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Dynasty Warriors 8 + XL DLC; DLC is Downloadable Content
Topic Started: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:21 am (358,586 Views)
Ixbran
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even so the idea of changing her weapon again would just seem rather off, shes already unique so theres no point to change her weapon, and the Iron Fan fits her fine now.

Its faster, great range, and its C6 is Xiaoqiaos C6 from WO3. Not to mention the animations she uses for her attacks all use only one fan anyway. it would be odd giving her twin fans if only for the fact shed only ever use just one for her musou attacks. That or they would have to change the attacks to something else involving both fans, which would end up scraping the attacks she does have.

I say have her keep the iron fan since it now fits her. Give the twin fans, should they ever come back, to someone else.
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I'm against Xiao Qiao getting the twin fans only if KOEI plans on giving them to someone else. If they do ever come back I'm hoping they will be given to a different female that can wield them in a much more mature manner. I won't be annoyed if she gets them, KOEI is more then welcome to give her them, but if KOEI said "Xiao Qiao or new character?" I'm all for new character, aslong as this "new" character doesn't wield them the same as she would have. (Though saying all this the iron fan minus the R1 and jump musou isn't childish at all.....eh, i don't know)
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It depends on which character though. I was originally planning to have it to Chen Gong as a twin fan users, but then again, we can give it to someone else later on. We just have to find out...
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Xiaoqiao's first musou and second musou could easily be pulled off with two fans. Especially her first musou. It's really just ROFLcoptering up. And her air musou...well, Shangxiang pulls a bow out of nowhere, Xiaoqiao can drop one fan for a little while and pick it back up later...

Only thing that'll need to change is her moveset.

That said, I agree with Strikerdes, and have said before, I would rather the twin fans just go to another character who can use them in a far more interesting way than the brash, flail about way Xiaoqiao always has. Like Kitana from Mortal Kombat.

I just think some people are just dead set on visualizing the twin fans in a certain way. Similar to how it was so difficult to imagine Sima Yi with anything other than the fan or wire claws, because that is all he had ever had up until DW8. Imagining the wire claws on Chunhua was a little difficult for some people because they kept imagining Sima Yi's moveset. But lo and behold, both worked out wonderfully.

Rather they go to a new character rather than give them to Xiaoqiao so "both sisters can have dual weapons" <_< as if thats some kind of bond they share....
Edited by Mr. Kamikaze, Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:48 am.
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Ixbran
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i dont care what they do with the twin fans as long as they come back

instead of it being a dancer style, why not be martial arts esq with status effect magic. Remember how in DW6E you could lower enemies attack power, speed or defense? the flute's C1 already lowers character speed, so like that.

what if the twin fans were martial arts style move set, and its charge attacks inflicted attack, defense or speed down status effects. Bring back the iron fans old grapple C6 and put it to the twin fans, and have it lower enemy defenses. Maybe an attack that creates a small flaming explosion that lowers enemy attack and defense stats, stuff like that.
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Ixbran
Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:58 am
i dont care what they do with the twin fans as long as they come back

instead of it being a dancer style, why not be martial arts esq with status effect magic. Remember how in DW6E you could lower enemies attack power, speed or defense? the flute's C1 already lowers character speed, so like that.

what if the twin fans were martial arts style move set, and its charge attacks inflicted attack, defense or speed down status effects. Bring back the iron fans old grapple C6 and put it to the twin fans, and have it lower enemy defenses. Maybe an attack that creates a small flaming explosion that lowers enemy attack and defense stats, stuff like that.
But still i wish she can have the twin fans xD

Im just want it!! Iron Fan for other i know her new weapon is better but we can add that
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Kitana-like fans are ideal. Especially if they can be also be used as knives.
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:24 am
Ixbran
Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:58 am
i dont care what they do with the twin fans as long as they come back

instead of it being a dancer style, why not be martial arts esq with status effect magic. Remember how in DW6E you could lower enemies attack power, speed or defense? the flute's C1 already lowers character speed, so like that.

what if the twin fans were martial arts style move set, and its charge attacks inflicted attack, defense or speed down status effects. Bring back the iron fans old grapple C6 and put it to the twin fans, and have it lower enemy defenses. Maybe an attack that creates a small flaming explosion that lowers enemy attack and defense stats, stuff like that.
But still i wish she can have the twin fans xD

Im just want it!! Iron Fan for other i know her new weapon is better but we can add that
Well you can have it as a secondary weapon thanks to the double weapon system, but the only problem is the moveset. we don't know if it will appear as a male moveset or a female moveset.
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http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/smusou7/dlc/

We can seethe new weapon :D

I hope Koei will change musou cutscene. Because ... each time I launch a musou, I see the character with this ex weapon 3 dots.
So, now Quan has a new EX weapon, I hope they will change that.
Edited by PeJ, Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:37 am.
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PeJ
Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:14 am
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/smusou7/dlc/

We can seethe new weapon :D

I hope Koei will change musou cutscene. Because ... each time I launch a musou, I see the character with this ex weapon 3 dots.
So, now Quan has a new EX weapon, I hope they will change that.
You're a bit late to the party.
We are speaking about this sword for almost a week.

