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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
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I think Zhou Yu's old sword could go to a new female character when we get one. They'd just need to tweak it to have as much power as the newer weapons but I think Wu Guotai would look pretty cool with a sword :P
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Personally I think we need to explore other kinds of weapons besides swords. There are too damn many of them.

We have the Rapiers, the twins swords, what Sima Zhao's sword is, the Podao, the Sword and Hook, the conjoined swords, the general sword, THE DAMN GREAT SWORD, ENOUGH SWORDS, PUT A DIFFERENT KIND OF WEAPON ON SOMEONE ALREADY.

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Yunglex313
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Personally I think we need to explore other kinds of weapons besides swords. There are too damn many of them.

We have the Rapiers, the twins swords, what Sima Zhao's sword is, the Podao, the Sword and Hook, the conjoined swords, the general sword, THE DAMN GREAT SWORD, ENOUGH SWORDS, PUT A DIFFERENT KIND OF WEAPON ON SOMEONE ALREADY.

Because swords can never be different and absolutely everyone of those plays the same right? And there definitely isn't a diverse variety of other weapons in the game, like several sorts of spears/lances, or ranged weapons, or various weird things like yoyo's or a club...cannon thing with a bayonet on the end. :rolleyes:
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Yunglex313
Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:43 am
Personally I think we need to explore other kinds of weapons besides swords. There are too damn many of them.

We have the Rapiers, the twins swords, what Sima Zhao's sword is, the Podao, the Sword and Hook, the conjoined swords, the general sword, THE DAMN GREAT SWORD, ENOUGH SWORDS, PUT A DIFFERENT KIND OF WEAPON ON SOMEONE ALREADY.

Because swords can never be different and absolutely everyone of those plays the same right? And there definitely isn't a diverse variety of other weapons in the game, like several sorts of spears/lances, or ranged weapons, or various weird things like yoyo's or a club...cannon thing with a bayonet on the end. :rolleyes:
A somewhat sarcastic approach to it but yeah the weapon shape is just that - a shape, it gives no indication to how it will actually be used in the games. Its one thing to say "meh - another set of twin swords" to "holy crap did his shadow just stab someone with one of those swords" on actually seeing it in action.

Koei have been getting increasingly inventive with the movesets, especially for less unique options like polearms and swords so i dont think anyone will really irk when they see any given DLC is a type of weapon weve seen before and weve seen plenty enough swords and ranged weapons yet were all excited to see movesets in action.

Still i want the likes of the Wrecking Ball to be just as it was - a swinging , mean and slow startup/fast attack string moveset. I like some of the older simple movesets the best - i dont need every weapon to create projectiles, do something random or debuff enemies etc. I like what they did with the Short Halberd... they kept it relatively like how you imagine the actual weapon would work but gave it extended charges so it does get OTT in design yet is unique enough to have negated its unwarranted haters who were more than happy to see it dropped from the weapon selections outright when by Empires it still didnt have an assigned character at the time.

People are calling for martial art movesets... perhaps via gauntlets or something to the likes. That could work... no need for insane mechanics, just an honest kick ass moveset without shenanigans. I think after last batch for DW7 DLC slowed time and fire bullets from wands as well as make legacy weapons even more mental with boomerarngs which created ten foot tornadoes from nowhere and buckler blades which erupted the ground on whacking it i want a more back to basics approach to even just one or two of the next batch of DLCs. Screw Crossbow could be what im looking for... or it could be the most insane thing theyve created yet, ill just have to wait and see.
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Yunglex313
Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:43 am
Personally I think we need to explore other kinds of weapons besides swords. There are too damn many of them.

We have the Rapiers, the twins swords, what Sima Zhao's sword is, the Podao, the Sword and Hook, the conjoined swords, the general sword, THE DAMN GREAT SWORD, ENOUGH SWORDS, PUT A DIFFERENT KIND OF WEAPON ON SOMEONE ALREADY.

Because swords can never be different and absolutely everyone of those plays the same right? And there definitely isn't a diverse variety of other weapons in the game, like several sorts of spears/lances, or ranged weapons, or various weird things like yoyo's or a club...cannon thing with a bayonet on the end. :rolleyes:
A somewhat sarcastic approach to it but yeah the weapon shape is just that - a shape, it gives no indication to how it will actually be used in the games. Its one thing to say "meh - another set of twin swords" to "holy crap did his shadow just stab someone with one of those swords" on actually seeing it in action.

Koei have been getting increasingly inventive with the movesets, especially for less unique options like polearms and swords so i dont think anyone will really irk when they see any given DLC is a type of weapon weve seen before and weve seen plenty enough swords and ranged weapons yet were all excited to see movesets in action.

