on Guan Suo getting something like that since a while. One thing i want to say, is that some people say, that the current moveset on him is totally fine since the Nunchuk is a martial-arts weapon where you can use your legs anyway. Bruce Lee comes to mind immediately though. When he has the Nunchuk in his hand, he for 99% fights only with that weapon. So yeah, i think both movesets could be seperated from each other.
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:2up: Awesome job wang yi costume .she like game crossfire and counterstrike female character :2up: and zhang he job costume bases color on joker (actually than purple color and white face)
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@ the Blaze Blade:
I have no doubt that this weapon will go to Sun Quan. Just everything points at this. One thing that really disappoints me though, is that chances of him getting his DW6 Sword again is like ZERO now.
This makes me sad too. That sword was awesome. Maybe they can make Quan a dual wielder of epicness, no? Just kidding because I know SOMEONE's gonna cry foul because of Liu Bei's set.
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@ the Blaze Blade:
I have no doubt that this weapon will go to Sun Quan. Just everything points at this. One thing that really disappoints me though, is that chances of him getting his DW6 Sword again is like ZERO now.

@ KansakUMA and Strikerdes' earlier posts on the unarmed martial-arts:
I too warmed up on Guan Suo getting something like that since a while. One thing i want to say, is that some people say, that the current moveset on him is totally fine since the Nunchuk is a martial-arts weapon where you can use your legs anyway. Bruce Lee comes to mind immediately though. When he has the Nunchuk in his hand, he for 99% fights only with that weapon. So yeah, i think both movesets could be seperated from each other.
Blaze Blade: just hope one of the weapon skin is that dao freom DW6

Suo's being unarmed: But we will have a trouble with the nunchaku. Some people will think here...if Suo gets unarmed MA. You need to find the replacement for the nunchaku. ANd for them the moveset currently fits Suo's more than it should be. We need another guan suo/ling tong in this case...but who..?I just odnt mind it, being removed like some weapon...but i will be killed for that

AStrikerdes: Yue JIn's outfit is just awful in my opinion, he needs to be in undershirt like SUn Ce!(or maybe shirtless... :shifty: )
Ugh..We really need a summer/swimsuit outfit now....wonder why they just cant release it...i mean they already with tecmo who is infamous with DOA...but they cant do it to DW!
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@ KansakUMA:
Like i said a few days ago. Koei needs to change the weapon to DOUBLE Nunchakus and give them to someone like Dong Xi. Decent add and he fought alongside Ling Tong. Doubt that he would ever make it though: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_Xi

@ the new PS3-themes:
I can't get enough of my new Cao Cao theme. He looks boss in it. Little thing i've noticed. Those little pop-up windows on the top right corner, which shows when a friend loggs on/off, has changed a bit in design. It looks like the windows in the DW7/8 game menus.
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Love Yinpings theme, she looks gorgeous! Will be using that for sure (sorry Yuanji)
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Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:10 pm
Love Yinpings theme, she looks gorgeous! Will be using that for sure (sorry Yuanji)
Yuanji? Don't tell me that you still use her DW7 one. I've even forgotten how it looks like.
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Haha yes I do!
I will feel so bad changing it, Yuanjis beautiful eyes!
If Yuanji got one I would use that, so I'll wait and see if more are announced.
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OMG Cao Cao's theme is freaking badass! I think I'll play my PS3 more often now! Love it so much! :drool:
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How do i get the PS3 themes????

Do i need a japanese PSN?
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I am loving the PS3 themes! Love Xiahou Ba's! really really cute!!

I wouldnt mind him as a friend! I can just imagine him saying 'AYAYAYYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA' all day lmao.

The Yinping one is so cute as well, move along Yuanji, shes taking your place!
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How do i get the PS3 themes????

Do i need a japanese PSN?
What I did is go to http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/smusou7/enquete/ with my PS3 and then download the themes. Then just simply set them at the Themes Settings.
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Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:48 pm
I am loving the PS3 themes! Love Xiahou Ba's! really really cute!!

I wouldnt mind him as a friend! I can just imagine him saying 'AYAYAYYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA' all day lmao.

The Yinping one is so cute as well, move along Yuanji, shes taking your place!
Bless.
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So Wei got perhaps if I'm right police force huh?

If that is so all I see in Li Dian is this now->

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCFVEvZvo3g

Perhaps he is like Doyle, lols, both have wispy hair?

Nice to see some variation on away though and having clashing personalities for the circus theme, that is what makes that theme good in the sense we have a narcissistic, a very kind person and a sly guy running around in a circus.
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