The "musou cutscene", as you call it, had the same issue in DW7.
It seems they are having issues fixing it...

And no, Sun Quan doesn't have a new EX weapon.
His EX weapon will probably stay the good old Dao sword.
At least...until DW8Empire release, since DW7Empires decloned a lot of characters using the DLC weapons (Cao Ren, Huang Gai, Sima Shi, Da Qiao, Zhurong, Ding Feng, Yueying, Pang De, Xu Huang, Dong Zhuo)
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"It seems they are having issues fixing it..."
What do u mean about this ?

So, following you, Sun Quan Musou will stay with the Dao :(
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garnix
Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:11 pm
PeJ
Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:14 am
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/smusou7/dlc/

We can seethe new weapon :D

I hope Koei will change musou cutscene. Because ... each time I launch a musou, I see the character with this ex weapon 3 dots.
So, now Quan has a new EX weapon, I hope they will change that.
You're a bit late to the party.
We are speaking about this sword for almost a week.

The "musou cutscene", as you call it, had the same issue in DW7.
It seems they are having issues fixing it...

And no, Sun Quan doesn't have a new EX weapon.
His EX weapon will probably stay the good old Dao sword.
At least...until DW8Empire release, since DW7Empires decloned a lot of characters using the DLC weapons (Cao Ren, Huang Gai, Sima Shi, Da Qiao, Zhurong, Ding Feng, Yueying, Pang De, Xu Huang, Dong Zhuo)
What I'm guessing in Empires (don't worry people, its a theory), the dlc weapons is used to declone most of the characters that are generics, correct? If so then Sun Quan, Guan Ping, Ma Chao, Xu Zhu, Xiao Qiao, Zhang Jiao, Wang Yuanji, and Zuo Ci are the clones that share with them.

So the flame sword might go to Sun Quan
So the screw cross bow (or crossblade if people perfer it) to New Character, etc.

Everything is a theory so no need to be offensive.



Shokyo: It depends though since people like twin fans and some might not. I'm used to Xiao with twin fans, so I'm of those who want twin fans back to her.
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:38 pm
garnix
Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:11 pm
PeJ
Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:14 am
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/smusou7/dlc/

We can seethe new weapon :D

I hope Koei will change musou cutscene. Because ... each time I launch a musou, I see the character with this ex weapon 3 dots.
So, now Quan has a new EX weapon, I hope they will change that.
You're a bit late to the party.
We are speaking about this sword for almost a week.

The "musou cutscene", as you call it, had the same issue in DW7.
It seems they are having issues fixing it...

And no, Sun Quan doesn't have a new EX weapon.
His EX weapon will probably stay the good old Dao sword.
At least...until DW8Empire release, since DW7Empires decloned a lot of characters using the DLC weapons (Cao Ren, Huang Gai, Sima Shi, Da Qiao, Zhurong, Ding Feng, Yueying, Pang De, Xu Huang, Dong Zhuo)
What I'm guessing in Empires (don't worry people, its a theory), the dlc weapons is used to declone most of the characters that are generics, correct? If so then Sun Quan, Guan Ping, Ma Chao, Xu Zhu, Xiao Qiao, Zhang Jiao, Wang Yuanji, and Zuo Ci are the clones that share with them.

So the flame sword might go to Sun Quan
So the screw cross bow (or crossblade if people perfer it) to New Character, etc.

Everything is a theory so no need to be offensive.



Shokyo: It depends though since people like twin fans and some might not. I'm used to Xiao with twin fans, so I'm of those who want twin fans back to her.
It's more likely they won't. Some of them just don't need decloning. And Zuo Ci doesn't count as Koei just said screw it, since Yu Ji's Taoist, give him the Taoist's Moveset, and I've never seen Zhang Jiao with a clone, unless you mean his sorcerer brothers, which are in the same vein as Zuo Ci.

Just because generics are also using their weapon doesn't mean they need to change. It would be nice if the Uniques had unique charge attacks, but it's not necessary. I'd love for Ma Chao to get a new spear move set, but it's not guaranteed to happen. I just hope they don't go the same route they did with Zhao Yun, acrobatic, stylish and agile. Ma Chao should be more grounded as opposed Zhao Yun flying all over the place.