Still i want the likes of the Wrecking Ball to be just as it was - a swinging , mean and slow startup/fast attack string moveset. I like some of the older simple movesets the best - i dont need every weapon to create projectiles, do something random or debuff enemies etc. I like what they did with the Short Halberd... they kept it relatively like how you imagine the actual weapon would work but gave it extended charges so it does get OTT in design yet is unique enough to have negated its unwarranted haters who were more than happy to see it dropped from the weapon selections outright when by Empires it still didnt have an assigned character at the time.

People are calling for martial art movesets... perhaps via gauntlets or something to the likes. That could work... no need for insane mechanics, just an honest kick ass moveset without shenanigans. I think after last batch for DW7 DLC slowed time and fire bullets from wands as well as make legacy weapons even more mental with boomerarngs which created ten foot tornadoes from nowhere and buckler blades which erupted the ground on whacking it i want a more back to basics approach to even just one or two of the next batch of DLCs. Screw Crossbow could be what im looking for... or it could be the most insane thing theyve created yet, ill just have to wait and see.
Aye, suppose I should cut back with the sarcasm a little, but I don't mean any harm by it, just how I talk. ^^; Don't think i've met you, but hey nice to meet another Scot here!

But you're exactly right though, and it's the point I meant to make, the weapons are just a shape, and with Koei bein' so creative lately, they can really make just about anything. Though i'd like to point out, even without those fancy effects, most of the swords we have now would see very different uses.

I can agree with your other points as well, it'd be nice to have some more weapons that are...well just kickass weapons! Cool as it is, note every sword needs to make projectiles like Sima Zhao's. Some of the more basic movesets, are some of my favorites.
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Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:41 am
Yunglex313
Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:43 am
Personally I think we need to explore other kinds of weapons besides swords. There are too damn many of them.

We have the Rapiers, the twins swords, what Sima Zhao's sword is, the Podao, the Sword and Hook, the conjoined swords, the general sword, THE DAMN GREAT SWORD, ENOUGH SWORDS, PUT A DIFFERENT KIND OF WEAPON ON SOMEONE ALREADY.

Because swords can never be different and absolutely everyone of those plays the same right? And there definitely isn't a diverse variety of other weapons in the game, like several sorts of spears/lances, or ranged weapons, or various weird things like yoyo's or a club...cannon thing with a bayonet on the end. :rolleyes:
A somewhat sarcastic approach to it but yeah the weapon shape is just that - a shape, it gives no indication to how it will actually be used in the games. Its one thing to say "meh - another set of twin swords" to "holy crap did his shadow just stab someone with one of those swords" on actually seeing it in action.

Koei have been getting increasingly inventive with the movesets, especially for less unique options like polearms and swords so i dont think anyone will really irk when they see any given DLC is a type of weapon weve seen before and weve seen plenty enough swords and ranged weapons yet were all excited to see movesets in action.

Still i want the likes of the Wrecking Ball to be just as it was - a swinging , mean and slow startup/fast attack string moveset. I like some of the older simple movesets the best - i dont need every weapon to create projectiles, do something random or debuff enemies etc. I like what they did with the Short Halberd... they kept it relatively like how you imagine the actual weapon would work but gave it extended charges so it does get OTT in design yet is unique enough to have negated its unwarranted haters who were more than happy to see it dropped from the weapon selections outright when by Empires it still didnt have an assigned character at the time.

People are calling for martial art movesets... perhaps via gauntlets or something to the likes. That could work... no need for insane mechanics, just an honest kick ass moveset without shenanigans. I think after last batch for DW7 DLC slowed time and fire bullets from wands as well as make legacy weapons even more mental with boomerarngs which created ten foot tornadoes from nowhere and buckler blades which erupted the ground on whacking it i want a more back to basics approach to even just one or two of the next batch of DLCs. Screw Crossbow could be what im looking for... or it could be the most insane thing theyve created yet, ill just have to wait and see.
Woah, hold on, mechanics are what make a game, even if movesets in DW9 were revamped to have more varied attack command strings, I still want more mechanics to add to that. Would be nice to have One Piece's temporary character switch function.
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There are tons of weaponsKoei would bring :

- Tyran sword
- Elder sword (Zhou Yu)
- dragon sword (and its moveset)
- Areus sword
- Cross haleberd (Lu Bu in DW6)
- Double Dao (multiraid 2)
- orb (multiraid 2)
- all DWO new weapons...
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PeJ
Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:50 am
There are tons of weaponsKoei would bring :

- Tyran sword
- Elder sword (Zhou Yu)
- dragon sword (and its moveset)
- Areus sword
- Cross haleberd (Lu Bu in DW6)
- Double Dao (multiraid 2)
- orb (multiraid 2)
- all DWO new weapons...
No Twin Fans??
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I personally want Sun Quan's DW6 sword to return. Man, that's the most beautiful sword I've ever seen. :wub:

Also, I'm quite surprised Koei haven't made a Trident yet. I think it would be cool if a Trident that can hold elemental features be made as a DLC.
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Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:00 am
I personally want Sun Quan's DW6 sword to return. Man, that's the most beautiful sword I've ever seen. :wub:

Also, I'm quite surprised Koei haven't made a Trident yet. I think it would be cool if a Trident that can hold elemental features be made as a DLC.
I've never thought about a trident but because of my mega fan boyyyyyyyingerrrrr of the last airbender, I have always wanted elemental magical movesets....especially water :cool:

Trident would be awesome!
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There are a lot of old weapons that could be brought back as DLC, enough of them to be fair that Koei could technically get away without bringing new weapons out. Obviously I dont want just old weapons, I want Koei to use their imaginations and bring us something amazing and unforgettable, but I wont get my hopes up aha.

Hopefully next week we will get a glimpse of this new Bow weapon, then we can finally put our different ideas about it aside, then speculate about what will be our next DLC weapons.
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I was watching Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon last week and that green dragon sword looks amazing, the way Chow Yun Fat used it is just awesome. Hopefully we get a moveset something similar, like Zhou Yu's DW4 weapon, just basically tweak it!

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Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:19 am
PeJ
Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:50 am
There are tons of weaponsKoei would bring :

- Tyran sword
- Elder sword (Zhou Yu)
- dragon sword (and its moveset)
- Areus sword
- Cross haleberd (Lu Bu in DW6)
- Double Dao (multiraid 2)
- orb (multiraid 2)
- all DWO new weapons...
No Twin Fans??
I don't know how was twin fan moveset but, Xiao Qiao moveset need to be tweak because it's very weak in fact ^^ :(
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Seeing as how there most likely won't be a Warriors of Troy 2, Koei should salvage some of the move sets and weapons from that game.

Archilles's moves translated well in Orochi 3 (loved his C5 where he flips them over with his shield before a gut stab on the floor).
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PeJ
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:57 pm
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PeJ
Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:50 am
There are tons of weaponsKoei would bring :

- Tyran sword
- Elder sword (Zhou Yu)
- dragon sword (and its moveset)
- Areus sword
- Cross haleberd (Lu Bu in DW6)
- Double Dao (multiraid 2)
- orb (multiraid 2)
- all DWO new weapons...
No Twin Fans??
I don't know how was twin fan moveset but, Xiao Qiao moveset need to be tweak because it's very weak in fact ^^ :(
I dont noe why but Twin fan is the powerful weapon for me not for other but me but i think it better than 1 -_-
I want her Twin Fan is moveset is good and if possible i dont mind XiaoQiao reusing the 1 fan musou its like lian shi
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PeJ
Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:50 am
There are tons of weaponsKoei would bring :

- Tyran sword
- Elder sword (Zhou Yu)
- dragon sword (and its moveset)
- Areus sword
- Cross haleberd (Lu Bu in DW6)
- Double Dao (multiraid 2)
- orb (multiraid 2)
- all DWO new weapons...


I'm adverse to swords because there are so many in use. Even if its a new move set, it's still a damn sword, yet there are so many other different weapons they could use that could better fit characters, like Gan Ning's twin Knife set from DW6, I personally don't classify Knives and Swords so before someone calls me out on that, they could very well suit someone who was good for assassination, or something, else, since Ninjas didn't exist in 3 kingdoms China.

To tell the truth though, unless he historically used a spear or something, Cao Pi's DW6 sword could fit him well.

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Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:00 am
I personally want Sun Quan's DW6 sword to return. Man, that's the most beautiful sword I've ever seen. :wub:

Also, I'm quite surprised Koei haven't made a Trident yet. I think it would be cool if a Trident that can hold elemental features be made as a DLC.


Jiang Wei's new weapon is double edged Trident. It's not the traditional one but it's there.
PeJ
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:57 pm
Shōkyō
Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:19 am
PeJ
Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:50 am
There are tons of weaponsKoei would bring :