Wang Yuanji's weapon is still fairly new, and the moveset doesn't need updating either, plus throwing knives are a bit of a trademark for her now, just like the Club, the Iron Fan and the Greatsword are trademarks for Xu Chu, Xiao Qiao, and Guan Ping. Also consider that most of characters who were given DLC weapons, were given a weapon that once their trademark.
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I thought they had taken care of the weapons debacle... but hey... lets rehash the old debate again... LOL... Im curious to see the new cross bow... maybe get rid of the crappy one that Lian Shi is stuck with...

UGH why cant July be here already!!!
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@Sun Baekho

"What I'm guessing in Empires (don't worry people, its a theory), the dlc weapons is used to declone most of the characters that are generics, correct? If so then Sun Quan, Guan Ping, Ma Chao, Xu Zhu, Xiao Qiao, Zhang Jiao, Wang Yuanji, and Zuo Ci are the clones that share with them.

So the flame sword might go to Sun Quan
So the screw cross bow (or crossblade if people perfer it) to New Character, etc."

Almost right ...

But you forget that everyone in DW8 is decloned now.

So what's up with the future DLC weapons

Flame blade sword will go to Sun Quan => Dao is reaffected to another character (Chen Gong )

Screw crossbow should go to Yuying but Yuying get already a decloned weapon.
So, I suppose Yuying current weapon will go to anther character ...

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Heh...Chen Gong gets the dao. That'd be....hilarious. Unfortunate, but hilarious. :XD
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Sun Quan will stay with the Dao throughout this game, I doubt Koei would go to the trouble to change his weapon in the main game, especially via DLC.

It may become his Ex in XL, but I doubt it again since both 8 & 8XL (if anything like the 7 era) will both be supported by the same DLC.

The soonest possible time Quan would get that as an Ex weapon (if it were happening obviously) then it would be 8Empires, as it was done the same way in the 7 era.
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:47 pm
Sun Quan will stay with the Dao throughout this game, I doubt Koei would go to the trouble to change his weapon in the main game, especially via DLC.

It may become his Ex in XL, but I doubt it again since both 8 & 8XL (if anything like the 7 era) will both be supported by the same DLC.

The soonest possible time Quan would get that as an Ex weapon (if it were happening obviously) then it would be 8Empires, as it was done the same way in the 7 era.
You're right! They did the same exact thing with the DLC in 7 with the old and new weapons... Boomerrang etc... so maybe getting rid of generics or just switching it up post game is a possiblity
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It is a possibility, since its been done before in the previous era, but we just dont know if they will take this route again. Koei could even leave these DLC weapons to give to newbies in DW9, just like Hang Dang was given a DLC weapon too.

Im hoping Koei do the 50/50 split with old weapons and new weapons as DLC, interesting to see what they come up with.
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In DW8E it's highly possible.
Because SUn Quan recovers his flame sword from DW5 ...
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Everything is a theory so no need to be offensive.
In what part of that post (you quoted) was he offensive?

Good lord.
Edited by FKA, Wed May 1, 2013 6:33 am.
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Everything is a theory so no need to be offensive.
In what part of that post (you quoted) was he offensive?

Good lord.
I think he meant that in general, and not directed to anybody. That's at least what i'm getting from his "don't worry people, it's a theory". The subject can become a bit touchy, so he took that precaution ;) .
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【鈴木P】たくさん質問頂いてます「5」衣装などのDLC配信についてですが、現在配信準備を進めています。詳細は続報をお待ち下さい。#smusou7

I think it means they plan on releasing DW6 costumes.
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Sun Baekho
Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:38 pm

Everything is a theory so no need to be offensive.
In what part of that post (you quoted) was he offensive?

Good lord.
I think he meant that in general, and not directed to anybody. That's at least what i'm getting from his "don't worry people, it's a theory". The subject can become a bit touchy, so he took that precaution ;) .
LOL.

Well I think everyone made it known how they feel about using the 'cloned with generics' excuse, so there's little to no reason to create any more debates because of it.

I still think that excuse is stupid tho. <_<

There are better arguments to be used in favour of changing a character's current Ex weapon, but I digress.

I hope the DW6 costumes will be free for the western fanbase... I'd be pissed if we had to pay for those costumes twice. :nope:
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YAAAAY!

DW6 has some of my most favorite designs for most characters, like Xiaoqiao, Zhenji, Zhang He, Meng Huo and Xiahou Yuan(Dat Belly).

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So this is Uber excitement!
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