- Tyran sword
- Elder sword (Zhou Yu)
- dragon sword (and its moveset)
- Areus sword
- Cross haleberd (Lu Bu in DW6)
- Double Dao (multiraid 2)
- orb (multiraid 2)
- all DWO new weapons...
No Twin Fans??
I don't know how was twin fan moveset but, Xiao Qiao moveset need to be tweak because it's very weak in fact ^^ :(
It's weak but it's Fast and it honestly doesn't look as weak as you say...in fact, Xiao Qiao's a beast now.
Edited by Yunglex313, Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:16 pm.
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I really don't think Xiaoqiao should get the twin fans back, she's pretty handy with just the one. I wouldn't be opposed to the twin fans returning, but they should go to a new character. Whoever the next female character is, or even a male character if he's elegant enough, the moveset can resemble a dance or sorts and be acrobatic and theatrical, rather than the more brash "just wave em like you don't care" style the Qiaos have had in the past.
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Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:00 am
I personally want Sun Quan's DW6 sword to return. Man, that's the most beautiful sword I've ever seen. :wub:

Also, I'm quite surprised Koei haven't made a Trident yet. I think it would be cool if a Trident that can hold elemental features be made as a DLC.

Jiang Wei's new weapon is double edged Trident. It's not the traditional one but it's there.
Right... though it didn't look to 'trident-ish' to me. Then again, they can still make a traditional one. :whistle:
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I'd be pretty okay with a trident as a weapon, and not Jiang Wei's twisted version of a trident or a spear trident he had before, but a legitimate trident, probably complete with water and electric charge attacks. LIKE AQUAMAN!

Preferably someone from Wu, given their association with navy and water.
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Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:28 pm
Preferably someone from Wu, given their association with navy and water.
I smell a "Serpent Spear Trident" weapon for someone.

But I don't think Cheng Pu's related to the navy as well as others.
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Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:28 pm
I'd be pretty okay with a trident as a weapon, and not Jiang Wei's twisted version of a trident or a spear trident he had before, but a legitimate trident, probably complete with water and electric charge attacks. LIKE AQUAMAN!

Preferably someone from Wu, given their association with navy and water.
Wu has water and fire? MAKE UP DAMN MINDS!

Meanwhile Wei majority Ice...actually the Cao family is ice, everyone is whatever.

Meanwhile Shu is Wind and Lightning.
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The Sun family has always been associated with Fire, but the kingdom is known for its powerful navy (which defeated Cao Cao at Chibi, as you know).

Also, wasn't Cheng Pu second in command at Chibi, under Zhou Yu? Giving him a trident would make sense to me. serpent trident thing...whatever, fine by me.
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Well i see nothing wrong with more Swords so long as they give then different designs and move sets, the Blaze Blade looks really good design wise and i can't wait to see how it handles, with old Swords there is only 3 that should really come back Zhou Yu's pre DW6 sword, Dong Zhuo's Pre DW6 Sword and Sun Quan's DW6 Sword, now for Spears it's much harder to make them look different through and through the Spear idea i have for Cheng Pu is a slightly larger Spear than normal with a Huge Serpent Coiled around the length of the handle.

I would like to see a mix on DLC weapons with Half being returning weapons and the other Half being brand new weapons if the Screw Crossbow is Yue Ying's DW6E weapon then i hope the next 2 will be 2 new weapons and the last 2 being a mix of new and old weapons (that's assuming we will have more than 2 weapons) the returning weapons should be the Twin Fans or Wrecking Ball, the Stone Pillar there is no point in bringing it back as there is nobody who it will fit if it's given an EX user, the only person who i think the Stone Pillar would fit is King Wutugu because he was depicted as HUGE, I know people will say "No the Nanman don't need anyone else" but if King Wutugu isn't added then the Stone Pillar can be scrapped all together and never to return.

That's my thoughts anyway
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Silver Lion
Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:00 am
I personally want Sun Quan's DW6 sword to return. Man, that's the most beautiful sword I've ever seen. :wub:

Also, I'm quite surprised Koei haven't made a Trident yet. I think it would be cool if a Trident that can hold elemental features be made as a DLC.

Jiang Wei's new weapon is double edged Trident. It's not the traditional one but it's there.
Right... though it didn't look to 'trident-ish' to me. Then again, they can still make a traditional one. :whistle:
The lack of identification knowledge in this forum astounds me.

Jiang's Wei spear isn't a trident or even a spear really. Look at how it's constructed and it's quite clearly a variation of a halberd.
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Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:18 pm
I really don't think Xiaoqiao should get the twin fans back, she's pretty handy with just the one. I wouldn't be opposed to the twin fans returning, but they should go to a new character. Whoever the next female character is, or even a male character if he's elegant enough, the moveset can resemble a dance or sorts and be acrobatic and theatrical, rather than the more brash "just wave em like you don't care" style the Qiaos have had in the past.
But i prefer it in Xiao Qiao thats her Old weapon and why give others for and that represent Xiao Qiao for me
i dont noe why some people want to give to others or new chracter i just want Twin Fan for her the other can have :mellow: the iron Fan
Twin Fan Symbolize Xiao Qiao for me -.-
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